 | Name | Nilou |
| Title | Dance of Lotuslight | |
| Occupation | Zubayr Theater | |
| Association | SUMERU | |
| Rarity |  | |
| Weapon |  Sword | |
| Element |  Hydro | |
| Day of Birth | 3 | |
| Month of Birth | 12 | |
| Vision (Introduced) | Hydro | |
| Constellation (Introduced) | Lotos Somno | |
| Chinese Seuyu | 紫苏九月 | |
| Japanese Seuyu | 金元寿子 | |
| English Seuyu | Dani Chambers | |
| Korean Seuyu | Chae Rim | |
| Description | The star of the Zubayr Theater. She is full of warmth and innocence, and her dances are lively and elegant. | |
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Stats
| Lv | HP | Atk | Def | CritRate% | CritDMG% | Bonus HP% | Materials | Total Materials |
| 1 | 1182 | 17.88 | 56.72 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | ||
| 20 | 3066 | 46.37 | 147.13 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | 1033 20000 | 103320000 |
| 20+ | 4080 | 61.69 | 195.76 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | ||
| 40 | 6105 | 92.31 | 292.92 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | 32101540000 | 1013186000032 |
| 40+ | 6825 | 103.2 | 327.48 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 7.2% | ||
| 50 | 7852 | 118.74 | 376.76 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 7.2% | 64201260000 | 103318120K9612 |
| 50+ | 8813 | 133.25 | 422.84 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 14.4% | ||
| 60 | 9850 | 148.95 | 472.64 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 14.4% | 38301880000 | 106318200K914303 |
| 60+ | 10571 | 159.84 | 507.19 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 14.4% | ||
| 70 | 11618 | 175.68 | 557.44 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 14.4% | 6124512100K | 1010818300K92630912 |
| 70+ | 12338 | 186.56 | 592.0 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 21.6% | ||
| 80 | 13397 | 202.58 | 642.82 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 21.6% | 6206024120K | 1016818420K946309366 |
| 80+ | 14117 | 213.47 | 677.37 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 28.8% | ||
| 90 | 15185 | 229.61 | 728.59 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 28.8% |
Skills
Active Skils
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Performs up to 3 consecutive sword strikes. Consumes a certain amount of Stamina to perform a twirling slash. Plunges from mid-air to strike the ground below, damaging opponents along the path and dealing AoE DMG upon impact. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Enters the Pirouette state, dealing While she is in the Pirouette state, Nilou's Normal Attacks and Elemental Skill will cause her to enter the Sword Dance and Whirling Steps stances respectively, causing DMG she deals to be converted to In these stances, Nilou's third dance step will end Pirouette, and has the following effects based on the type of said dance step: ·Sword Dance: unleashes a Luminous Illusion that deals ·Whirling Steps: Nilou unleashes a Whirling Water Wheel that deals Nilou is unable to perform Charged Attacks when under the effect of Pirouette or Lunar Prayer. These effects will be removed once she leaves the field. "Daintily her toes touch the water's face, and the light that ripples forth equals even the seven heavens." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Begins the dance of faraway dreams and springs that hear, causing a Lotus of Distant Waters to bloom, dealing After an interval, opponents affected by Lingering Aeon will take "We have never witnessed that distant dream, but this dance can bring it to life." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Passive Skills
 | White Jade Lotus |
| When Perfect Cooking is achieved on Food with Adventure-related effects, there is a 12% chance to obtain double the product. |
 | Court of Dancing Petals |
| When all characters in the party are all The completion of the third dance step of Nilou's Characters under the effect of Golden Chalice's Bounty will increase the Elemental Mastery of all nearby characters by 100 for 10s whenever they are hit by Such Cores will burst very quickly after being created, and they have larger AoEs. Bountiful Cores cannot trigger Hyperbloom or Burgeon, and they share an upper numerical limit with Dendro Cores. Bountiful Core DMG is considered DMG dealt by Dendro Cores produced by Bloom. Should the party not meet the conditions for this Passive Talent, any existing Golden Chalice's Bounty effects will be canceled. |
 | Dreamy Dance of Aeons |
| Every 1,000 points of Nilou's Max HP above 30,000 will cause the DMG dealt by Bountiful Cores created by characters affected by Golden Chalice's Bounty to increase by 9%. The maximum increase in Bountiful Core DMG that can be achieved this way is 400%. |
Constellations
 | Dance of the Waning Moon |
·Luminous Illusion DMG is increased by 65%. ·The Tranquility Aura's duration is extended by 6s. |
 | The Starry Skies Their Flowers Rain |
| After characters affected by the Golden Chalice's Bounty deal You need to have unlocked the "Court of Dancing Petals" Talent. |
 | Beguiling Shadowstep |
| Increases the Level of Maximum upgrade level is 15. |
 | Fricative Pulse |
| After the third dance step of |
 | Twirling Light |
| Increases the Level of Maximum upgrade level is 15. |
 | Frostbreaker's Melody |
| For every 1,000 points of Max HP, Nilou's CRIT Rate and CRIT DMG will increase by 0.6% and 1.2% respectively. The maximum increase in CRIT Rate and CRIT DMG via this method is 30% and 60% respectively. |
Skill Ascension
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Attack
Elemental Skill
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Sounds
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| Opening Chest | ||||
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| Jumping | ||||
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| Open World Gliding (Start) | ||||
| Open World Idle | ||||
| Fainting | ||||
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Quotes
Audio Language:
| Title | VoiceOver |
| Hello | |
| Chat: Practice | |
| Chat: Sleepiness | |
| Chat: Rest | |
| When It Rains | |
| When Thunder Strikes | |
| When It Snows | |
| When the Sun Is Out | |
| When the Wind Is Blowing | |
| Good Morning | |
| Good Afternoon | |
| Good Evening | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| Good Night | |
| About Nilou: Body Language | |
| About Nilou: Dance and Wisdom | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| About Us: Dealing with Anger | |
| About Us: Going on Adventures | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 6 |
| About the Vision | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| Something to Share | |
| Interesting Things: Dance of the Crystalflies | |
| Interesting Things: Padisarahs | * Complete "The Morn a Thousand Roses Brings." |
| About Cyno | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| About Tighnari | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| About Collei | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| About Kaveh | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| About Dehya | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| About Dori | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| About Lesser Lord Kusanali | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| More About Nilou: I | |
| More About Nilou: II | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 3 |
| More About Nilou: III | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| More About Nilou: IV | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 5 |
| More About Nilou: V | * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 6 |
| Nilou's Hobbies | |
| Nilou's Troubles | |
| Favorite Food | |
| Least Favorite Food | |
| Receiving a Gift: I | |
| Receiving a Gift: II | |
| Receiving a Gift: III | |
| Birthday | |
| Feelings About Ascension: Intro | * Unlocks at Ascension Phase 1 |
| Feelings About Ascension: Building Up | * Unlocks at Ascension Phase 2 |
| Feelings About Ascension: Climax | * Unlocks at Ascension Phase 4 |
| Feelings About Ascension: Conclusion | * Unlocks at Ascension Phase 6 |
| Elemental Skill: I | |
| Elemental Skill: II | |
| Elemental Skill: III | |
| Elemental Burst: I | |
| Elemental Burst: II | |
| Elemental Burst: III | |
| Opening Treasure Chest: I | |
| Opening Treasure Chest: II | |
| Opening Treasure Chest: III | |
| Low HP: I | |
| Low HP: II | |
| Low HP: III | |
| Ally at Low HP: I | |
| Ally at Low HP: II | |
| Fallen: I | |
| Fallen: II | |
| Fallen: III | |
| Heavy Hit Taken: I | |
| Heavy Hit Taken: II | |
| Joining Party: I | |
| Joining Party: II | |
| Joining Party: III |
Stories
| Title | Text |
| Character Details | "Since you're in Sumeru, you must not miss Nilou's performances." This is a fact that most people in Sumeru agree on. There is no threshold for Nilou's dances, so everyone can come and enjoy a most fascinating and engrossing time there. Nilou's audience comes from all walks of life. Be it a knowledgeable researcher or a mercenary who's seen true brutality — everyone is attracted here by Nilou's gorgeous, dancing form. Every time Nilou takes the stage, a press of people crowds the Grand Bazaar until all are standing shoulder to shoulder. Rational sense and wisdom are the mainstream in Sumeru, while art, which stands for sensibility, does not enjoy the same popularity and respect. Yet if wisdom is meaning bestowed upon Sumeru by the goddess, then art stands for meaning that human beings seek for themselves. |
| Character Story 1 | Unlike other dancers across the continent who hail from artistic families, Nilou came from an ordinary family in Sumeru. The life that the family of three once lived was no different from that of many who lived in downtown area. The knowledge they gained from the Akasha was enough for their common day-to-day lives. If there was anything special about Nilou's family, it was that Nilou's parents' loved and cared for her very much. Although the pursuit of scholarship is prevalent in Sumeru, Nilou's parents never compared Nilou with other children, nor did they expect Nilou to become a researcher. Growing up happily and living a stable life was all that they wanted for her. Nilou thus grew up surrounded by love and respect. Later, even when there were differences of opinion and occasional arguments between her parents, Nilou's thoughtful and considerate mediation would permit no harm or grudge to ever linger in their family. * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 2 |
| Character Story 2 | Every inch of the Grand Bazaar has been measured by Nilou's footprints, and she keeps everyone at Grand Bazaar in her heart. Nilou can introduce anyone in the Grand Bazaar in detail, as if they were a family member. Mr. Jut usually gets up early to make tahchin, so if you want the privilege of having the most delicious bite of freshly cooked tahchin, be sure to get up early! Mr. Afshin's storytelling skills are simply divine. His wonderful ingenuity always makes people want to buy his merchandise. Mr. Hushang, who sells toys, has very dexterous hands. With them, he fashions the most fascinating little toys, and they are very popular amongst children. And, of course, everyone has long regarded this smart red-haired girl as a family member too. Every time Nilou goes grocery shopping, she always ends up carrying more items than on her purchase list just by making a single trip through the streets, and the weight of the groceries shows exactly how much people like and take care of Nilou. Of course, Nilou also takes care of them in return. Hushang and Farhad may have a quarrel over a bet, about as long as Nilou shows up, the two will surely be reconciled. If Afshin's Sumpter Beasts have stolen someone else's food, Nilou will come forward and help make amends. If you ask Nilou why she is so enthusiastic, she will answer with a smile: "Because family is supposed to help each other, hehe." For Nilou, her mom and dad are her small family, while everyone in the Grand Bazaar is her big family. * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 3 |
| Character Story 3 | Nilou remembers clearly that she met her teacher at the Sabzeruz Festival when she was eight years old. Back then, the Knight of Flowers gave her a lot of Yalda Candies, and so little Nilou passed by the Zubayr Theater with candies in both hands. The Sabzeruz Festival is a celebration that features dance, but before, only dance groups from abroad were invited to sing and dance at the festival — and on a temporary stage, to boot. Now that the Grand Bazaar finally had its own theater, excited people were flocking to the new stage. Little Nilou managed to squeeze through the crowd to the front of the stage and saw the teacher dance for the first time. Even though there were no flowers on the stage, at that moment, Nilou felt as if she was watching thousands upon thousands of flowers blooming all at once. The candies in her hands fell to the ground unnoticed, and she couldn't help but dance along. It was only when the dance had ended that little Nilou realized what she had done, and hurriedly apologized to the people around her who had made room. It was at this moment that her teacher also walked down from the stage in an elegant manner and helped her pick the Yalda Candies back up. She reached out her hand to little Nilou, and asked gracefully— "Would you like to join me for a future dance?" * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| Character Story 4 | Although she has lived her entire life in Sumeru, the city of wisdom, Nilou has never shown any talent in the field of "knowledge." However, she always knows how to soothe the emotions of others in her own way. "This is probably a generous gift to me from Lesser Lord Kusanali." After learning to dance with her teacher, Nilou became deeply aware of the power of body language. Combining her talents and knowledge of body language, she created her very own form of "body movement therapy." For example, when Mr. Zubayr is angry, everyone in the theater would be walking on eggshells. But Nilou would keep a warm smile, drawing wonderful patterns one after another in the air with her arms and fingers. "Imagine that we are in the rainforest that has just rained, and that you are following me as we walk onward, saying hello to every animal that passes by, waving, leaving everything else behind..." Perhaps this may seem childish and funny to a bystander, but for those who are wrapped up in the moment, Nilou's gentle voice can cause the anger that clouds their minds to disappear before they even know it. What's even more amazing is that, according to Mr. Afshin, this body movement therapy has been trending recently — and it even works on his two stubborn Sumpter Beasts... * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 5 |
| Character Story 5 | Be it in day-to-day life or her performances on stage, Nilou has always maintained a simple attitude — To melt everyone's worries away and let comfort and ease waltz in. But when "trouble" comes to her, she is often distressed due to her inability to make the call. Tahchin sure is delicious, but Pita Pocket is also good, and I also saw someone holding a Potato Boat that seemed really yummy. Which one should I eat tonight? I've heard people talk about places outside Sumeru City... the pure white snowy mountain and windmills the size of giants... Should I also consider going out for a trip? Nilou can often find good reasons to go with any of the options she is considering, and so they are like Forest Tree Frogs sitting across from one another with bellies out, not one able to win the others over. But if there was a person who could make a decision at this time and tell her with confidence and calm: "Why not have half the amount of each and share them with me?" "And as for those places you have never been to, I have already set foot there. I can assure you that they are safe." ...Nilou would dismiss her hesitation in an instant and raise her arms in a dance-like graceful gesture of thanks, before indulging in the joy of having solved a great problem for a long time indeed. * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 6 |
| Letters from the Audience | Refusing to accept gifts on stage has been a long-standing rule in the Zubayr Theater. Sometimes, the audiences do still get too excited and may insist on giving various kinds of gifts to Nilou. That said, such givers will definitely receive a gift in return the very next day, along with a note that has been left at their doors... "Thank you for your kindness. If you would like to express your love for Nilou's dance, you may write a letter to the Zubayr Theater instead of sending gifts." And so it came to pass that like snow flakes dancing and falling in the air, letters filled with the audience members' passionate praise have been sent in batches and droves by the Dusk Birds to the theater's mailbox. During her free time when there are no shows or rehearsals, Nilou will read every letter carefully, share this joy with the other members of the Zubayr Theater, and then carefully preserve these letters. Every word and every expression of recognition and fondness in the letters is worth remembering and appreciating. As Nilou bettered her dancing skills, more and more people came to watch her dance, and in time, the letters have added up to quite the stack indeed. But if someone cracks a joke, saying that Nilou is the most valuable treasure in the Zubayr Theater, she will definitely shake her head with a sweet smile. "Our most valuable treasure is our audience's love, and it is all carefully stored in one mysterious box." * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4 |
| Vision | Nilou has heard her teacher talk about the meaning of dance more than once. From her teacher's perspective, dance is born from human life and has belonged to everyone from the very beginning. "As a dancer, you should convey emotions on stage, and your audience's smiles are their response to the emotions conveyed in your dance." Nilou was well aware that she was nowhere near as good at thinking about the "meaning" behind things as Akademiya researchers. But still, she practiced diligently each day under the direction of her teacher and planned to continue following in her footsteps. When she finally first took the stage, she quickly became completely immersed in the performance, holding nothing back. She thought of the wind, the moon, the gentle sound of the rose blooming, the feeling of stroking the tail feathers of Dusk Birds, and a myriad of beautiful things that existed in this world. She wanted to display the beauty she perceived in her heart to the entire audience through her dance. Slowly, splashes of water ran together, converging into a lake on the stage. Like a Crystalfly dancing on a lake's surface, Nilou gently fluttered back and forth, and the lake-mirror rippled slightly in time to her steps. Like a water lily, her body swirled in the middle of that lake. Amazed at such pure and flawless beauty, the audience almost forgot to breathe. After the curtain fell, Nilou flopped down on the backstage chair and took deep breaths. Like dewdrops on a lotus leaf, a Hydro Vision had appeared at her waist. Nilou thought then that she had perhaps found the purpose of dance at last — "To become beauty, and then to convey the beauty and value of art." * Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 6 |
1,519 responses to “Nilou”
They should at least make the all dendro and hydro to be less restrictive.
Might be nice to have some Sucrose/Kazuha or Bennett or even Albedo and Zhongli somewhere.
But it would means that she can be put into conventional teams… which is a big no no for mhy’s future plan of exclusively selling kusanali’s constellation just to make nilou work. It’s a bad idea for mhy because several billions of dollar of profit isn’t enough for them, they need to make more money. And more money they’ll make. Look, people are even trying to make justification for this inexcusably bad and restrictive passive talent, mhy doesn’t even need to use their PR department to facilitate this decision. The corporate whiteknights are doing it for them.
A very tin-hat take.
Kusanali is an Archon and will likely fit into many Dendro-based teams. People would pull for her even if Nilou didn’t exist at all. If constellations bother you so much, then don’t get them. It’s simple. You don’t have to spend a dime; the game is free-to-play and all of the content can be cleared without buying 5* constellations. There are plenty of people playing with C0 Raiden, Venti, Zhongli (and Yelan) – still breezing through the Abyss.
It’s not white-knighting to say that HYV is making money from constellations. They’re a business. It still costs them at ton of money, manpower, and resources to produce, maintain, and update this high-quality game with new content. They have a right to make a profit and to reap the rewards for their hard work. That’s the reality.
Immediate corporate whiteknighting reply KEK, you really can’t made this shit up, it’s almost as if they have zero self awareness.
Ok dude. Ignore what he said because he’s a whiteknight.
You making up names for what he did doesn’t make him wrong.
The only thing genshin sucks at right now is get new players in. If you have been playing for a while you got a ton of 5 stars. I dont have a single event banner 5* constellation and i can do any content easily just because i played a while and got the right artifacts
Still not your point anyways
Don’t worry about it, hobbit.
Ronald_Mc_Trompe can call names all they want, but it won’t change reality. The option to purchase constellations will always be available in Genshin. The fact I’ve said people don’t need to buy constellations is proof of self awareness. We can buy constellations or just save for other things in life we deem more worthy. It’s like saying someone is a whiteknight because they want and can afford to get a house with a pool while you only want the house. The pool isn’t necessary and neither are constellations.
Hmmm
Debdro MC + Nilou + Fischl + Barbara
This will be Fun 😀
“When all characters in the party are either Dendro or Hydro”
fischl is sad
Well then i play Nilou without the passiv 😀
Might as well replace her with Kokomi
Kokomi’s negative crit rate passive that people still obsess over ironically doesn’t effect her ability to drive in teams that use transformative reactions. While resetting her jellyfish, that’s 100% uptime on healing against bloom damage. Nilou is meatn to buff that damage, not drive it – at least before C6.
Yelan aside, all hydro female chars have small / flat booba. Hmm very disappointing.
ur weird
There is nothing weird about making an observation for scientific purposes
probably cause yelan is carrying all there weight
yelan
That’s because the hydro archon probably have a smaller tits compare to other archons
Don’t worry Candace will help Yelan carrying the team soon.
She need battery, but also need healer. Hydro healer is bad at energy while there is no dendro healer. What a poor character!
rupture playstlye no need ER, she’s the batt instead
Nilou doesn’t need a battery – at least not for her role as a Bloom enhancer. Her Elemental Skill is the main source of her contribution to a Bloom team. And the fact there currently is no Dendro healer is a silly reason to call a character poor. The entire Dendro element and its mechanics are new. Patience and comprehension are good virtues to have.
I have Yelan and I want Nilou, should I get Kokomi to heal the self damage from all the blooms and have: Nilou-Yelan-Kokomi-Dendro Lumine or should I pass on Kokomi and stick with Nilou and Yelan together?
Before you do that team, think rationally and count the amount of dendro cores you’ll be making.
Since you’ll apply so much hydro, dendro will always the trigger, so the amount of cores you’ll make can be counted by how many times dendro MC can trigger off-field.
Which is….. a grand total of 5 times in 15s. Or 6, if you count the skill.
Assuming you’re even doing 50k (which is a hyper over exaggeration) damage with each dendro core, you’re just ended up doing 300k total team damage in perfect rotation. And you can simply kiss goodbye to any other form of damage except for yelan’s.
Also assuming 50k damage per core (lol), you’ll need a dendro character that can proc a grand total of 15 freaking dendro applications to even make it worthwhile. For reference, most characters in the game can’t apply that much element, so you’re asking for mhy to release a broken OP dendro character just to make this team work, which I don’t ever see coming. At least not without paying extra for constellations.
yeah, ive been testing a bit and its way too much hydro, but Kokomi still feels kinda necessary tbh, mostly because of the self damage. If you put a lot of dendro cores on the field, Nilou destroys herself and since dendro cores do 5% of the damage to yourself, getting hit by like 900 damage doesnt seem much until you make 7 cores per E and you lose 6k HP. Kokomi seems to heal just enough so that the self damage doesnt matter at all, so ill probably get her… that leaves me with Yelan alone tho… Who I guess will have to wait until Dehya… or Hu Tao
Yelan can always combo with electro units and/or Xiangling, so you have more options than you think ^_^
Besides, she can still be rather good when paired with something like XQ, Kuki, Sucrose. This team has a little bit of everything, and all character kits work rather well together, although Yelan’s damage bonus is somewhat wasted on Sucrose low non-reaction damage. I ran floor 12 with almost the same team, with the only difference of Ayato subbing XQ and Kazuha subbing Sucrose, and it just swoooshed right through their respective side.
You can also go something like Mona, Yelan, Kazuha, Bennett, if your Bennett is C6 and Kazuha is built attack, hahaha. I ran a variation of this team earlier, and honestly it was hella fun.
There are always more options, don’t get stuck in a narrow “hydro always gotta enable vape” mindset.
I think Kusanali and Dendro MC are gonna be the best teammates for Nilou. it also coincides with the lore as Nilou being a Kusanali follower. So it may end up being a pretty costly team with Kokomi, Nilou, Dendro MC, and Kusanali, or you could change Kokomi with Barbara or XQ. Kusanali will probably have the most dendro application of any dendro character anyways.
I think kusanali won’t apply much dendro without at least C2. That’s been the trend with mhy lately, game changing C2.
Raiden, Yae, Yelan… heck, yelan’s hydro application is worse than xinqiu without C2. Yea, I belief they’ll do that with kusanali, so good luck following the niche made by mhy, you’ll absolutely love it when you slide that credit card over and over again.
Well, at least corporate whiteknights will be happy about it, since they’re so keen on defending mhy anyway, I bet they love it when they’re compelled to pay hundreds of dollars for kusanali constellation. I have absolutely ZERO faith in mhy ever doing anything decent ever again.
Then don’t buy Constellations. And if you’ve lost faith, stop playing the game and move on to something that you agree with and enjoy more. Blaming and pointing fingers at other players you can’t control is just petty.
Yelan and Miko aren’t Archons. Raiden can be played just fine by F2P at C0. If you feel pressured to spend on constellations and have Fear of Missing Out, that’s your own problem.
Yelan is still decent at C0. She brings enough hydro for several pyro DPS, and her omni-buff is powerful. She deals decent damage as off-field DPS. What do you want ? Broken chars at C0 ? Powercreep ?
did they change her again? I read she now does 400%. so bloom usually has a coefficient of 2x (like overload), hyperbloom has 3x. with this she ends up with 6x (200%+400%) what is 2 times higher then hyperbloom and 3x higher then overload and unlike hyperbloom it only needs one hydro and one dendro application to trigger so one application less. ppl like aggravat because it can crit and scales with motion value but forget it also scales with def (what halfs the damage against enemies at the same level), has a bad em scaling and a coefficant of 1.15. bloom ignores def completely and also scales with resi(what might be a good thing when you have her at c2). pair her with 2 dendro and a fast hydro applier like yelan, give the dendro chars a lot em and she is very much viable. ftp should reach ~50k per core with around 1000 em
and whales: with dendro synergy, r5 elegy and r5 khaj-nisut 1400+ em with dendro chars should be possible 1.15x6x1446,85x((1+[16x{1400/(1400+2000))]}=75.755 bountifull core dmg and it triggers rather fast. yes, she is restricted to a certain comps but she isn’t weak in any way because she does flat reactions. that’s probably the first flat reaction team being in the top meta.
Dendro char with 1000 em? Dendro mc without er? Or collei?
Top META is a strong word. To be the top of the Most Effective Tech Available, it have to be… well, Effective. She’s neither effective, nor even optimal. Mhy really screw this up by putting strict limitation on her passive to exclude any other element if you are to utilize it. Dendro might not synergize with anemo, but it is a very damn good addition to hyperbloom team due to how swirl can easily trigger hyperbloom and make them as the exclusive trigger of it. On top of that, electro is a vital part that make dendro cores even relevant at all, because without it, bloom based team is just a coping mechanism at this point because not only they double dendro core production, it also triggers hyperbloom which double on top of a double, which means, quadruple. So, a strictly hydro-dendro team that plays around dendro cores? Simply enough, doomed to failure. Except of course, if that’s their aim all along, so you need to buy specific characters and their constellation just to make it work. Mhy after all, a well proven, evil and scummy multi billion dollar greedy corporation who will resort to such scummy tactic to gain profit.
Btw, the 400% value is a bad mistranslation, it’s not changed at all. Even then, you’ll still need 73k max HP to even reach 300%, so yea…. realistic factor down the drain.
yes, I was a bit drunken and it was a bit of min-maxing.:D especially ftp player (she needs her signature weapon really badly. mihoyo is greedy, we all know that already) doesn’t come close to 70k+ health but still you can come close to 60k health and 65k with yelan c4. also if she really caps at 400% you get 9% instead of 7% so technically you need 74k for 400%. it’s still 280% for 60k life. so instead of 6x factor we now have a 4.8x factor what is 20% less. apart from this I don’t know what you want to say with your quadruple thing. hyperbloom needs hydro+dendro and electro at the end and swirl CAN trigger both hydro and electro. that’s correct but not dendro. the trigger rate depends on you dendro char/applications what you simply cannot swirl. boutiful cores in the other hand only needs dendro+hydro, therefore, easier to access since you dont have to swirl 2 elements all the time and then with anemo it’s just random if you get quicken or bloom as well and yes, hyperbloom does 100% more dmg then bloom but in reality bloom does 200% dmg so it’s only a increase of 50% (200%:100%). hyperbloom in the end is still 37.5% weaker then boutiful cores.
I went too far saying she is top meta, we still have to see and it’s hard to predict on paper. with the current dendro chars she might end up having problems with range, colleis short duration and ending up beeing too stationary especially for a none cc comp.
You completely forgot the fact that electro-charged produce double dendro core. That’s what quadruple means. Electro doubles the dendro core production itself, while also increasing the damage that each dendro core does. To put it simply, a normal bloom is like giving birth to a normal baby, while electro induced bloom +hyperbloom is like giving birth to a twin prodigy. Instead of having one completely average kid, you have two genius kids for the price of one. Sure enough nilou’s special dendro core can do hyperbloom level of damage, but the dendro core production itself is still half of hyperbloom’s production. All mhy need to do is to remove that stupid forced limitation on team element, and it’ll be all fixed. Simple as that. Which I doubt mhy will do, since I’m 100% sure that their aim is to sell new 5 star dendro character constellation that works well with nilou. I have zero doubt about that. Their recent character design philosophy are shifting towards creating constricted niches that only works with specific lineup you need to pay to make it work. Billions of dollars of profit is not enough for them after all, since they need to create more blood sucking scummy gacha games to release, they’ll need more money from you.
Genshin have never been their passion project… it’s just the initial cash cow for them to milk dry and build their greed empire upon.
apart from needing at least 2 enemies affected by hydro beeing close together to electro charge correctely electro charge is not more then just more electro appliacitons. to tigger bloom twice one the same enemy (on more enemies it’s nor hard to get multiple blooms btw) with one dendro applications you need a ONLY dendro imbused enemy first (otherwise there is no dendro application left) then you have to have 2 hydro appliactions and then you need to imbuse it with electro. that’s a defined order you cannot apply casually in a fast pace and boutiful cores can also trigger dendro twice if you aren’t fast enough with hydro applications but only needing 1 reaction. sure swirl can swirl hydo and electro at the same time but then you still need dendro for the first application so I don’t see the advantage here electro charge doesn’t magiacally creat more blooms out of nowhere also bountiful cores is not “hyperbloom level of damage” it has way more raw power and if you multiply a 1.5 multiplyer x2 you end up with 3x what even then is not quadruple.
“Imbuse”? You mean imbue or infuse, right? lul
Anyway, it’s interesting how riled up people are getting over the Hydro-Dendro passive. Like, how many National and Freeze variants do we really need? But I can see a case if Bloom reactions end up not having similar damage ceilings across various levels of investment. But we need real, live-game testing for that.
And in terms of the Dendro application of future characters and their constellations, best to just see what happens. What’s the point of doomposting kits we haven’t seen yet? lol At least save your rants until then.
Have you seen nilou’s actual gameplay? It’s either practically impossible to have dendro as the aura, or missing an entire first rotation.
Here’s the wording on her passive, “the third dance step of Nilou’s Dance of Haftkarsvar will grant all nearby characters the Golden Chalice’s Bounty for 30s upon its completion.”
If you rely on herself as your sole hydro applicator, you’ll miss out entirely on the first rotation. But if you use 2nd hydro, you’ll apply too much hydro on 2nd rotation onwards. You’ll end up in a very unsustainable situation where in first rotation you utilize 2nd hydro, and in further rotations you won’t even use them at all to avoid too much hydro. That’s one entire character slot wasted just to salvage the first rotation. So either that, or you use yelan or xinqiu and just doesn’t give a damn about dendro core production by relying on dendro as your trigger element, which ended up as a synergy in hyperbloom team due to electro charged producing double cores anyway.
Either way, my point is, her passive makes no sense, and super dumb. There’s no defending that aspect which mhy themselves deliberately put into her. And there’s no real good reason for that other than to force future character constellation sales that’ll fit that weird niche. The classic scummy corporate move, create a problem, and then sell the solution at premium price.
dude electro charge is just chaotic and doesn’t produce twice as much bloom by any mean, the amount of electro and hydro you throw in makes it quite impossible to have a dendro application first and sometimes end up with quicken. also what first rotaition? I already told you bloom does no dmg untill it explodes. if you do hyperbloom you infuse your bloom with hydro so it does 50% when it explodes but there is simply no first rotaion. it’s rather more like having 1 more step for dealing this paticular dmg. to the yelan part. if kusanali comes out she might be better since you can have a lot dendro applications depending if she can produce them offfield and whatever her kit is but 25% hp synergy buff is pretty awesome + 40% hp at c4 if you are a whale and here dps is dope even without buff. she is currently the sup dps with the most raw power of all chars in the game. nilou also has okay talent multiplier (so hp is important) apart from producing bountiful cores also if you use 3 dendro char you probably have too much dendro applications but too less hydro applications.
@Chill out, everyone I was a bit drunken when I posted this. otherwise I wouldn’t share my opinion so casually but I cannot delete it anymore so I have to defend my statement and yes, english is not my mother tongue so I apologize for changing my wording midway. xD
@Philospilos: Oh, I see. xD It’s cool then. My post can probably still be directed at other people who’re actually obsessing over Nilou’s passive, I guess. lol
I think you misunderstood. besides, hyperbloom damage is limited to two instances per wave of hyperblooms. burgeon and bloom has no cap on how much bloom damage is received. Say you have 5 bountiful cores spawned in an instance. even though the situation isn’t realistic, it’s a representation of the benefit we get with Nikou being a bloom driver.
those bountiful cores will all do damage whereas you trigger an electro swirl on them with anemo, only two hyperblooms are dealt. also electro charged doesn’t increase the amount of damage dealt by dendro core ruptures. dendro core damage is either increased through Nilou’s passive, 4pc Deepwood memories, or EM. and despite electro charged swirling spawning a hyperbloom + additional dendro core, hyperbloom is single target and limited to do 2 instances of damage per second and bloom damage won’t be as promising as bountiful core rupture.
nilou’s bloom rupture damage won’t be game breaking but will be competitive against fridge teams and burgeon teams solely speaking of elemental dmg output. the character personal damage itself will vary.
“burgeon and bloom has no cap on how much bloom damage is received.”
The perfect “My evidence is I made it the fk up” moment right there buddy. All dendro core have 2 core damage at once limitation, regardless of the type, including nilou’s. Though, nilou’s dendro core production is slow as heck anyway, so it’s whatever. Unless you run double dendro in your team, which in that case… you’re running double dendro lol. -2 character slot doing nothing just so nilou can deal slight amount of damage with the cores. Brilliant team building tech right there, but whatever…. point is, strict dendro-hydro limitation is dumb, mhy is deliberately doing it to force constellation sales, and you’re defending that bullcrap, so… good job mr. whiteknight.
Why are so obsessed with “whiteknights” and constellation sales? It’s been said and proven ad nauseam that constellations for 5* units aren’t mandatory. I’m so ready for this “My speculation and paranoia is correct” type of post to age like milk. So toxic, dude.
You got the formula wrong. It’s not-
DMG=2*400%*Character lvl multiplier*{1+(Em/Em+2000)}
It’s
DMG=2*Chr lvl multiplier*[1+{(Em/Em+2000)+400%}]
Your DMG numbers are inflated, that all I can say. It won’t be as large as 75k bountiful core with your setup.
C0 Nilou doesn’t seem to be worth pulling. Idk it just feels like she absolutely needs her cons to shine. Being a simp I’ll still get her because I’m an idiot.
You’re not an idiot if you’re pulling the characters that you love 🙂
Bloom related reaction does a lot of damage. With a proper build, you can expect an upwards of 30k+ damage per hyperbloom/burgeon reaction from dendro cores.
Sucrose-xinqiu-fischl-dendro MC in particular can constantly do ~30k damage per hyperbloom, and produce around 10 total hyperbloom core per enemy per rotation (might or might not scale well with AoE).
So bloom on itself is not the reason why nilou is underwhelming. The real reason is, mhy’s decision on limiting her to strictly hydro-dendro team. No electro, no anemo allowed. So what that actually means? It means you’ll produce about half the amount of dendro cores because electro-charged (electro+hydro) plus dendro produce double the core when compared to straight up hydro+dendro. How? Dendro first react with electro, producing quicken, and then react with hydro producing core, and the quicken itself react with the remaining hydro, producing bonus core.
No electro in team = half dendro core production, which gimp the fk out of nilou’s team.
In hyperbloom team, dendro MC can produce an upward of ~10 dendro cores per rotation, but in strictly hydro-dendro, it’s all the way down to 5 cores.
5 freaking cores. Even if those cores does hyperbloom-ish level of damage (1.5x normal bloom), it’s still a mere half of production value, and not to mention a confused set of trigger character.
In hyperbloom sucrose-fischl-xinqiu-dendro MC team, sucrose is the sole trigger character because she’ll swirl electro to the dendro cores, which then trigger hyperbloom using her EM stats, so everyone else in the team can just be built normally and does normal damage.
But in strictly dendro-hydro bloom team, good luck figuring out who triggers the bloom reaction. Is it the dendro? Is it the hydro? Build EM for all, and sacrifice any other kind of damage just so 5 of your dendro cores does about 30k damage each… yay……
I bet mhy themselves didn’t expect that the players would use full EM anemo characters to trigger hyperbloom reaction, when they specifically designed that anemo won’t react with dendro. This strict hydro-dendro limitation is as dumb as it gets. So fking bad, deliberately limiting which element is allowed for the team, in a game that uses diverse elemental reaction as it’s core gameplay feature.
You’re overthinking things.
Not really. But her weapon would spike her power up
I’m really unsure about her. She is build around a reaction that can’t crit and on top of that you can’t use hyperbloom either because of her first passive. You have to use the normal bloom reaction that will probably kill herself in the process because for what ever reason Hoyoverse decided that the bloom seeds can’t hurt yourself. She is a whale character because her constellations seems way to ridiculous. She dosen’t have many F2P options for weapons either nor a really good artifact set. She just doesn’t seems very straight forward to play. There is so much to consider for her. Cyno will be probably the much “saver” pick.
I just saw too that her C2 is completly nullified when you don’t consider her first passiv and you use a anemo character in her team. That is SO BS. I really don’t like how her kit is designed and makes me worry for future Sumeru characters.
Just because something can’t crit doesn’t mean it can’t still do great damage. Spamming 30k Blooms with 6.5 meter AoE is no joke. True about the self damage, once her team reaches full potential she’ll be nearly dead after just one rotation even with 55k HP, so a healer/shielder is mandatory, but I always run one on every team so not a big deal to me. F2P weapon options include Iron Sting to buff her own Blooms, Sapwood Blade to buff teammate’s Blooms, and for her on-field dps build, Harbinger of Dawn which believe it or not is her 3rd best weapon just barely behind Jade Cutter. 2pc ToTM is obviously ideal, then either 2pc WT/GD for Bloom, 2pc HoD for dps. Finally, like all limited 5-stars she don’t need cons.
Just remember that Yae Miko doesn’t even have all of her baseline E unlocked until C2, and her energy cost is ridiculously high to simply sell C1. Yeah.
At least Nilou cons build on top, not unlock the baseline.
I think Nilou will be a solid Bloom buffer at C0. Much like Kazuha and Kokomi constellations, her C1 and C2 enhance her base abilities. Her highest constellations (C5 and C6) boost her potential to be an on-field, elemental DPS, but aren’t necessary to perform in a proper Bloom-based team.
“Cyno will be probably the much “saver” pick.”
No, he is also mid af. The real “saver” pick will be to skip 3.1 entirely, except maybe rerun. No, seriously. It’s disappointing, but what do you expect from characters whose entire kits revolve around dendro reactions, being release with no good dendro characters?
Should I pull for Cyno or Nilou? Im thinking about getting one of them on my pretty new secondary account (I made it in the 2.7 delay, just so I can play Yelan without having to spend primogems on my main account cuz i wanted C2 Kazuha for free)
I like both of their playstyles since tbh, they are pretty similar.
I have a C3 Yelan that doesnt really have a teammate since the only other 5 stars I have are Mona, Kazuha and Diluc and I dont like Diluc’s playstyle at all, so, Nilou would be ideal for Yelan, but that leaves Kazuha alone and hes really good with Cyno
Ive seen both of their damage, even done my own calcs and they both have pretty good damage, Nilou having a bit less damage but more team synergy and way less awkward rotations (and also I can use the black sword on Nilou, but for Cyno I probably will need to pull his weapon. Yes, I know the black sword’s passive doesnt work with Nilou, I just want the stats)
Thing is, if I pull for Nilou, since shes 2nd half, maybe I wont have enough primogems to get Kusanali, I am a whale but im not sure if I wanna bruteforce Nahida with money tbh, as im going to spend to try and get C2 on either Nilou or Cyno
The perfect situation would be me pulling for Nilou and getting a Keqing on a lost 50/50 but looking at my luck with Keqing and Keqing cons, yeah that probably isnt happening
So, what should I do? What do you guys think its the better idea? Nilou C2 or Cyno C2?
How could you call yourself a whale if you are concerned about the amount you spend? Speechless.
ok, yeah, maybe i shouldnt have said im a whale, a dolphin is probably more accurate
ive spent more than 2000 euros on this game but I dont waste money on every single banner, just most of them
im not a giga whale getting c6 every character, im a person who does dumb financial decisions because getting three characters at C3 in a row seems like a great idea
Don’t listen to these trolls lmao. Buying constellations on characters definitely indicates a whale. Genshin’s huge leviathans have warped the community’s conception of a ‘whale’.
On to your actual question, since you are a whale and likely have a lot of characters, I would recommend just going for who has a more fun playstyle to you or whoever you enjoy more. Cyno looks more like a razor to me, where he wants to be on field for almost all the time, while Nilou seems more like a subdps like Ayato possibly? Nilou’s bountiful cores gimmick sounds interesting, but not particularly good honestly, and I just don’t see Nilou’s potential that much, so if I were to pick, I’d choose Cyno, as his animations look really cool (I’m not actually pulling either though, wanting Childe and maybe Nahida if strong, then saving for Yelan c6 [I have Yelan c2 with simulacra rn]). Don’t know how much this helped, but whoever you choose, good luck with pulls!
Thanks for the nice comment, but the problem is that is for a secondary account, that was made only on Ayaka’s second banner, so I dont have a lot of characters.
I like a lot both characters a lot and Im down to pull for either of them, so its just about who is strongest, since I plan on running a main dps Nilou if I do get her
I will C2 the character but I wont be pulling for the weapon, I think both of them are pretty unnecessary
“…I am a whale”
Oh really? Real whales don’t waste their time asking questions like this. You are probably just stroking your own ego saying that lmao
1. u r not a whale, real whales would c6 every single new 5* released without questioning who is better/who is stronger lol
2. just get both of them at c0 or c1 so ur brand new account can have more team comp variations.
Nilou mains gangsta until cryo shields on both sides
that kinda make me wonder how normal bloom core and Nilou bloom core deal with cryo shield and other shield in general.
Bloom core ruptures don’t apply an element, so assuming you’d even be able to trigger Bloom at all, it does nothing to all shield types even ones Dendro is good against.