2,812 responses to “Dehya”

1. There have been some leaks that say that she might end up in the standard banner, but the leakers are torn on this one. Some say it is true, while others say it is a fake leak.

   Do you guys think this might be true, or are the leakers trolling?

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   • Very doubtful.
     Previously, there were also rumors about getting into the standard banner of Ayaka, Kokomi, ZL, Childe, Albedo and several other characters.
     The only rumor that was eventually confirmed was Tighnari (yes, rumors about his departure to Standard banner appeared much earlier than it was officially announced) and it was part of the promotion of Dendro.
     If this is true, then soon it will be officially announced on the stream, but I think this is another fake, as with Ayaka, Childe, Albedo, etc.

     P.S. (it’s funny that the Standard banner still doesn’t have its 5*Geo).

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   • I thought the char going to the standard banner will be geo cat female char from inazuma?

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     • CMIIW she’s a 4-star.

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       • No she is 5 star. She would be with Kazuha in 3.7 second half

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   • It wouldn’t make much sense to add another Pyro Claymore 5 star on the banner, but then again people honestly have little to zero reason to pull on it in the first place when the limited banner has better options and the only ones that are only on the standard banner are the three starter units.

     If anything, we need a 5 star Geo unit on there.

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   • Obviously trolling lol

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   • I think what standard banner needs the most right now is a geo element character, while I think Albedo may fits into the category, but it is very likely that a new 5-star geo character would fill the standard banner.

     from the current roster of the leaked characters, what I’m thinking right now is Yaoguang from the Liyue Qixing.

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2. Well, judging by the lack of weekly changes, the rumors about the end of beta test were true and we see the final product in front of us.
   Now it remains to wait for beta 3.5 to find out if there will be a new set in 3.6.

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3. People who say that MHY knows what they are doing and that the community is constantly making mistakes with the assessment often tend to discard the context and forget the nuances.
   — Yes, the players (especially the Chinese) scolded ZL after the release. And yes, at the time of release, he was complete garbage (no kidding weaker than Diona), having neither a reduction in resists nor HP scales, and his shield had a bonus only to reduce Geo damage and Geo resonance was much weaker. Only the scolding of the Chinese community on the topic “why is the god of a country based on China so weak?” forced HoYo to fix, or rather rewrite from scratch his kit.
   — Yes, the community met Yoimyia coldly. What the defenders of MHY prefer to keep silent about is that Yoimiya had a lot of bugs at the time of release. For example, she continued to shoot at the corpses of enemies after they were killed, instead of switching to a new target. The release date of Yoi is 2.0, and the correction of these bugs occurred only in 2.4 (on the fifth patch after its release).
   In the same 2.4 MHY released Yunjin, by the way – and this was also a significant improvement, but at the same time less than fixing bugs in her gameplay.
   — Thoma also didn’t get the raptures on the release, but now he has Burgeon, doesn’t he? And now some numbers:
   Thoma’s appearance in the game: November 2, 2021
   Dendro’s appearance in the game: August 24, 2022
   Do I really need to explain why people don’t like that they can normally play a character only 10 months after receiving it?

   This does not apply to all new characters, but not a small part of them.
   In many cases, there were similar nuances – whether it was bugs, errors in the description of skills (in all languages, since the error was originally in the Chinese description and the translators simply copied it) or the need to wait almost a year or even more until HoYo deigned to make artifacts / supports / reactions for the character (at that time, like others, like Itto – get it all at once in their first banner), making the resentment of the community in many cases much more justified than the defenders of MHY like to expose it.
   There is a big difference between “everything is going according to plan” and “post-factum corrections”.

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   • I wouldn’t use bugs as a factor, as they aren’t an inherent and intentional aspect of a character’s kit. Errors in audio, targeting, visual effects, and everything in between can occur – especially when something new is added to or changed in the game’s code. I don’t think there’s a single character in the game that hasn’t been affected by a bug at some point. It’s bound to happen.

     Releasing characters well-before they can be properly used is indeed confusing for players. One could argue that 4-stars like Thoma and Shinobu would have made more sense being on Nahida’s banner for their debut (instead of Bennett and Razor).

     For 5-stars, the timing has been s a bit tricky. Between releasing new limited Dendro-element characters and reruns, introducing other units that synergize with Dendro couldn’t happen all at once. There’s also the efforts being made to run some characters in tandem with certain special events. It’s quite a web. However, I’m not sure why something like artifact sets can’t be released with the characters that are intended to use them. For example, I don’t understand why kokomi’s Clam set was delayed when Itto’s Husk set was not.

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     • The fact that bugs are not planned does not change the fact that it makes the character and the game for him worse.
       This is not the fault of the players, but an objective problem of the character, which reduces the quality of its use.
       In particular, Yoimiya’s bugs were known even at the beta test – they were there initially and everyone knew about them, but it was fixed only more than six months after her first banner.
       However, many defenders of MHY like to turn a blind eye to such things, saying “look, the players just unreasonably skip the character due to stupidity and prejudice.”

       Just like many people like to say now: “look, everyone skip the character, but now he has become better. What an oversight” – turning a blind eye to the fact that the character “got better” a year after his appearance, and before that, for a whole year, he really was a ballast for any team.
       Do players really have no right to be unhappy that they literally have to wait another whole year for a new region, just so that the character they have already received is useful? According to many commentators – no, they don’t.

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     • I’m not saying that bugs don’t have a negative affect on a character’s performance. They do. They are undesired outcomes. But the actual fact that they are not the direct and conscious result of a programmer’s actions still matters. Sure, people viewing leaked footage of Yoimyas kit could see some potential issues, but how can you prove that those issues were brought to HYV’s attention by the beta testers themselves? How do you know any of them were actually aware?

       I’m not interested in what rights people simply “say” players should have or not have with regards to character’s kits. People say a lot things online. But that doesn’t mean you have to dwell on it and take it to heart the way you are. I wouldn’t go as far as saying a character like Dehya is entirely useless for a year upon release. People will discover ways to play her. Rather, characters like her aren’t released at their most appropriate/greatest potential – which, like I said, is an odd strategy on HYVs part. But this isn’t the first time. So what are you going to do about it? Complain on HH and be unhappy for another year? Having these sorts of discussions is fine, but what good is it if the participants aren’t looking for solutions year after year?

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   • Probably everyone who protect devs is definitely not aware that the devs regularly makes mistakes, and only months later he remembers that they need to be corrected.
     In addition to the technical bugs that appear every new patch, and the inflated size of the game’s memory space, they still “manage” to release a raw character that becomes more or less playable after months and several patches.
     So it was with kokomi, new artifacts, new opponents, a compromised abyss.
     so it was with thoma, initially he served as a shield-bot, now he plays in a burgeon.
     this was the case with yoimyia , and even today this bug with aiming periodically occurs
     so it was with Ayato, his E did not start the infusion, and his stance skill could last indefinitely until you leave the domain

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     • And months later, you’re content to remain dissatisfied and complain on HH. HYV is very unlikely to even see your criticisms here. How ironic.

       Btw, the developers don’t need protecting. You just don’t like people to disagree with you.

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4. Not all Pyro 5stars are made to be a hypercarry. She basically play the same as Albedo and they had no complain for him but somehow when that playstyle is under a Pyro element, it becomes a punching bag to bash on. I think that Hoyoverse isn’t run by a bunch of pre-schoolers and what they did to Dehya is completely thought-out and looked-over behind the scene and I would like to see how she will play in the future instead of just another typical power-creep unit.
   If anyone here thinks she’s too weak and boring to wish on, you have all right not to pull for her. And if you’re out here actually bully and trashtalk people pulling for her, go get a shower.

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   • albedo has more duration, auto trigger (as opposed to having to be hit), shielding which if managed won’t require healing, and better buffs.

     Dehya can’t do anything better than anyone else. I find that disappointing because I’ll pull for her anyways, but I wanted a good unit to change my gameplay without losing performance.

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     • actually, opposed to your opinion, albedo’s solar isotope (if thats the skill’s name) only triggers when the enemy takes damage.

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   • – Does Albedo spend 6+ seconds on-field?
     – Does Albedo deal 70% of his on-field damage, not from his summon hits? (70% урона Dehya – Q, 30% – E) and most of Albedo’s damage is burst once every 18 seconds, not constant hits?
     – Albedo has an 8-second hole in its summon that needs to be fixed with С2?
     No, it doesn’t do any of this, but Dehya does it all. So where did you notice the similarity with Albedo in her kit?
     You create Straw Man (everyone wants Dehya hyper-carry) and fight with him, instead of rejecting the arguments that have been put forward. The problem is not that Dehya is not hyper-carry, but that she is bad at any position you put her in:
     -on-field dps,
     -off-field dps,
     -support to increase team damage,
     -support to increase team survival,
     -member of teams playing from crit reactions,
     -member of teams playing from dendro reactions;
     In each of these roles there is a C0 4*, which will be significantly better.

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   • She would be pretty good if she were pyro Albedo.

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   • Playstyle isn’t what matters here dude, it’s been obvious the whole time that she’s not meant to be a hypercarry. But she could at least be good at what her actual job is. If her uptime and restrictions weren’t bad enough, her damage ratios are simply awful. Albedo is good because he actually has good damage ratios. That’s not a difficult distinction to make, even before considering that Albedo has effortless 100% uptime. Hell, Albedo is actually a super easy example for why Dehya fails in her role.

     Just for some quick math:
     Albedo skill at level 10 – 240.8% defense damage ratio
     Dehya skill at level 10 – 108.36% attack + 1.86% HP damage ratio

     Albedo base defense = 876
     58.3% Defense artifact = 510
     510 defense = 1228 damage per E proc
     So he gets + 1228 damage to his sub-dps effect for building his core stat, completely independent from what weapon he uses.

     Dehya base attack + signature weapon = 873
     46.6% Attack artifact = 407
     407 Attack = 441 damage per E proc
     So she gets 441 damage from building her core stat, literally 1/3 of what Albedo does – and that’s WITH a 5* weapon giving her a huge base attack boost. And don’t even think about building HP core on her, because I ran the numbers for that too, and it comes out to + 136 damage per E proc.

     And mind you this is just considering the scaling of the core stat. Albedo also has the benefit of gaining 28.8% geo damage from leveling, while Dehya got stuck with HP, which is the even worse part of her scalings.

     And hey, all this is before considering that Albedo’s E can proc every 2 seconds to Dehya’s 2.5, has a 4 second cooldown with 30 second duration to easily move it around and keep it up while Dehya’s has a 20 cooldown with a 12 second non-refreshable duration.

     Just to illustrate how bad this really is, I’ll do Dehya the favor of considering a well-optimized sub-dps build with her weapon for a comparison.

     End result: About 2360 Attack, 29985 HP, 61.6% pyro damage, 73% CR, and 154.2% CD. Using Crimson Witch 2-piece + an 18% attack 2-piece.
     2360 Attack + 29985 HP = 3114 damage per E proc
     61.6% pyro damage = 5032 damage
     73% CR and 154.2% CD = 10697 average damage per hit.
     10697 damage in 2.5 second intervals, 12 second duration, results in MAYBE 5 procs if you activate the first proc instantly.
     So 42788-53485 damage per 20 second cycle.

     Now let’s look at Albedo.
     Let’s say I give him an absolute dogshit build. He gets 30% defense and 15% geo damage from 2-piece effects, and runs Def/Geo damage/Def primary stats, but all the substats on this build are completely useless. Also gets 28.8% geo damage from leveling. His passive increase E procs by 25% against enemies below 50%, so we’ll pessimistically say it’s active less than half the time for a 10% damage boost.
     So he has 2160 Defense, 90.4% geo damage, 5% CR, and 50% CD.
     2160 Defense = 5201 damage
     90.4% geo damage = 9903
     10% average boost from passive = 10893 (Already higher than Dehya’s end-result)
     5% CR and 50% CD = 11,165 average damage per hit
     Hits every 2 seconds constantly, so 10 procs in 20 seconds
     111,653 damage, aka more than twice as much DPS as Dehya

     If an Albedo with only HP/EM/ER subs wielding a dull blade can do more than twice as much off-field DPS as a heavily-optimized Dehya with her signature 5* weapon, you have a BIG problem.

     And please don’t say something about “but she tanks!” when she can’t alleviate the need for a dedicated healer or shielder.

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     • I’m sure an Albedo with no focus on EM would “tank” better via crystalize than Dehya anyway, even though nobody takes that reaction seriously. Lv80 Albedo with 0 EM would give 1597 HP per shield, so with 10 of those that’s pretty close to 100% damage mitigation for a squishy DPS. He can afford to lose half of them and it’s still more reliable due to the uptime, and any argument about how you’d still need a healer also applies to Dehya. Plus any damage those shields absorb is straight up nullified, rather than suffered by Albedo in the back.

       What the hell even is her kit? I don’t understand.

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     • You’re cool, man.

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   • If you think our only issue is that she’s not a hypercarry, pls read her damage ratios and compare them to any remotely decent sub-dps in the game

     Albedo has actual damage ratios to work with. That’s why he’s good. That and the permanent uptime.

     I ran some numbers for the sake of your comparison.
     Albedo with a Def%/Geo dmg/Def% artifacts, 30% def 2-piece and 15% geo damage 2-piece, wielding a dull blade, and getting only EM/, HP, and ER substats. (i.e. no damage contribution from subs at all)
     Dehya with her signature 5* weapon, Att%/Pyro dmg/Crit dmg artifacts, 18% Att 2-piece and 15% pyro damage 2-piece, with her substats having 30% Att, 35% CR, and 42% CD.

     And guess what? Albedo does more average damage per proc of his E than Dehya does on those builds. His E also hits every 2 seconds compared to Dehya’s 2.5, and has 0 downtime compared to Dehya’s 12 second duration on 20 second cooldown. The result is that Albedo’s E on this trash build does more than twice as much damage in a 20 second interval than Dehya’s E does on her heavily-optimized sub-dps build.

     If dull sword, 5% CR/50% CD Albedo does more damage than a near-perfect sub-dps Dehya build, you have a BIG problem.

     And pls don’t say “but Dehya can tank” when her tanking function can’t replace a dedicated healer/shielder. She needs to carry her weight as a sub-dps or she’s pointless.

     And I say all this despite the fact that I will be pulling her anyway simply because I love her design and character. But it’s okay to not be okay with Mihoyo giving us trash kits.

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     • From the very beginning, this is an unfair comparison. As we know from the plot, the Dull Blade is a god-tier weapon that can easily defeat Archons and Harbingers.
       Obviously, the one who uses it has an absolute advantage.

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   • I am rolling for her when she releases, but your first two statements are incorrect. All of the previous “pyro 5 stars” have indeed been made to be a hyper carry. Their intended purpose was always meant to be hyper carry even though some of the older ones may have been overshadowed now.

     Also there were many complaints made at Albedo. His skills have split scaling where you have to choose between Atk or Def (Unlike Alhaitham that just uses both) which means you can never truly maximize him. Most of his cons are not worth pulling because they provide little to no improvement for his kit. His passive provides EM which is mostly a dead stat on all Geo characters. The only reason people stopped complaining is because they added Def artifacts and his event 4 star weapon which synergize well together. His previous problems are still there, not to mention new players can not get his event weapons. They just found a way to bribe most of the veteran players without fixing him to reduce complaints.

     That being said, I love playing Albedo and I see the similarities between Dehya and him so I will be pulling for her. If she turns out to be a little lacking I hope they add artifacts in the future that make her a better unit like they did with Albedo.

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5. im gonna be happy if her burst can hit enemies that are in Venti’s burst

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   • If Genshin released multiplayer end game content where you could only participate with 1 character in a team of four. C4 Deyha would actually be pretty good, self heal, damage mitigation, energy recharge and high HP pool. C6 for better damage.

     But I don’t think that kind of content is coming any time soon.

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6. Some thoughts:
   *Despite the decrease in damage from Dehya, damage will gradually accumulate, since Dehya reduces only 50% of damage, which makes her a weakened alternative to hill.
   *Also, 6 seconds (1s animation, 4 seconds of punches and 1s last kick) on-field is quite a lot.

   The only option in which these 2 things do not interfere is when Dehya is our on-field character, and the rest of the team members are able to do their job off-field.
   This will also partially solve the energy problem that Dehya seems to be suffering from without C4 (it is unknown whether MHY fixed her energy problem that she had at the beginning of beta).
   It’s not rational, but it’s possible.

   However, another problem pops up here – namely, her limited ability to work with XQ, Y, Beidou, Thoma and many others, which significantly limits the number of possible detachments (tests are needed to see if her Ult works together with C6 Fischl).
   I think in a team with her, we need off-field DPS that beat without paying attention to what the main-DD does, such as Yae, Xiangling, Rosaria and the like, or burst characters capable of dealing damage in a short period of time.

   From the commands that come to mind:
   *Rofl-Pyro: Dehya + Bennet + Xianling + Kazuha (the same rofl-Pyro)
   *Melt: Ayaka (or Keya) + Rosaria / Shenhe (buff A4 + buff second Cryo) + Bennet + Dehya (yes, Xiangling or Tao will be much better not only due to their damage, but also due to their buffs, but still …)
   *Burgeon: Dehya + Nahida + Kokomi / XQ/ Yelan + some kind of buff or off-field DPS (yes, Thoma is better here, but I remind you that we are just looking for a way to use Dehya. This should work, but will break a lot about ICD Dehya)
   *Yae + Fischl + Dehya + Bennet / ZL (the most dubious of the listed options. Dehya is needed here for the sake of Dehya; she probably takes over TotM and to give buff Yae & Fischl)

   I don’t think there are teams with the current characters where Dehya will really be at least competitive, but if we still want to use her, I think it will be something like this.

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   • As a field unit, Dehya suffers from the things you mentioned, I’ll add one more, personal battery, personal healer, personal off-field damage source.
     Doesn’t it take a lot of buffs to at least be normal?
     Сompared to Itto. There was already albedo, there was already ZL, gorou released with him.
     Compared to diluc, there was bennet, there was xingqui, there was sucrose.
     Fuck how many things they missed. Was this done on purpose, or stupidly?

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7. This comment section is more entertaining than the actual game.

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   • Instigating is fun when the stakes are low. The difference is that registered accounts can reply instantly. Otherwise you have to wait for a Moderator to approve your message hahaha. Sucks to be you.

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     • I only post with this account. Are you trying to tell us that’s what you do? Self-snitch hahaha.

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       • Keep making excuses and trying to change the subject as much as you want, man. It won’t change anything.

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       • Nah, bruh is right! We’re definitely the same person. This also applies to anyone else who found your math on Dehya interesting.

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       • ^ lol

         Bro is seeing Lil Mac in the reflection in his cereal milk.

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     • It is suck and annoying that the account will get automatically logged out after the amount of days

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8. People are so mad about dehya kit. Everyone need to wait for her to come and see her kit works in future patches. Don’t like just skip her and move on. No point crying about and being toxic about her kit. All characters are not meant to be insane. So just give chance to hoyo to try new things.

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   • Oooooor, hear me out here.
     We DON’T do that. And instead we continue to be critical of her everywhere so that Mihoyo can take another look at her and rebalance her like they’ve done with multiple other characters.
     Wow, I’m so glad I got that thought out, that sounds so much better than just calling criticism as “toxic crying” and burying our hands in the sand hoping things will get better without ever letting anyone know they should.
     How about we give hoyo a chance to try new things AND let them know when things aren’t working out? Woah, I’m just full of ideas today, almost as if, oh I don’t know, there was some kind of crazy cooky range of things a character can be between “insane” and “total garbage” like… hmm… servicable? Good? Decent? Owiewowie! Just think about it. A character, that isn’t absolute bullcrap, made to be better without making it insane! Oh my, how crazy would the world be if such a thing was possible?
     Could you imagine?
     Could you imagine some silly reality in which Genshin got better due to player feedback instead of people just being quiet?
     Like purely hypothetical, imagine if Zhongli was lackluster at launch, and somehow through crazy magic of “Crying about and being toxic” he was actually improved to be a good guy?
     Or imagine something silly like events costing resin, and “Crying and being toxic” made mihoyo realize that it’d be better for events to not cost resin. That would be such a crazy world to live in if such things happened. Like, imagine if serenitea, fishing, weekly boss discounts, condensed resin, increased resin cap, imagine if all those things somehow ended up being the result of “crying and being toxic”. How wild crazy would that be?

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     • Oh? Did events really cost Resin before? Lol.
       I started playing only after the release of Inadzuma and have never heard of it.
       I only heard about the Zhongli change – I even found an official Hoyoverse article about making changes to his abilities and heard about increasing the Resin’s limit.
       Now I’m even wondering – how much Resin events used to cost?

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       • Yes, when the game launched there was a Fischl/Mona event that costed resin and later there was an oceanid event wich you needed resin to claim the rewards. If i remember correctly it costed 20/40 per run dont remember exactly how much.

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         • The first one costed resin too right? It was something about an alchemichal furnace/machine

       • Maaaan her release date is close and I still dont understand how the f*ck Mihoyo wants us to play her to be at least fun, if she stays like this she’s gonna as boring as Albedo wich is really sad.
         Am still rolling for her but im pretty sure that i wont be using her because she is not gonna be really fun to play.

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     • i understand where this arguement is coming from, its just that its hard to know what they plan to do with Dehya AFTER she releases, its easy to say every other character are good now, but would people stay argue that back then when they didn’t know a character would get buffed. Dehya doesnt really have any artifacts that work with her? just wait for a new one to roll out, Xiao lasted that long without a concrete set but it still happened. Her shielding is bad, if they released a good healer that also healed off field, suddenly Dehya could rival zhongli and people scream powercreep.
       you can say its cope but you have to be delusional if you think that this wont happen, its better for a unit to be dog and get better over time than to make another must pull unit that’s used to berate other characters.
       its fine to skip her now, i just dont want to wait possibly another year just to pull her if they somehow make her good before she reruns again.

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       • No, Qiqi doesn’t suddenly make Dehya good.

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       • -Yae, Nilou and Childe (2/2 it’s overall better on him) also don’t have a good 4 piece set but they are still good.
         -Xiao brand artifact is not even a big upgrade over 2/2. Most of specific character artifacts aren’t a huge improvement over 2/2 combinations.
         -ToM and Emblem works on Dehya
         -An off field party healer wouldn’t powercreep ZL in any way. Shields bring 100% interruption resistance and neglects damage. No damage+No interrumption > Heals >>>>>>>>>>>>> half damage taken and meh interrumption resistance.
         Only way to powerceep him is a new broken shielder with 0 downtime and buffs like Kazuha’s
         -It’s dumb to think that it’s fine to release a character being dog water and “it may improve in the future”. The second thing is worse than copium, nobody knows the future and there are characters like Klee who never got a huge improvement over time (outside the broken Kazuha who is a buff for every PECH character). There won’t be a new element to save her (short roadmap), so yeah.

         I just want to confirm something, You are not by any chance a NFT Bro? (thrust me bro, she’ll get better)

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         • my idea was if an off field party healer could comfortably out heal redmanes blood, you could have a slightly better shield but you’d still get staggered. having just a healer is risky since you can get nuked, meaning dehya could make any hit not a one shot. you don’t need to have full mitigation if your character still lives, but i agree she needs way more damage to compensate. again, saying a character can’t get better overtime is short sighted, but again, i agree she should have been servicable in the first place.

         • everyone said the same about kokomi (lol no crit, lol who needs healing when zhong exists), enter the wolves and later dendro and kokomi is now a must have for her off-field heals and superior hydro application, no crit needed.
           and kind of same but in reverse happened with eula, many people (not everyone) were claiming her to be a solid dps pick, but now nobody even remembers her because physical dmg gets nerfed every patch by new monsters that resist it even more than the previous ones and no new characters to buff her. mika could help her, but doubt will save her.
           so i wouldn’t be jumping to conclusions with dehya yet (also same with alhaitham, he is very good regardless of the nerfs) just because she seems bad on paper right now, mihoyo knows what’s coming and we don’t.

       • Just wait until they release 3 more 5*stars that actually work with her, then she’ll be good!

         The amount of dumb. I cant

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         • i’d rather wait for a new set of characters to come out to make a new team comp than to have yet another cookie cutter swap character cause they either do more damage/shielding

9. is she ok with bennet c6 + xingqiu/yelan + nahida team? i want to try to make her just like eula through normal attack.

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   • you should wait until her release to see if her attacks can trigger coordinated attacks from xingqiu, yelan, fischl, etc.

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   • oh, c6 bennett, i guess it would work but her normal attack scalings are kind of low sadly. i don’t know if her attacks are faster than normal claymores, but if they are then it balances out.

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   • Yes. I talked about this team a few pages back. This team is probably where she fits in best.

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10. I heard that the beta test is over and we won’t be getting anymore changes from now on and I’m so sad that this is how they’re leaving Dehya.

    Ignoring her damage scaling since that’s not super important to me, her kit really feels incomplete and not too fun. I’d so be into the berserker play style – going out of my way to take damage to deal more damage or charge up some sort of additional skill. I can get that people see here as a new Tank role or whatever but, we have shielders for that do we not?

    I just can’t understand the 50% mitigation. Did they think she’d be too good of a “shield” if she had 100% mitigation, especially with the damage only being taken over time? Yeah, I could definitely see that but, make her do something else with the damage taken if she isn’t going to be a full on “shield” or help recover the hp loss of the active character.

    I’m sure they’ll make a artifact set that benefits the damage taking and/or release an enemy to make her mechanic more important like they did with Rift Hounds but.. They really half-assed it with Rift Hounds and would probably do the same with a new enemy for Dehya. Rift hounds are the only enemy with the corrosion effect, they don’t appear in groups larger than 4 outside of the abyss so they’re pretty easy to evade and they’re pretty easy to interrupt.. Unless the new enemies attacks straight up ignore shields or even do additional damage when a shield is present, it really won’t mean a whole lot.

    With that all said, I’m definitely still going to pull her as I’ve been waiting since she first appeared. Currently going to build her as a melt dps with Rosaria, Sucrose or another off-field cryo applicator, and Bennett.

    Just.. a bit disappointed so far. Maybe we’ll get a surprise change, maybe it’ll be better. I’m always open to being proven wrong so, there’s hope.

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    • nah they appear in groups larger than 4 outside abyss, like the clam and DEF artifact set domain and in events.

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    • Why did they finish it so early? There are still 3 weeks left …

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    • She’s 3 characters in 1: A Burst DPS, a Tank, and a Healer (herself only, but can repeat every 20 secs). On paper the combination seems pretty strong to me.

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      • Does less damage than Noelle, protects less than Noelle, heals less than Noelle.

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        • tf you mean heals less than noelle? thats like saying hu tao heals than barbara.

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          • Obviously, nobody calls Hu Tao a healer, but it’s funny to think that she can heal up to 68% of her max HP (or 77.75% at C5) on a 15s cooldown, while Dehya gets 50% every 20s. Also people often skip Hu Tao’s Q and/or run Shim because that aspect of her kit doesn’t really matter.

        • Noelle is Geo. You can play Geo if you want. lol

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      • Yeah, it may sound good.

        IF IT WAS ACTUALLY WELL EXECUTED !!!!

        Noelle, a 1.0 4* character, is 10x better than Dehya in those roles.

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      • Dude, trying to justify Dehya is going too far.
        Dehya – Healer? Wth… Then Hu Tao is also a healer – she also treats only herself, just like Dehya. And also distributes Crit Rate to the whole group, hence Tao – support and healer according to your logic.
        This is not praising Tao, but showing how far such logic is from reality.

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