707 responses to “Mavuika”

1. crazy how mhy will nerf arlecchino range after 6 patches bc of mavuika, they learned nothing from neuvilette situation

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   • That was debunked to be false. Don’t jump on conclusion too fast.

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2. This place is pretty dead compared to previous popular characters or Archons. She so boring that doom posters just give up and leave her alone in a ditch. Even I feel like beating a dead horse writing this.

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   • OhhHhH sHe ıS nOt A sUpPoRt aaaaa rİoT

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     • you can make fun of others but she will fall off in 6 months (i mean its a dps) and what about when the new region comes and by chance we get a real pyro off field? She will become irrelevant. Just look how much furina transformed the game, her power budget either sup of dps were killed due to her getting the universal traversal. If that was removed, hoyo would be forced to make her more archony

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   • I agree. I loved this place precisely because of the colorful comments and miss them dearly. Simps, doom posters, and other unhinged fellows: where are you??

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3. is there hope that she will receive any buffs? the beta is ending

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   • No, there’s not. Beta is over, last change was in V5 and it was a little of text changes to Lanyan.

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4. I’m done with Hoyo’s arbitrary design choices. Just give me a decent toy to play with kit-wise and my overinvested 4* supports/buffers will substitute as the “Constellation Fixes” that they keep trying to sell off. Intentions are to throw her into a C6 Chevreuse Overload w/e team and completely ignore her Natlan-gated functionality altogether.
   It’s just her outfit, man…I can’t get over it. Seems like something that could’ve been a special skin for her instead.

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   • If you’re willing to use Ororon on that team he’s a fantastic teammate for it.

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     • Yap. That’s another thing to goof around with, especially with Kujou Sara + Chevreuse/Bennett, etc. Satisfying nukes.
       Curious to see how Iansan will perform with that group.

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5. Help understand something.

   She is like Raiden but her off field ability is not as good as Raiden or Xianling, yet she is still good as off field?

   I want to use her with mualani and that’s it. I get that Citlali is her BiS but I’m not pulling cryo characters until Zarina. So, is ok if just pair her with Mualani?

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   • Her pyro application is enough for Mualani as long as you don’t have Furina in the team stealing vapes.

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   • It’s possible she does not apply enough pyro for Mualani to vape all hits

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   • nothing to do with raiden
     yes you can use with mualani

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   • most people wish she was xl powercreep but her damage even off field stil VERY good

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   • Her off-field is good http://youtube.com/post/Ugkxmq4CDwtO_LkIsoQoFLs2i2i6ZtV0lswk?si=DYY45JAq0qhZdT4o

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   • Like Raiden, Mavuika has a nuke Burst that relies on teammates and an off-field E.

     Unlike Raiden, Mavuika:
     – any one Natlan teammate and she can get at least ~150 points for her Burst, and either one of Xilonen or Citlali can provide more than 100 points (enough to max the burst since Mavuika provides 90 points herself) if you do it right;
     – her E is slower (2s/hit) and does not have infinite uptime, but deals decent damage, applies pyro every hit, and is automatic and does not require you to damage enemies. (this will be enough for Mualani, but only Mualani)

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     • Would PMC have sufficient off-field pyro application for Mualani? Infinitely cheaper than Mavuika since they’re essentially free.

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6. Thoughts on Wolfs Gravestone for her if I don’t get lucky to pull for her weapon?

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   • it’s a good option, yes.

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   • Will look sick on her I bet

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   • her application is good as nahida? (excluding the fact that its nots 100% uptime like nahida)
     i saw her skill have 2 sec cooldown and nahida 2.5 sec

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7. gooner bait

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   • Literally her whole design

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   • And then they will say “Theres barely any skin showwwnnn”. Like her design literally scream to focus on her exposed honkers with wide open and huge ass zippers. If that is not enough, her brust animation makes it clear. Other parts of her design just lackluster even her bike concept is just low-effort copy of “bike == cool kids” trope. Maybe stop and think about their design choice instead of being defensive the moment you hear the word “Goon”.

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   • Don’t care + I’m plapping away

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   • this exist in all hoyo games it is not news

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     • gooners pretending gooning is normal behaviour it is not news

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       • no one said is normal, I just said is common

         have a lot of things that we know that are common but not normal

         the iliteracy you have is one of these things, common but not normal too

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       • The OP comment was a critique about the characters design in Hoyo games you dumbass.

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   • rage bait

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8. I just want her tap E skill for off field has 100% uptime, i don’t really care about her restricted team comp or something. Or she will get power creep by 5-7 version later. Or Nightsoul reliant for her burst. Will i pull her whether her E skill will change or not? Yes, since i will collect all Archon Character anyway.

   But i can see where some people coming from, on which people hope Mavuika new way of game play or comp. Well long an behold she has very restricted team comp, i can see why they mad but once again personally i don’t really care about that.

   By the end of the day, Hoyoverse rarely listen to their player especially about character kit. It’s pretty much set in stone, is it disappointing? Yes, but what can we do since the majority of genshin players are casual player that won’t care about this kind of stuff.

   Yes, i know it should not be normalized but once again as long majority of players don’t care and don’t make a significant move Hoyo won’t change their way, if it’s really bothers you, i personally think you really need to stop playing the game. No hate just for your goodness.

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   • they have that fixed, just need c1

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     • Hoyo with their greed mann. When was the last time an Archon need con to have 100% uptime.

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     • “Roll more, peasant” isn’t a fix.

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   • “By the end of the day, Hoyoverse rarely listen to their player especially about character kit”

     are you drunk girl? wtf are you saying

     “really listen to their player”? when? what? to do retard things like “Petting animals”? what about the huge amount of issues the game has, and they don’t give a fk? for reruns, for which they just fool around and create a clear FOMO?
     especially kit? do you think they read feedbacks on reddit and adjust what’s not good? or do you think they made neuvillette OP as hell because they read people stating it prior release?

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     • Read the first line you quoted again… slowly…

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     • i mean thats obvious…they get money either way why should they care about the players. that plant who cried during their ceremony for pity points. they admitted to all the allegations then said “no you guys dont know how much we work to improve the game”, they think players are dumb af 4 yrs late we are getting QoL only now and most if not all is just ported from their other games. They never cared and never will, look at deya or sigwin then look at xilo and arlech, they can make good characters but but they dont give af, never will

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   • they pay beta testers to hear their feedback , not random players writing reddit posts from their sofa on their phone.

     And also they make the game. If they dont want a xiangling replacement thats what we will get. They are making the game not you

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   • Actaully, Mavuika would create a new type of gameplay or at least continue it to better extent, that others haven’t really discussed.
     It was started by Raiden, and this gameplay that would be re-introduced is the dual dps/carry comps. It started with Eula-Raiden and Dehya-Raiden overload.

     When you consider how Mavuika would be played, you’re either gonna be fast-forwarding the FS gauge of her burst with Xilonen E twice in the rotation, first at beginning, and second midway through, or using a third Natlan character like Citlali to fill the gauge to full since Mavuika tap E + Xilonen E is giving 170 nightsoul points. That isn’t nearly enough for a full 200 FS burst. So counting in Mavuika and XIlonen EN2, you would need 27 nightsoul points left.

     That’s where I consider a dual carry to come in. While you would have 3 Natlanese characters to fully max the FS gauge, you could opt for a dual carry team for double Natlan character teams, and have another carry cover for the 12s of when Mavuika tap E is used to gain 80 FS. Her downtime is bigger compared to other carries and her duration is shorter. She has same duration and cooldown on burst as Raiden.

     The idea here is to use her downtime to go onto another carry while her tap E is active. That way, her off-field skill has a purpose outside the spending of nightsoul points and applying pyro for rotation setups. Rather than just using one side of her kit, you use both. It’s like how Raiden in overload has her skill to apply electro and refresh overload debuff on Chevreuse teams while Dehya is punching away in her burst. But in Mavuika’s case, you would use her tap-skill to apply pyro to enemies and enable reactions for the other carry, or use an on-field dps to enable so Mavuika’s tap-skill triggers reactions like vape, overload, or melt.

     Dual DPS is a rare archetype. Very few characters possess both on and off-field elemental application and serve as a dps and off-field applicator in the team.

     What’s missing is a general teamwide atk buffer so that dual carries can benefit from atk buffs since beyond snapshotters, Bennett is a selfish atk buffer, meaning buffing a selfish DPS or hypercarry. Someone to distribute 1k atk among the team would allow dual dps teams to better operate. That’s the missing puzzle from a dual carry team for Mavuika. Bennett is so good, and there ain’t a flexible Chevreuse to buff atk for the likes of two main dpses on a team.

     I’m cooking here

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9. Mavuika looks to be pretty solid for off-field if you are restricted for her on-field dps teams. I believe the Hoyo devs handled her off-field kit fairly well. No, she is not a direct one-for-one Xiangling replacement and that is fine. People want her to be one but that poses a threat to her validity in using Cinder City.

   I’ve tried using Cinder City on Xiangling, and yes, she is inconsistent in being a trigger for pyro reactions. Her pyro app is so strong the other element usually follows suit. Only 1.0 characters or having two characters of the reacting element is capable of keeping the more dominant aura. Cinder City giving pyro and dendro dmg bonuses would only happen via burgeon, not so much with burning with a pyro Cinder City set holder. It’s also not gonna happen in melt either unless you trigger forward melt at beginning of setup or reverse vape.

   Cinder City is another breed of VV double swirl setup clunkiness. It’s a set best rendered to characters of geo, anemo, dendro or electro since geo and anemo are always the triggers for their respective reactions, electro can coexist with other elements on equal grounds (electro-charged’s equal aura consumption for both electro and hydro), and dendro with dendro coexisting aura in quicken, being weaker element in burning, and having weaker application in bloom.

   This is pretty much the Raiden-Beidou scenario again. The prior on-field dps archon sacrifficed synergy with a character to have better synergy with an artifact set, and same here, the pyro on-field dps archon sacrifices synergy with other characters to have better synergy with an artifact set.

   I also think Mavuika is gonna have good synergy and more flexibility with Ororon and Pyro Traveler. Pyro Traveler’s standard ICD and rate of pyro application makes them more likely the trigger of a pyro reaction than that of another element. A longer duration and more pyro app on Mavuika renders the chances of triggering a pyro related reactions to be more difficult and you’d basically have to have it occur by chance post-setup. Idea is to not end a rotation with pyro as a remaining aura, so that the next rotation can begin with the other elemental aura for Mavuika to apply pyro on and retrigger Cinder City again.

   If Furina could use Cinder City full ability, whats the chances that she can trigger it from second rotation onward since hydro remains on the enemy with her really long uptime? What happens is in that case, Cinder City 4pc set effect would need to be re-triggered during the rotation post-setup which is a negative for characters that snapshot.

   So while Mavuika’s on-field role is restrictive and glued to Xilonen, her off-field role isn’t as bad as people suggest. It seems people want to lose consistency of the value of Cinder City to replace Xiangling, which I understand if people were clear about it. Having No ICD for a character that would use Cinder City makes Cinder City clunky. Being a trigger of an elemental reaction is much easier with standard ICD.

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   • A reasonable take, I must say. I’ll admit I leaned towards the doomposting side of things near the start/middle of beta, but I’ve come around to her Off-field capability as I analyzed the position of Pyro units and Cinder City viability. Archon Betas are a hell of a drug, I gotta try to stay strong next time 🙁

     I think she has just enough to offer to keep herself strong without sacrificing her kit to replace XL entirely. It’s just like Furina, the “lesser” application is not only acceptable (having a mobile trio of Hydro turrets is god tier even with slightly slower application speed), but actually helps out with specific team setups (Furina is great for Quickbloom since she doesn’t mess up Quicken auras as much).

     I will say that the Cinder City 2pc being useless on her burst will always mess with me, but thats just me being a perfectionist ;3

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   • Oh brother, just say she can use Cinder City instead of writing a 500 words paragraph. You forget to mention her off-field skill is not guaranteed 100% uptime, gonna left some info to advertise your waifu I guess. Also, my boi Ororon won’t work well with her as he only use his nightsoul point when enemies are wet and spicy (Electrocharged) which Mavuika will destory with overload. Moreover, Ororon usually carry CC, so yeah, Mavuika just an awkward side grade in his teams cuz CC buff don’t stack.

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     • I appreciate the essay. Spells it out for idiots like me.

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     • I love to be the one to tell you this: Ororon works just fine with Mavuika. Nightsoul aligned attacks also trigger his Hypersense, as an alternative to Electro-Charged.

       I’ve tested it with Kachina and Chasca with no Hydro present on the battle field, works like a charm.

       You are correct about the uptime issue and CC not stacking though, unless they stealth buff her skill before release.

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       • i want to hear from you after her banenr has ended and the inital hype is gone, she will be fun intially but outside dmg per screenshot you will forget her real fast.

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     • Ororon only needs electrocharge if there is no Natlan character present in the team. His talent states either electrocharge or nightsoul-aligned damage, since Mavuika can deal nightsoul-aligned damage, Ororon’s talent should still be able to be activated

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     • Damn it, I was wrong about EC part. Was having fun with his EC that I forgot about that NightSoul Aligned part exist. My bad

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   • Oh, please. The Raiden-Beidou synergy didn’t require sacrifce, it is one case of Hoyo not wanting the game to be cheesed. That’s why they made Childe and Alhaitham harder to build than most characters.

     She is terrible for off-field use, she requires C2 and, even with that, she won’t be as good as C6 Xiangling.

     Also, CC will be a waste in teams that use Xilonen and Ororon due tothemr being better for it and that it cannot stack

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10. So er stat is useless and they made her broken in natlan patch but easily powercrept after natlan… this is Fontaine’s awful arche mechanic x 10…

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