451 responses to “Xilonen”

1. he’s so “broken” that you’re forced to switch chara if you want to heal them, because they decided to not giving her team healing (for example like baizhu)
   this is very bad with furina

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   • She’s not even meant to be a healer, it’s just a bonus given to her for her def scaling because she make no use of it outside of her blessing state’s attacks, burst, and signature weapon, which means nothing to a support.

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2. So if I where to use Xilonen as a main dps (fully acknowledging it’s not the best way to use her and that itto or navia are probably better) then mono geo would be the way to do it, right?

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   • Mono Geo and Triple Geo seem about the same to me, depending on which characters you have available/are willing to build. I think Zhongli will be the crux of it.
     Zhongli loses some relevance with Xilo compared to any other team that could use him since Xilo already has shred on her own, and 76% shred (36% Xilo+20% geo res+20% Zhong) is massively overkill, but you also need a shield for geo resonance to work, and without Zhongli you’ll have to go 1PECH (for triggering crystallise, or just using a different shielder).
     I’ve seen a lot of people theorising her maximum DPS would be through Xianyun, but as far as I’m concerned that would be a Xianyun team featuring Xilo, not a Xilo team (obviously you and anyone else is free to do as you like, it’s just not for me).
     I’m going to try first with Xilo, Kachina (Cinder City), Chiori, then 1PECH healer flex (Kuki for now) holding Songs of Days Past. SoDP isn’t an amazing buff, but it’s the only flex set that buffs damage without requiring ATK. I should note (in case it even needs saying) that Gorou is likely to be Xilo’s best buffer overall, but I’m not using him since I just don’t really like the guy.

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     • Can confirm the above works well enough https://imgur.com/a/H8QYaQM
       The current abyssal blessing is doing a lot of heavy lifting but she’s only level 80 and somewhat unoptimised, 90 and better artifacts should bridge that gap. Some further observations
       DPS Xilo’s res shred remains active while she’s on-field so having a strong off-field DPS to take advantage of that is pretty huge, meaning she pairs very well with Chiori or Albedo. Before C6 Gorou mainly buffs the active character and since Xilo isn’t a hypercarry I think Kachina is better overall when using Chiori or Albedo, since Cinder City is partywide. The only caveat is you then need 1PECH (for Cinder City and geo res), and as far as I can see there are no great options for that, just various okay options. At C6 Gorou likely pulls ahead of Kachina (not crunched numbers here, just theorising), and would enable you to take both Chiori and Albedo at the same time if you have them.

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   • yea. maybe Her, Gorou, Albedo, Mona? Or Furina if you have her C2

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3. Since there’s still some confusion (and since her final kit is locked in) I thought I’d make a very simplified explanation for the samples.
   C0 with 1 or less PECH = Only the Geo shred will activate and only when Xilo is in Nightsoul on-field. This is for DPS Xilo.
   C0 with 2 PECH = When Xilo maxes out her Nightsoul points the PECH shred (depending on her team) and Geo shred will activate for 15 seconds. This is for support Xilo with 1 Geo teammate.
   C0 with 3 PECH = When Xilo maxes out her Nightsoul points the PECH shred (depending on her team) will activate for 15 seconds. In this setup there is no Geo shred.
   C2 = The Geo shred (only the Geo shred) is always active and does not require Xilo to max out her Nightsoul points or be on-field. This allows Xilo to Geo shred from off-field for a Mono Geo and 1 PECH team. Importantly, she will remain unable to heal in those setups. PECH samples (in 2/3 PECH teams) still require activation as normal.

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4. I wonder whether there’re actually more or less players that pull for meta/broken character? From how I see – as someone who has been since patch 1.0 – this game is pretty casual and relax, like you don’t really need to try so hard lol

   I’ve pulled for Dehya (c2) banner when everyone said she’s bad, simply, cuz I like her design and fits for different kind of playstyle that I have (not abyss optimal, but I can still work around with her).

   I don’t pull for Neuvillette despite being the current top all-around character to beat endgame content, simply, cuz i’m a waifu collector and I find his combat style abit boring for my taste.

   Probably the only male character I really pull for is Baizhu cuz I desperately need Dendro healer and applicator for my Nilou team.

   In short, everyone should be chill haha just pull for whoever you need to go with your existing team or if you are in the mood, pull for your favorite – VA, design, kits, lore.

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   • Well said. I like to say “fun over optimization” (nerds who have fun optimizing notwithstanding).

     Now, personally, I exist on the other end of the skill spectrum. Playing for 3 years but still panic, fuck up the rotation, and rarely find the Abyss “easy”. I skipped Neuvillette waiting for Furina, and on his first rerun I continued to resist pulling for him because 1) boring gameplay to me, and 2) too overpowered = no challenge = no fun. Why would I spend resources to make the game less fun?

     But someone made a good argument: Neuvillette can help me save time in one half of the Abyss while I have fun with more creative teams on the other half. That made sense to me, and I got his C0.

     Well, joke’s on me, because my skill level is garbage, and I still barely clear the Abyss even with his help and a C2 Furina. So yeah I pull for the characters I want (like Emilie C0R1) and skip some meta (Raiden, Arlecchino), but I still depend on a bit of the meta to barely get by.

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   • Npc comment number 19100378

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     • Hate female characters won’t pull for them overhyped, ugly

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     • useless waifu

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   • cool story bro

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     • sorry but what waifu actually does? are you like very very attached to fictional characters just the fact of having them on your account makes it worth your pulls? no hate but it is weird. loving character gameplay-wise is much much more important as you don’t (btw now I’m not sure) just sit in the game and observe your character 24/7, but you play with them. this “only pull for waifus” is right in some way but very cringe in other

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   • To answer your question: Less.
     Waifu and, to a lesser extent, Husbando pulling can get very costly. Meta pulling can be much less expensive, allowing for a better ‘bang for your buck’ scenario. I’ve been playing since 1.0 and likely have a 95% event and daily login/check-in completion rate. These two factors mean I get most of the characters I want without spending money. To me, this is very chill.
     I enjoy game mechanics and putting together strong teams. I’ve already been playing my ideal Hyperbloom team(s) for over 2 years now, so there’s not a terrible need to make stronger teams. Neuvillette wasn’t appealing to me because we already have high hydro application supports but not for Dendro, so he didn’t appeal to me.

     All that said, individuals like myself are just hunting for ways to beat Hyperbloom now. I’m very close with Noelle/Furina but their energy situation is not comfortable. I’m thinking Xilonen might give enough energy and damage buffs to be clutch for a team like this. At this point, it’s less about making the strongest teams and more about making fun teams work.

     Sidenote: I would never tell someone to pull for aesthetics if they just started. I’ve heard countless first hand accounts of regret and frustration with weak characters as they struggle with a newly developing account. Likewise I’ve never heard anyone complain about their strong team because they passed on a Waifu or two to make their early gameplay strong and capable. In short, I consider advising new players to roll for VA, design, kits, lore etc. a form of toxic positivity and too easy for year+ account holders to suggest

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5. Imagine to have a life and don’t even have the mind for these retards problem genshin s people have

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   • you say that but farming in HSR and ZZZ,
     6-set instead of 4-set,
     trash crafting system that steals 10 gold relic for 1 new garbage piece,
     ridiculous fking powercreep,
     and you can’t even use a RAINBOW goblet/sphere with great main% and minor affixes,
     dropping two new 5* despite the lack of pulls to keep up (10 free pull ain’t enough when we get 180*2 per update),
     and so on.

     I got a life and I would say GI is still the most casual out of all hoyo-games. That’s just a fact.

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     • Powercreep isn’t a major problem in any of the Hoyoverse games, even HSR you can very much still use 1.0 units
       In terms of relic systems: ZZZ -> Genshin -> HSR

       HSR requires 2 different set bonuses with no off piece or flexibility, you also need 4 variable main stats, it was the first of the games to introduce main stat selectors though so that’s nice, the game also gives out plenty of the materials to craft relics. You get 6 relic runs per 24 hours and 4 bonus planar runs per week

       Genshin has an off piece which is nice, and you only need 3 variable main stats. However you can’t select the piece you want to craft unless you use a very rare resource, so crafting costs less but you only have a 1/5 chance to get the piece you want, you only get about 4 and 1/2 artifact runs per 24 hours
       ZZZ gives you space for a 4 piece and 2 piece combined set, but is flexible unlike HSR, and since every character wants 2 sets farming becomes very efficient. Crafting gives you the option to either get random pieces like Genshin or spend more to pick your piece, but that’s still cheaper than HSR (also scrapping levelled disks returns some of your dennies) Something great about ZZZ is sub-stats aren’t variable, so your crit piece will never be ruined by low rolls, also you can roll. You get 5 + 1/3 (since tin master special got buffed) runs per day

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       • im pretty sure hsr is known for its absurd powercreep of older units
         and zzz seems to be heading the same way, or at least powercreeping all 1.0 units when every new release is the new BiS for previous teams

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   • Imagine having a life and not spending your time hating on Genshin players.

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     • waifuseless

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   • better get back on your studies kiddo. The future’s looking bleak with that grammar skill.

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6. Can Xilonen work on these two teams?
   1- Clorinde – Furina – Nahida – Xilo.
   2- Hu Tao – Furina – Xianyun – Xilo.

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   • Both of these teams should work, though may not be the most optimal uses for her. Just remember that Xilonen does not interact with Dendro or Anemo at all, and that her heal is for the currently active party member and not team-wide, so things could potentially get dicey with Furina if you’re not careful. Not a problem on your second team since you’re also running Xianyun, but then you’re also running 2 healers. There may be a better option for team wide damage, but Hu Tao vape teams can be annoying to swirl both elements, so Xilonen will make it at least easier to make sure both Hu Tao and Furnia are buffed.

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     • Understood. Thank you so much.
       I’m aware that those aren’t her top teams (theoretically at least), and I only asked about them, because they look fun, and I was wondering what a dendro and/or anemo character would do with Xilonen’s samplers passive.

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   • Work? Yes, absolutely, both teams would be strong enough to clear most end-game content without much difficulty. Would she be optimised? Not so much. Xilo’s healing is single target so Furina won’t maximise fanfare very quickly (nor get the full Salon bonus), and crystallising both Electro and Hydro (for Cinder City) would be difficult (if not impossible) as dendro would eat the hydro aura and geo+electro-charge results in electro reacting, and Xilo wouldn’t provide any shred or bonus to Nahida at all.
     Team 2 would have a similar crystallise issue and you’d need a tight rotation to get both Cinder City and VV on Furina (it’s more doable, tho) and with that much healing you’ll be missing out on Hu Tao’s low HP bonuses (though this matters less if you don’t have Homa).
     If you just want to clear stuff and chill with a pretty team you’ll be fine, but if you want maximised damage speed clears platinum medals 420 blaze it then you can do better. For team 1 I’d swap Xilo for Barbara (Noblesse and Thrilling Tales, ER/HP/HB) so she can burst immediately after Furina for maximised Fanfare and a big attack bonus (I use this combo with Navia and enemies evaporate). Less sure on team 2 since I don’t use Hu Tao and don’t have Xianyun… but probably Xiangling, since it’s always Xiangling.

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   • She basically works on any team that has 2 PECH characters (pyro/electro/cryo/hydro) as long as one of the PECH characters is your main damage dealer. So she doesn’t work great with Xiao or Navia for instance because they are not PECH and they are both main damage.

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     • She does work with Navia. She has three samples so if you have Xilo, Navia, then 2 PECH one of the samplers will remain Geo for Navia. And Navia benefits from 2 PECH as well. Xilo is likely going to be Navia’s best support.

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     • She works great with Navia. Geo sample is active by default so with 2 other pech characters in the team she will buff them and geo at the same time. Please read the skills before posting misinformation.

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7. What are you talking about ? Her skill literally states it affects all nearby enemies so it’s not limited to 1 person, on top of that her set makes her able to give 40 percents dmg bonus along the 36 AOE res shread she gives in her base kit

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8. Still too soon to say anything but from what we know I don’t see the value of Xilonen C0.
   With or without her Sig weapon not much different, and F2P may not pull for weapon. While her skill are single target, that mean she’s shred RES on single target.
   Currently I see C0 actual do nothing. What a money grabbing strategy, wonder in the future of the game where you have to pull for c6 for playable characters…
   What ya opinions guys? Does C0 actual do anything for you?

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   • Xilonen’s Shred works on nearby opponents, not just the opponent she hits. If I recall, someone said it has the same range as Ganyu’s burst.

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   • “When the Source Samples are active, nearby opponents’ corresponding Elemental RES will decrease.” It is not single target, and she can hold Cinder City (for the full +40% damage bonus), and she can heal, all in a single slot.

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   • It says nearby opponents, not hit opponents

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   • Most literate genshin player

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     • Better than than the one don’t have enough braincells.

       It’s will be good if it’s true as a comment above “Xilonen’s Shred works on nearby opponents, not just the opponent she hits. If I recall, someone said it has the same range as Ganyu’s burst.”

       But let me remind ya, we have no characters that can shred RES without touching them. “Nearby” is what they says, it is too generic.

       Now I bet with ya all, she’s single target RES shred.

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       • have u seen the early access video? see on youtube, you will see if u wrong or no

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       • We do have character that shred RES without touching, Zhongli.

         His E description:
         “Characters protected by the Jade Shield will decrease the Elemental RES and Physical RES of opponents in a small AoE by 20%”

         Videos from content creators that got early access also state that she shred nearby opponents

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       • If she was single target, it’d say she reduces the res of opponents she hits not “nearby”
         Not to mention any competent private server showcaser would be screaming about it

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       • Zhongli does. You just have to be shielded and nearby opponent res are shred. You don’t need to hit them with either geo wave when putting shield nor pillar. Pillar is just their to be annoying and for TotM 4p buff effect.

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         • TotM is just there to trigger an effect when pillar hits*
           friendly reminder that the set came out 6 months after the release of zhongli (and his consequent buff/rework due to how bad he was on release)

         • pillar really is there to be annoying
           im actually still salty about zhongli buff from way back, he used to be able to make a shield without summoning the pillar. now you need c2 and use his burst to get the shield with no pillar.

       • You just literally scream how low IQ you are or just tryhard doompost huh?

         “we have no characters that can shred RES without touching them”

         Zhongli Say hello.

         And seriously, you don’t see an S in oppenent”S” ? By default S mean more then one and literally just as Sauce kun said, if she do only one opponent (which I don’ really know why it gonna be that case) we should already heard or seen some leaker complain about it.

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       • So… how do you think zl shield res shred works? by touching foes?

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       • congrats you just proved his point lol

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       • She has res shred like Zhongli. She doesn’t need to keep hitting targets. VV is an active res shred as is Deepwood and geo resonance. Zhongli is the only passive res shred until Xilonen. Thus, we can also assume she is passively res shredding even across waves, as is presented in content creator server.

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   • You mistake her kit. Her res shred is passive once the sampler aura is active. With that, she has around a 10m radius of res shred around her. The res shred works like Zhongli’s shield. So she is multi-target, multi-wave res shredder which is valuable especially for long uptime dps carries, long infusions, and with dpses that obliterate a wave early on in their dps window, like with Raiden.

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   • “JustaDvmbPlayer” there, fixed that for ya 👍

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   • wow bro, you got every single thing incorrect. Maybe next time like read properly or better yet just shut the fuck up?

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9. Each character with an element counts towards a source sample; there can be duplicates.

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10. I keep seeing that Xilonen, Navia, XL, and Bennet would be a strong team. But doesn’t Xilonen at C0 need another element besides pyro to activate the resistance shred to enemies?

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    • nope! you just need two of a PECH element

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    • nope, just 2 elements that react with geo and you get the res shred, c2 is needed for navia to get the geo shred, but she’s still a navia buff due to the cinder city artifact set giving dmg bonus to geo and pyro

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      • The geo shred will activate in a double geo team if you have 2 PECHs in your team. The first sentence in her C2 is aimed for triple geo and Xianyun double geo plunge teams, where you cannot activate her A1 passive to gain Nightsoul points.

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      • c2 is not needed for navia to get the geo shred, 2 samples will be pyro and the other one will be geo

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    • No, it can be 2 of the same element

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    • Two pyro characters = Two source samples changed = Res shred

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      • Two source samples = onika
        Res shred = burger
        Two source samples Res shred = onika burger 💜

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