966 responses to “Xianyun”

1. Out of curiosity, I have a question for those who think she’s disappointing, ‘Mid’ or what have you. I don’t intend for this to sound patronizing as I have my own concerns and gripes about her kit, so apologies if it comes across that way.

   If you were given the reigns on designing or buffing her current kit, what would you do and/or change to make her meet your expectations?

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   • Teamwide heal and CC same as Kazuha. That’s it. Simple asf but they decide to make her a lament buffslave
     It’s 4.4 already and we still didnt get any grouping beside Kazuha.
     And no, Venti is ass so dont argue.

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     • Sounds like you want another VV bot Kazuha 2.0. Also, Venti isn’t even bad despite the nerfs so stfu

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     • Imagine getting so triggered just because CR didn’t become another Kazuha. You Kazuha fanboys are downright irritating lmao

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     • Also, I find it funny that you’re living in your delusions about what HYV should or should not make. Just die already, moron. It’s better that way for a self-entitled man-child such as yourself.

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     • Err.. Sucrose exists lad. As does Faruzan in anemo comps. Heizou also has CC on his burst lol. Now sure, they aren’t as good as the homeless bum, but they exist. Let’s not lie.

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   • She probably one of the character that you’ll regret pulling for now but happy you have her, in the future, the same situation with kokomi

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     • I didn’t even think kokomi is bad when pulling for her, since i think with my reproductive part.

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       • Furina buffs BETTER??
         Furina is unsustainy: no particles, high cost, high gear req.
         Furina is incomplete: no healing or no damage, just useless one without being jean’s slave because her kit is just inconsistent and unpractical.
         Furina is NOT as good as she seems: 75% dmg increase for all team? thats awesome!!!! but half of your team are just healers or buffers and battery because furina cant work by herself. 75% STACKED UP meanwhile kaedehara kazuha just throws 40% bonus dmg pressing a button, yelan gives 50% bonus dmg just doing tons of dmg without consuming your HP.
         im not saying furina isnt worth or she’s useless but her BADLY designed kit cant be forgot just because she buffs the most pathetic main DPS (faruzan locked), a nuker that doesnt need her (because she runs pyo resonance) and the mondstadt physical duo.

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     • only if you like plunge attack that much…

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   • Remove plunge buff from A4 and make it part of her base burst.
     Give her VV level shred as her A4 to free her from VV.
     Allow her to use her skill in the air.
     Buff her CC and also make it part of her base skill.
     Give her CC on coordinated atk similar to C6 Faruzan.
     Reduce burst cost.
     In her current role, not much else I can think of outside of ‘Hurr Durr buff the numbers’.

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2. Maybe I didnt get it, but why is her burst so important? tecnically, her buff is given by her passive, so her talents are just extra dmg and healing
   if you’re fine with healing you can use your burst every other rotation in some circumstances
   to me just stack atk; if you have ER is good ofc, if you don’t, burst every other rotation as said and that’s it

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   • The passive buff requires her burst to create Starwicker and for Starwicker to have “jump charges” remaining, meaning ER investment is mandatory to keep Starwicker out. And even then you will have 2s of downtime minimum.

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   • I think people have simply been spoiled by the rest of version 4. In principle I agree with you, but I have Jean C4 and to me, the vast utility she provides far out weighs what Cloud Retainer brings right now. I’m going to wait and see how she changes though before I make any judgement on her kit.

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3. The fact that she can’t use her skill mid-air is absolutely ridiculous.
   I’m not expecting major changes to her but that one, yes, it should be changed.

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   • Scara can’t fly in mid air. Don’t expect them to do any changes like that. They haven’t allowed us to use skills in the air since Kazuha, unless I’m forgetting someone.

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     • Xiao’s E can let him dash through the air while airborne.

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       • Xiao released before Kazuha…

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       • Xiao came before Kazuha
         Also Scara not being able to skill midair is always annoying cause I try to jump into his skill

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         • Glad(?) to see I’m not the only one who does that lmao. It just feels wrong not being able to jump into flight mode.

         • Yeah it’s sucks that HYV hasn’t implemented that on later Anemo 5* characters that would prefer it

   • Skyladder
     Xianyun will temporarily ascend forward and into the air, dealing Anemo DMG to targets in her path.
     Can be used while in mid-air. The leap distance increases when used from the ground.
     The same opponent can be damaged a maximum of once per Cloud Transmogrification state.
     Can be used while in mid-air Can be used while in mid-air Can be used while in mid-air

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4. “Each Plunging Attack shockwave DMG instance can only apply this increased DMG effect to a single opponent.”
   This line by itself ruins the kit. What kind of shock wave hits only one target?
   They need to get rid of whatever idiot came up with this and also the recent healing set.

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   • If there’s multiple enemies, the shockwave only hits ONCE per enemy (even if one could use the skill thrice)

     totally balanced as all things should be

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   • It is one shockwave damage per enemy ー you could damage multiple enemies, but the skill only hits them once despite being three usages on the skill.

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5. I think i get it.

   She is a main dps like the fontaine character roster with the HP mechanic but only heals no drains. She is designed to work with furina and the fontaine artifacts.

   She isn’t really a plunge-attack enabler support.
   If we assume her as a support on characters other than Xiao/Gaming, that’s when she feels wrong. She is just a plunge-attack main dps who buffs plunge-attack dedicated characters and shares some fontaine mechanics. Out of that niche, she is not worth it over Jean.

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   • Interesting idea but then I don’t see why her ascension and weapon give atk and not crit if she’s meant to be a main dps.

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     • No matter which way you go, her intended role as a main dps or the “plunge-attack enabler” role, both will feel trash.

       So they sell you the solution, this is a business you know.

       For her intended role, you go constellations.

       For her support role, you go weapon and refinements.

       It’s hard to notice since they try so hard to hide it with all those paragraphs but you get the idea.

       In my opinion she’s a niche unit so it is not worth it. Only a few characters that they release feels complete at base. Archons and fatuis for example. Roll only for them, the waifu aspect is something else apart from gameplay feel and meta.

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       • They corrected her kit and weapon, now she should feel better as a main dps

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6. Her kit in c0 is pretty weak, in terms of buffing character plunge dmg, she only buff her ult damage at her A4. However, you need C2 to buff all party members’ plunge dmg. Her ascension kinda useless, A2 only give her CC, A4 buff herself dmg.

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   • ‘Nearby active characters’ Plunging Attack shockwave DMG will be increased by 170% of Xianyun’s ATK.’

     Nearby active characters. She does buff the teams plunge dmg, just only for active characters. Think of it like Bennetts buff.

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7. Throughout the Fontaine (Version 4.X) cycle it seems that Mihoyo is focus on expanding meta by introducing new playstyles or expanding upon lesser used ones, and that seems to be Xianyun role, in terms of enabling and buffing plunging attacks.

   Outside of that, Xianyun is basically a side grade of Jean as an anemo healer, which isn’t a bad thing as players who have not gotten Jean on standard or a 50/50 loss can just go for Xianyun instead.

   I don’t think Xianyun is going to be buffed in any significant way because I think Mihoyo is trying to avoid powercreep among their 5* units, particularly if they have similar roles. The only exceptions to this are the Archons for obvious story reasons.

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   • But they aren’t avoiding powercreep. Most of the version 4 5 stars have powercrept other 5 star (except Wrio lmao) units, it’s just that a lot of them weren’t and aren’t meta.
     The simple problem is that some version 1 (Most notably, a certain five 4* units and a certain homeless bum who power crept the damn archon) units are far too strong that newer units simply can’t compete with them without selling a kidney or three. I’m not passing judgement either way, it’s just a simple fact. For example, how long are we going to have to wait for a dedicated Pyro buffer because of Bennett? Or another strong off field Pyro DPS that’s a viable alternative to Xiangling?

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8. Trying to resist the urge to use Memory of Dust on her as a DPS. Add Mona + Layla call that a Shooting/Falling Star team

   I could try to pull Xiao/Wanderer like a sane person… But since when have I been sane?

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9. Male support Kazuha (a iron sting) >>>>>>>>>>>>> cloud retard (event weapon locked), midrina (event weapon locked)
   Male dps Neuvi (C0) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who tao (C1 locked), kamishito assyaka (shenhe locked), raiden shitgun (C2 locked)
   what did Mihoyo mean by these?

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   • Were people seriously expecting her to be anywhere near Kazuhas power? Until the changes happen in a few weeks, I’m going to delay judgement on her.

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     • Her role is far different from Kazuha despite the power differences. I don’t even see a reason to even compare the two characters. Maybe it’s just the Kazuha stans being loud and obnoxious as always just like the OP you replied to

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       • Do you have something against Kazuha?
         You seem to reaaaslly hate people who like him

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         • You can’t deny kazuha stans are either kids or manchild

   • That’s great. Anything else new you can come up with?

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   • Well iton sting is worse than fav on Kazuha and Furina is anything but weapon locked (has 2 totally free options)

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     • 2 worse options*
       When a limited weapon being better than her freaking sig is considered event weapon locked.

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   • >Kazuha better than Furina.
     I’m sure Navia really enjoys running a Kazuha, same with Eula and Scara lol. Someone who only buffs four elements (Up to two at a time) is better than someone who buffs everything better than he can? No wonder so many people want him nerfed out of spite because of his obnoxious fans.

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     • >only buffs four elements
       I’m sure running Noobvia, Eulose, Scaramid are better than Wrio, Neuvi, Childe, Ayaka, Lyney who all needs the goat Kazuha.
       >Midrina buffs everything better than Kazuha
       by require a dps loss healer with no grouping, good luck.
       >>>Kazuha better than Furina.

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       • >by require a dps loss healer
         Be like the rest of scrubs on this site and run her with Bennett then. Guess what, Trashly, Scrubby and Childish all need Bennett anyways to even hit single digit dmg.
         >with no grouping, good luck
         Imagine doing no extra damage with a Furina buff that you need grouping and then calling her bad LMAO.
         Get rekt scrub. Face it, Kazuha is the single most overrated character in the game lmao. No my mistake, he’s second. I forgot about Bennett again.
         I hope Kazuha gets a hefty nerf just to spite you homeless simps.

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   • All that and the males will never make them more money than the female characters.

     And you forgot to mention Cyno the useless twink cosplaying Anubis whose whole thing is hyperbloom yet Shinobu, a 4 star, destroys him.

     Wriothesley who’s boring as hell and outdone by most teams.

     I don’t even know what Lyney’s ugly ass is like because nobody talks about him or uses him.

     Kamidsato Ayato who serves as nothing but a hydro applier and can be replaced by anyone.

     Shitto who got ended by Navia.

     Also, no amount of dick sucking changes the fact that characters like Yelan, Furina and Raiden are better characters than selfish male main DPS #53.

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10. I’m feeling confused right now… I like the design, but I’m not a design-only player, I like the characters to be useful. And with this Kit, that will not be the case, since I do not play Xiao, nor am I interested in playing Gaming, I wanted it to at least be better than Jean in terms of Healing and the anemo application for pull for her, but comparing them, her healing is actually not so good than Jean, and the CC doesn’t seem very good.

    It’s a bit disappointing that he has so little use for a promotional healer/sub dps. Not even Shenhe is that restrictive.

    I really hope a buff or something

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    • Xianyun’s kit does have usefulness. There are several other characters that could use the plunge attack ability- Chongyun, C6 Bennett, Diluc, Raiden Shogun, and even Candace or Dehya. At the very least, she compresses VV and healer into one kit while having pretty good CC but in a roundabout method.

      I think what just needs to be done is for her Skill to be more fluid and a way for auto target to be manual. So rather than triple tapping Skill, she automatically jumps to the 2nd and 3rd Skyladder stage if skill is still being held. This and probably enabling movement speed on jumping and plunge attacking would be what is needed.

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