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1. well her multipliers are extremely good, even for a “normal” build with full em
   ofc you have to consider enemies’ def but “185.76% ATK + 371.52% Elemental Mastery” at lev 10, even with a trash build you are around 10K non crit
   with a f2p build to me she’ll be at least like albedo with her skill dmg, but with the “Little difference” that her element reacts with others (plus EM passive reaction damage, ofc)

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   • I ran calculations with my 811em (973em with burst), 50%(75% with the passive) crit rate, 145% crit damage em/dendro%/crit rate% gilded 4pc build.
     It does around 13.2k crit on level 10 talent. This is build is by no means trash and it’s non crit damage is only around 5.3k.
     For comparison, raw damage is around 16.4k crit with the same build and signature weapon at c0r1.

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     • You forget the attack also

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       • And bonus damage LOL

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   • c0 albedo with BiS sword & Arti can 28k E, no reaction,

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2. The waifu comments on this page have made me realise that the pedo jokes about some of the Genshin community are true. I’m surprised they haven’t been taken down yet.

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   • I don’t know about those weird conversations, but with conversations like this, there’s a lot of idiotic things that should simply be taken down here: https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/nahida_073/?lang=EN#comment-9249

     This place provides so much pragmatic data, yet the comment section is filled with people whining, bickering, and harassing others.

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     • cringe, so much pragmatic data but he decides to whine about people whining rather than actually contribute something

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       • There are posts here discussing Nahida’s kit and I’ve been participating in those discussions. I wouldn’t expect you to know that. You, on the other hand, haven’t even addressed the OP’s post. You’re only commenting to try and start a fight with me specifically.

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   • Yeh. Pedo is when you like a drawing. Can u prove that if you are a lolicon, you are or you can become a ped0? no? well, shut up and stop slandering someone who has never hurt someone.

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     • L0licons can 100% become pedos. Have you never heard of the case of the man in Japan who got addicted to l0li p0rn and kidnapped, r@ped, and killed children? That shit is disgusting and there’s no defense. Even if you aren’t committing a crime, you should be ashamed of yourself for liking fictional children, I mean, how low can you get? Like seriously, society should be rid of weirdos who are actually into shit like that.

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       • L0licons become pedos just as much as normal people become killers, and just as much as normal people rape other normal people. This is the same type of logic that if you watch porn(even milf porn), you will want to rape other people as well. Or that if you play video games with violence you will want to kill/injure other people. This just makes no sense dude.
         “you should be ashamed of yourself for x” – and you should be ashamed of yourself for having any desire then lol. You should be ashamed of liking opposite sex – you may rape them someday you know. You should be ashamed if you want to eat food – you may steal other people’s food someday you know.
         Do you understand how ridiculous this sounds?
         Now lastly, “you should be ashamed of yourself” for being this stupid lol. You, and other people who have something against people for their tastes/views/interests are generally much bigger trash of the society. I would rather “society get rid” of such people like you, than people who “like weird stuff” and do no harm to other people.

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         • Not the same person as “Disgusting”, but you’re completely wrong. No way on earth you actually compared liking the same sex as liking a fictional child. It’s 100% weird since the depiction of children on media are likely completely unable to consent and resemble people unable to consent, and yes, people who like fictional children are more likely to be a pedophile. It’s simple logic. You are already a bit far gone if you see a fictional CHILD and have desire for it. And they are right, society doesn’t need weirdos like you. ? I’d MUCH rather have someone who’s judge mental on what people like than a lolicon in my neighborhood.

       • Also, Nice Logic Bro…you DO know the word loli has origins of a book that’s about being attracted to girls who are not of legal age yet/children? The word itself has pedophilic meaning behind it! While you aren’t hurting REAL children, you cannot deny that it’s understandable to find lol icons disgusting, and not want them near real children? Oh and yeah, judging and calling people weirdos for this is way better than being a lolicon ?

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   • Ok bigot

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     • So, bigotry is when you think taking advantage of children for your own pleasure is gross? Don’t use words if you don’t know the meaning of them. Maybe if you had a stronger vocabulary and were a lot less like this, maybe you wouldn’t need to trick young innocent girls because women (YOUR AGE) would actually WANT to be around you. How many 11 year olds have you groomed online? Get a job, get offline, go to the gym, READ A BOOK AND STOP MISUSING RANDOM WORDS YOU HEARD ONLINE. It’s obvious Hoyoverse targets nasty lolicons. And if they actually do, they have most definitely reached the target audience. Don’t act shocked if you are ridiculed online for this shit. Get help

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3. So currently there are two theories about the C1.

   – Theory A: It adds +1 level for every buff regardless of the teamcomp, so for instance even if we play 4x dendro teamcomp we still get the first level of each buff provided by Nahida’s burst.

   – Theory B: The constellation adds +1 level but ONLY for existing buffs, so for instance if we play 3x dendro and 1x electro we get level 2 of electro buffs (the shortened CD between hits) but we don’t get any of the remaining buffs.

   Personally I thought that theory A is the only option since her C1 description does not indicate anything about “adding to existing buffs” but apparently there are a lot of people that think that’s the case.

   Does anyone have any confirmation about either of the theories? Any leaks/tweets/messages or anything at all?

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   • “C1 increases Burst buff multipliers will just add 1 to the amount for each of the 3 elements so 1 Hydro, 2 electro and 0 pyro would now be 2 hydro, 2 electro, 1 pyro”
     This was in WFP Sussy Leaks, but still reliable.

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   • that’s interesting question
     there was tweet from CN leaker that C1 is worded deceptively weak, which can probably confirm theory A
     and yeah, if it is B, then C1 will be very niche and limit comp building even more then C0

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4. Build for nahida would be EM/EM/Crit D or R% right? weapon would either be Crit or EM?

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   • Depends on the team you’re playing her in and what her role is. The specifics behind that require live game tests. I doubt a singluar build will work for every team archetype. And whether she is on-field/off-field and driving/enabling matters.

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   • With sac frags and gilded 4pc set I was able to get 811em while using EM/Dendro%/CR%. That will be 973em with the ascension passive with Nahida alone, and 1000+em if there will be another high em character in the team.
     Stats I got:
     Main stats: EM/Dendro%/CR%
     Crit rate: 49.7%(+22-24% from the A1 passive~=71-73% crit rate for the skill)
     Crit damage: 144.8%
     EM: 811(973-1011 with A4 passive). 115(ascension)+80 2pc gilded+150 4pc gilded+187 em sands+221 sac frags+58 from substats=811.
     Attack: 1384. 299(base)+311(feather)+454(sacfrags)+320(42.6% atk% from substats alone)=1384 in my case.
     Dendro%: 46.6%.
     That is with decent but not “perfect” artifacts.

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   • It will depend on your artifacts. She NEEDS 1000 EM. The rest goes to Crit, CDMG. If you get 1000 EM without the goblet main stat be EM, then go for Dendro DMG.

     Tip: Try to have 1000 EM without double Dendro ressonance. It will improve your Nahida in co-op and the excess goes to her damage.

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     • It will not depend on artifacts, it depends more on what weapon are you planning to use.
       If the person wants to use the signature weapon, deepwood 4pc with em/em/crit will be the best damage build. 1000em from double em main stat and dendro% bonus from the weapon and the set.
       If the person wants to use other(em based) weapons, gilded 4pc set with em/dendro%/crit seems to be better.
       If the person wants to use other crit mainstat weapons, situation becomes harder and it needs more fine tuning.

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       • “weapon would either be Crit or EM?” … “She NEEDS 1000 EM”
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         • Typing it in capital letters doesn’t justify your point.

           Proper in-game testing is required. You can’t just separate a character’s build from their weapon, artifacts, and external buffs in favour of a single stat threshold without considering things like diminishing returns and opportunity cost.

           It’s reasons like that why some people prefer Favonius Sword on Kazuha instead of Iron Sting – It enables better uptime for the teams Bursts and smoother rotations.

5. I’ve heard murmurings on various Genshin-related communities that Nahida requires more than a single Electro party member in order to facilitate consistent Spread reactions. Can anyone on here confirm or deny this claim with empirical data? I intend to use a team consisting of C6 Nahida w/ Kagura’s Verity, C6 Fischl w/ Elegy of the End, one other dendro unit for resonance (possibly Yao Yao if she’s meta-viable) or Dendro MC as a placeholder. That leaves one slot remaining.

   If Fischl isn’t capable of applying enough Electro on her own then who would be best to supplement her? Yae Miko and Raiden Shogun seem to have very suitable off-field elemental skills that last a long duration with low CD. I don’t have either of them though, since I’m not too fond of their respective visual designs (no offense to Yae & Ei fans, of course). I’ve heard Yae is not very good in terms of meta viability, while Raiden is unanimously considered Tier 0 across the board. But is it really a good Idea to roll for Raiden as a mere Skill-bot for my prospective C6 Nahida?

   I’m only well versed in Vaporize/Melt comps so forgive my potential lack of understanding in how Electro reactions function. Please educate me, Electro-bros Q_Q

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   • Raiden skill doesn’t do any significant damage, unless you go her full EM as offield hyperbloom trigger.
     Beidou is 4* option which works well and also gives you resistance to interruption and damage reduction.

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   • It seems good onfield nahida team can be she with fischl, beidou and sucrose.
     I wonder if there can be good hyperbloom team with nahida onfield as well.

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     • Is there any particular reason for Sucrose being favored over Kazuha in that comp? I’ve got both C6 Sucrose and C2 Kazuha for reference. Unfortunately, I never once got Beidou in any of my rolls. I might I have her C0 from that one event which gifted her as a freebie, but I don’t think I’d feel comfortable building a 4-star unless they are C6 . I just glanced over her kit and the Burst seems pretty viable despite its high energy cost. Crossing my fingers Beidou ends up on Nahida’s banner xD

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       • good news for you then, her banner is Layla Kuki Beidou and punchy boy

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       • C2 Kazu is generally considered better than sucrose, but considering Nahida’s range and how abyss will be set up for her Kazu’s large circle might not be big enough. Sucrose isn’t restricted to a space in order to provide her em buff. That’s the only drawback I see personally.
         That and sucrose can’t provide for every team while kazu basically can.

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6. We lost another good one… my friend quit because no endgame and loli archon

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   • What do people even mean when they say “endgame” in an online ARPG?

     MMOs increase their level cap every couple of years or so. And in many of those games, the only way the devs make things more “interesting” is by adding a new set of gear and/or add-ons that are literal upgrades to previous BiS sets (aka powercreep).

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     • Not him, but maybe I can answer your endgame content inquiry. I’d personally love to see more challenging content in the vein of Spiral Abyss, but instead of it being limited to an instanced arena, have it take place throughout Genshin’s beautiful open-world. In particular, I think it would be pretty awesome to have giant roaming bosses that traverse each of the regions of Teyvat. Imagine beasts roughly 2x the size of Azhdaha that reset on a weekly basis and give useful rewards upon defeat. They’d need to be big enough to see from a distance since the free roaming aspect would add a layer of exploration gameplay to the mix as you search through each individual region for their respective giant boss. Of course they should be extremely difficult to defeat with massive pools of HP and the rewards would need to be enticing enough to incentivize players to engage with them. Perhaps a small amount of Primogems like around 50-100 per giant boss. That’s just one idea I came up with recently of course, I’m sure there could be plenty of other methods to increase challenging open-world based content.

       Maybe give us an option to raise our world level so all enemies are lvl 100 including minor mobs like Hilichurls. Would be nice for Abyss mobs and overworld mobs to share a similar level of strength for the sake of consistency. Better drop-rates would be a bonus too ^.^ Genshin Is a game that thrives on immersion, so plentiful end-game options to make you feel immersed in the wondrous fictional world of Teyvat would be great. Perhaps more side content along the lines of fishing, wood collecting, etc but stuff that actually requires skill and well-built teams of characters in order to succeed. The possibilities are endless!

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     • As a casual, I’ll be honest here… this game’s casual content… is sog dhit. From the terrible dialogue writing, the excessive use of black screen white text to avoid dialogue animation, the cringe re-use of idle animation on dialogues, the lack of character model diversity between each variant that makes itto looks as much as a twig as childe does, the lack of skip dialogue function despite the terrible writing, to the dub de-sync makes this game’s casual content feels like it’s made by an underpaid small indie developers. That is despite the billions of dollars they made.

       But the real incredible, well polished, and extremely fun part of the game, are the combat system and exploration. But one exists to give reward that progress the other, that is exploration exists to give resource to make you do combat better, but the combat system have no proper place to have fun with after you’ve dealt with abyss over and over and over and over again for the past 2 years.

       Even a casual like me can’t help but enjoy the combat, that’s how good the game’s combat system is. In witcher 3, I dread combat, I avoid it as much as possible so I can enjoy the story and the world more, which is the exact opposite here. After working hard to get 36 stars in abyss, I return to do story quest, which makes me though to myself… “Is this… what I’m working so hard for? This sog dhit dialogue? This cringe ass paimon narration? This fking dumb corner cutting, lazy ass animations and story flow? Where is the skip button so I can skip through this suffering? They don’t care enough to make the dialogue nor the story good, why should I care?”

       Do anyone truly enjoy the casual content of this game? I’m a casual looking for lore and story in video games, and I’m left wanting more for the combat end game content instead. One that doesn’t rely on FOMO like the events does, but a more permanent one like abyss, or the weekly bounty but more challenging. And we have none, except for abyss which have been stale for the past 2 years now. Billion dollars corporate btw… CDPR create such an incredible world full of incredible story and impeccable writing quality with less than a tenth of hyv’s net worth. A world and story so good, I’m not left wanting more for the combat system. Unlike this game.

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       • 1. Genshin is a free game.
         2. You’re free to delete the game if you don’t like it.
         3. Go back play CDPR games if you prefer theirs more.
         4. Never forget CDPR released a sog dhit game called Cyberpunk, which quality is worse than an underpaid small indie developers. It’s a full priced game too lol.

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   • So we’ve got one person who enjoys the game and is willing to support it a lot, albeit with some suggestions for endgame combat-related content.
     … And another person who enjoys the combat system of the game, but is dissatisfied by the game’s lore and story-telling methods. Both people enjoy the open world exploration well enough.

     It seems the concept of “endgame” varies from person-to-person.

     The Witcher Series has been around since 2007 btw. If that is any example, Genshin still has time to consider the aforementioned perspectives and improve upon them.

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7. What’s better, Sac Frag or the craftable Sumeru weapon?

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   • Visually – Sumeru weapon

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   • I think a real sleeper pick weapon wise for nahida is the widsith, she loves all the buffs, enjoys crit dmg, and loves to switch around a lot anyways

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8. Fuck hoyoverse
   Give us more end game content

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   • Erm, you know that this site isn’t an official Hoyoverse thing, right?

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   • Ah yes the negotiator. is that how you ask your mom about things too? “Hey mom fuck you, give me money bitch”

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     • Is hoyo your mom?

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       • Do you know what a metaphor is?
         T
         he inability of some folks to display a higher level of comprehension is always amusing.

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         • he defended hoyo like a kid defend his mom…so i was using a metaphor too but you were too stupid to get it

         • So basically, you don’t know what a metaphor is.

         • Metaphor? So the metaphor for hyv is someone you love and respect?

           Really? The proper metaphor for hyv is something like a vending machine. If a vending machine stole your money, you beat the shit out of it until it spit the item or the money back out.

           Hyv is not a person, it’s a faceless, soulless, heartless corporate entity. And in this case, it’s a disrespectful entity that take you as a fool, saying that they won’t add more combat content because they want to avoid “excessive anxiety” for the players. Of course a gacha game focused on FOMO to psychologically manipulate you from ever quitting want to avoid “excessive anxiety” for the players. They really think that we’re so fking dumb that we’d fell for it like that. They really have ZERO, absolutely ZERO respect for us. None whatsoever. Just lying upfront, won’t even bother to slither around and maneuver around it at all.

         • I sense that you (and the OP) harbor an immense hatred for HYV.

   • @lol I mean….I can understand not liking the company. Like at all. I stopped playing their games like a year ago. And they DID make sense explaining that loving Hoyoverse like a mother makes no sense.

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     • It was merely an observation. I suppose with no tangible goal in mind, they seem to merely be letting of steam on an unofficial site for a game they may or may not still be playing. They’d gain more traction on Hoyolab – at least official members of HYV staff would more more likely to see their complaints.

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9. Enough with the nerd talk and math, who cares. Waifu > Meta
   Nahida will be a top 3 waifu along with Collei and Klee

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   • Right, because there’s no room for number-crunching in a game that’s made characters’ base stats, multipliers, and kit mechanics widely available. /s
     Not to mention the entire premise of combat is focused on Elemental Reactions – or is science irritating to you too? lol

     Not everyone plays just to stare at the designs. Math is just as fun for some people, including the team that actually developed Genshin’s combat mechanics.

     As long as numbers and battle timers exist, there will always be some cases where Meta matters… Whether you care or not.

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     • Based

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   • Honestly, I anticipate Nahida being both a top-tier waifu/daughterfu as well as a T0 Main DPS (especially at higher constellation levels). Problem is most people jump to the assumption she’s meant to be a support unit which is clearly not the case judging by her kit. She wants to be on-field as much as possible. For Abyss I’ll personally be pairing her with C6 Fischl equipped with R3 Elegy, but I’m not 100% sure which characters should fill the remaining two slots…

     Also on the topic of top 3 waifu/husbando I’d say:
     #1 Hu Tao
     #2 Nahida
     #3 Childe
     ^My overworld exploration team is sure to use these three almost exclusively. I know they’re not great for exploration in terms of their kits, nor do they have much synergy when used together, but their designs are simply too good to NOT use constantly xD

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     • i would refrain from using the term “waifu” here honestly.

       Just say “personality > meta” otherwise you are just ask for people to call you a pedo

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   • Dangerously based.

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   • Hol up

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   • That is a weird way to say you are a pedo.

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     • Actually Nahida is 500 year old and Klee 50 year old. If anything it is aether who is too young 😉

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       • “Proceeds to lift fedora while scratching his neck beard that goes all the way to his ass” AcThUaLy we know that the twins are more than 500 years old because they were present during the cataclysm.

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       • Hey! Let’s play a game, you go in the oven, and even if it’s REALLY hot, don’t get out!

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   • FBI OPEN UP

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   • FBI open up

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   • Not the children!

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   • you and the two other undercooked troglodytes in this comment thread should be signed up for euthanasia because calling children characters “waifus” and defending your arguments by saying “OH THEY’RE XXX YEARS OLD ITS FINE ;)” is a very fancy and non-subtle way of calling yourself a pedophile.

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10. I believe nahida maybe have a potentialy that other archon doesn’t have ,each archon brings a unique kit and the best support according to my experience, with a large burst area it has made nahida different

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