88 responses to “Лаума”

1. team nefer-lauma-aino-nilou
   Nefer with Blackmarrow Lantern R5, Night of the Sky’s Unveiling, 4 54.5 cv artifacts, Crit DMG Circlet and 1224 em total
   Lauma with Etherlight Spindlelute R5, Deepwood Memories, 1388 em
   Aino with Silken Moon’s Serenade
   Nilou with Serenity’s Call R5, 69058 HP

   Nefer’s Phantasm Performance 3-Hit DMG (Shade) deals 119601 DMG(crit)

   Team nefer-nahida-aino-nilou
   Nefer with Blackmarrow Lantern R5, Night of the Sky’s Unveiling, 4 54.5 cv artifacts, Crit DMG Circlet and 1224 em total
   Nahida with Prototype Amber R5, Deepwood Memories
   Aino with Silken Moon’s Serenade
   Nilou with Serenity’s Call R5, 69058 HP

   Nefer’s Phantasm Performance 3-Hit DMG (Shade) deals 87809 DMG(crit)(-31792 compared to lauma)

   Team nefer-kirara-aino-nilou
   Nefer with Blackmarrow Lantern R5, Night of the Sky’s Unveiling, 4 54.5 cv artifacts, Crit DMG Circlet and 1224 em total
   Kirara with Serenity’s Call R5, Deepwood Memories
   Aino with Silken Moon’s Serenade
   Nilou with Serenity’s Call R5, 69058 HP

   Nefer’s Phantasm Performance 3-Hit DMG (Shade) deals 66193 DMG(crit) (-53408 compared to lauma)

   Nefer NEEDS Lauma(44.66% dmg difference on biggest hit) more than Flins needs Ineffa(17.18% dmg difference on biggest hit)
   (flins-ineffa-aino-kazuha team, no gacha weapons)

   (all data if from my quick testing in the GI Damage Calculator)
   (don’t blame me if anything is wrong)

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2. what are the min max of the talents? ik you should crown the skill but what abt normals and burst? do they get 6 8 or 9/10? wanna save mora

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   • skill has res shred for hydro and dendro with 2.5% increase per skill lvl so at lvl 10 she gives 25%

     burst gives bloom, hyperbloom, burgeon and lunar-bloom dmg increase based on her EM and burst lvl
     499.97% of EM for bloom, hyperbloom and burgeon
     400.03% of EM for lunar-bloom

     and you can ignore her normal attack lvl

     in summary skill and burst should be as high as possible with priority on skill

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3. idk if someone wrote it here but it seems like Lauma has additional 200 base EM (source another website that i won’t name)

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   • random bullshit from random braindead/troll posting then
     these stats are standard, and no powercreep will give a chara 200em like that
     especially her to her kit, which is busted already

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     • its been confirmed by IWinToLose on yt shorts that at lvl 90 she has 315 base EM

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   • She doesn’t but the event weapon we get from Luna 1 main event does give 200 em at R5. Maybe that person misremembered it.

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   • I want to hear this character’s damage voice.
     Why can’t I hear it?

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4. My current bloom team is more than enough, even hyperbloom or burgeon. I have full build solely dedicated to bloom reaction Nilou, Nahida, Kokomi and Baizhu (literally pull these two for bloom team), traveler dendro, c6 kuki and thoma. Easily clear end-game content that need this reaction.

   but damn them bewbie on Lauma is so tempting!
   probably able to increase dmg output by another 20% at most if I have her, but damn again… them bewbie is worth pulling for!

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   • The additive bonus from her burst alone improves bloom damage by ~20%; it has a limited trigger count, which is quickly consumed in AoE but has near 100% coverage for hyperbloom.

     Her bloom crit is a 15% improvement, or 12.5% in a team with c2 Nahida.

     Her res shred is a bit overkill when deepwood already exists, but valuable nontheless due to the scarcity of dendro res shred sources, and brings at minimum ~11% more damage (against 10% res enemies). The total of 55% res shred can also allow you to forcibly bring down some high-res enemies (e.g., consecrated beasts, natlan pillar bot boss).

     Combined they improve bloom damage by ~25% without burst, up to ~50% with full burst coverage.

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     • so it’s only 12.5% chance of CRIT if with nahida c2? and I heard from someone if there is two nod Krai char in the party (let’s include lauma and aino in this case) the crit will be zero? idk if this true or not cuz I didn’t understand either after read all the ascend passive of them

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       • Nahida c2 gives 20% crit and 100% cdmg, which translates to +20% average damage. Similar for Lauma’s 15% crit, it makes bloom 15% stronger by itself. Their crit rates stack, resulting in a total of 35% crit, which is 35% stronger than no crit at all, and 12.5% stronger than 20% crit (1.35/1.2 = 1.125).

         A second NK member does disable her bloom crit. At this moment Aino has no advantage over other hydros; the only forseeable caveats are that you cannot have both bloom crits and play lunarbloom damage (Nefer?), and that traditional bloom Lauma might not be able to take advantage of whatever Columbina brings.

         Mind that Lauma’s 25%~50% improvement to bloom is when compared to a character who brings very little buff and only applies elements, such as dendro Traveller, or Baizhu/Yaoyao if you can survive without them. The difference will be smaller if she replaces a strong buffer or someone with decent personal damage. A c0 Nahida doesn’t exactly buff bloom, but she has the best dendro application (which only Lauma comes close to) and ok damage.

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5. so is she better than c2 Nahida?

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   • Short answer is yes, C0 Lauma better than a C2 Nahida.

     Long Answer:

     While Lauma is able to outright replace Nahida as the primary dendro unit on Bloom teams, Nahida is actually a strong choice for a secondary unit on those teams.

     From how I see it, Lauma is primarily a support character. Her raw damage is low (especially after personal Lunar-Bloom damaged was heavily nerfed earlier in the beta) and her dendro application is only decent. However, her burst massively boosts Bloom (including Nilou’s bountiful cores) Hyperbloom, Burgeon, and Lunar Bloom.

     Nahida is a hybrid Sub-DPS/Support character. Her raw damage is good (similar to Mauvika’s off-field skill damage). For support, she has very good dendro application and her burst gives a nice boost to EM for the active character.

     Back in 3.X, the base damage of the Bloom reactions were enough that Nahida was able to function as the sole dendro characters for such teams. But stating in 4.0 that started to no longer be the case.

     I believe that Mihoyo intends for Lauma to be compliment to Nahida rather than an outright replacement, since they cover each other’s weaknesses quite effectively. I think this will be true for both Lunar-bloom teams as well as the normal bloom variants.

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6. Team Plans:
   1 — C6R1 Nahida, C6 Kuki (R2 Xyphos), C3R0 Furina (R1 Key of KN), C1R0 Lauma (R5 Craftable); I plan on C0 to start, if I succeed her first 50/50 then I’ll go for C1. Lauma’s sigweap I’ll skip until her rerun since I need to hold funds from C2R1 Columbina.

   2 — C6 Ororon (R1 Thundering Pulse), C0R0 Ineffa (Scarlet Sands), C3R1 Furina (R1 Key of KN), C1R0 Lauma (R5 Craftable); this team is what I will use to test Moonsign: Ascendant Gleam’s effects on Lauma to see if buffing her Lunar Bloom will be more beneficial than keeping her on a Moonsign: Nascent Gleam team, non-Lunar Dendro reactions. This will also help test the benefits of the new artifact sets at both Moonsign levels. Ineffa would have to take an on-field DPS role since she’ll be holding Night of Sky’s Unveiling and it seems to only trigger when on-field.

   I have no plans to pull Flins or Nefer, I only want the Lunar supports so they can help my existing characters stand a fighting chance in NodKrai, I couldn’t care less for Lunar DPS units. Columbina may be a Lunar DPS, so she’d be the only one I pull in this region.

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   • thats a retarded team

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7. Yall consider Nilou its most a MUST with Lauma?? I like her concept of being a support of all bloom reactions since most of my units are dendro/electro/hydro, but since her biggest damage boost goes to normal Bloom, to run such team it’s Nilou a complete must or it would be optional with other alternatives?

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   • Lauma’s best team is Hyperbloom actually. She is a buff for Nilou teams which is a good thing (and becomes one of the BiS characters for Nilou team) but Hyperbloom is still better than Nilou team (Raiden Lauma Yelan Xingqiu did 109k DPS which is currently the best that i have seen?? while Nilou Lauma team did around 90k DPS) the numbers might be off but the Hyperbloom team is still better.

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     • Nilou strongly prefers multitarget, due to blooms being AoE and having quadratic scaling, and additional enemies causes higher dendro core generation rate. The fact that Nilou came close to hyperbloom in ST says something about her power.

       On the other hand, hyperbloom does the best against 1 or 2 targets. The damage is largely single-target – though more targets improve core generation, only up to 5 cores can exist at the same time, and the current fastest trigger (Raiden) attacks every 1s, meaning hyperbloom damage is limited to a total of 5 hits/s – too many enemies will disperse this damage.

       There isn’t a real fair environment to compare the two archetypes in, as despite both focus on bloom, each has the other’s weakness as their strength.

       Lauma’s weapon having higher normal bloom dmg bonus is to compensate for normal bloom’s lower base damage, and bloom having no dedicated trigger unit.

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8. my team(nilou,nahida c2, xingq, yao2) died quite often from bloom self damage.. and now they buff bloom like no tomorow!
   maybe nahida and lauma not supposed to be together on team?

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   • solution. lauma c1

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9. mommy with big booba? sign me in

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   • sybau moid

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10. My thoughts on Lauma:

    This druid is looking like to be the most compelling character out of all of the 6.0 characters for me. This is due to her reviving the bloom and it’s archetypes, allowing this team archetype to regain viability. Here is how I feel she does with 3 main variants:

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    Bountiful Cores
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    Nilou massively gets buffed, to the point that she will become the new best Sumeru character. Lauma solidifies her teams as being the best overall in AOE, while dramatically increasing single target damage to be more comparable (if not exactly surpassing) what most Natlan and Fontaine based teams are capable of doing.

    Because Nilou’s teams are the most susceptible to bloom-self damage, I feel that Kokomi becomes the best hydro on-field driver for these teams, since she can easily apply hydro and heal her team at the same time. In my opinion this will be Kokomi’s most meta-relevant team (once again!).

    Nahida is in a weird spot, since she technically got power-crept by Lauma in bloom. However, she can still give assistance as a offensive oriented 2nd dendro teammate, thanks to her personal damage and very high dendro application. In addition, the EM boost from her elemental burst will get the most use in Nilou bloom teams since the onfield is most likely to be triggering the bountiful cores.

    If Lauma is not at C2, or if Kokomi is not being used, then Baizhu becomes the best 2nd dendro teammate due to his healing and shields. Yao Yao could also be used, but she is less flexible due to needing more on field time for her burst healing to work properly.

    Aino and Xingqi should be the best 4* hydro characters for these teams.

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    Hyperbloom
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    As the best overall Hyperbloom trigger, Kuki Shinobu gets heavily buffed by Lauma as well. Lauma + Kuki will make for a strong Hyperbloom duo, and will give a lot of flexibility on who can be used for the final two spots.

    Most hydro units work well with Hyperbloom.

    Alhaitham will get some usage again as a on-field driver, and Cyno to a lesser extent. Raiden Shogun will be the second best off-field electro unit if Kuki is not being used.

    Not much to say here since Hyperbloom is the most popular bloom variant and the teammates are quite well known.

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    Burgeon
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    Burgeon (which I am the most familiar with since I have a burgeon team) also gets buffed quite a bit, but it still the weakest of the 3 bloom variants. This is partially due to the possibility of burning, which is a bad reaction (compared to quicken for Hyperbloom) and partially due to Burgeon not having a dedicated off-field trigger (like Kuki is for Hyperbloom).

    Thoma is the best off-field trigger of Burgeon, but has several flaws (shield scales on HP, not EM, he needs to use his elemental burst to use his off-field pyro, and normal attacks are need by the on-fielder to triggers the effects). Nonetheless, Thoma gets buffed due to Burgeon getting buffed.

    Pyro Traveler is the next best off-field trigger for Burgeon, and has the advantage of not requiring energy and of the off-field attacks not requiring normal attacks. But they doesn’t offer any defensive utility at all, and they has up-time issues. However, as I expect the Pyro traveler to be pushed out of their other teams by 6.X units, I expect that Burgeon will end up being the Pyro traveler’s best team.

    Since Burgeon teams tend to have at least some burning, Emilie could be used as a strong 2nd Dendro option to take advantage, and provide very strong raw off-field Dendro damage.

    Strong hydro application will be needed. Ayato and Childe have their limitations, but they could be strong on-fielders due to them working with Thoma (they both use normal attacks) and having strong application that should be able to make Dendro cores (and doing forward vapes on burning enemies when they occur). Xingqi would be the best off-field hydro character due to his high hydro application.

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    Of course, Lauma’s best team should involved Lunar Bloom, but that won’t be viable until she gets a Lunar Bloom main DPS to pair up with (whom will almost certainly will be Nefer).

    I’m looking forward to seeing how the community uses Lauma when she finally gets released.

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    • Lauma gains healing at C1 which, when built properly, is not far behind a Kokomi using E only.

      Other than healers, Kaveh is also an option for surviving bloom self-damage, as he heals himself upon being damaged by bloom, and can result in net HP gain if he has enough EM. Lauma’s turret particle generation also help with Kaveh’s energy needs.

      Nahida’s C2 bloom crit rate stacks with Lauma’s – a whooping 35% – which also means heavier self-damage. IMO this duo is best used in hyperbloom, where spread can occur due to Lauma supplementing dendro. Otherwise Nahida and Lauma can also stand in for each other, in case you somehow desperately need two teams with dendro appliers (similar to Xingqiu & Yelan situation).

      Aino (and probably Columbina, who is rumoured to be hydro) should not be teammed with Lauma, due to the increased moonsign level replaces Lauma’s bloom crits (on lvl.1, by herself) with lunar-bloom crits (lvl.2); unless you intend to play lunar-bloom, for which you need an appropriate DPS.

      Cyno’s current best team is likely lunar-charged, where his EM and crits are all put to use, and Ineffa’s effects having 20s uptime. Lauma’s effect durations are relatively short (15s) and you will need to either end Cyno’s ult prematurely, or the buffs won’t last through his ult.

      Burgeon has burning to complicate thing, but like you have said one can use it to their advantage or find ways to avoid burning.
      Lauma’s dendro application (1U/2s) is weaker than Nahida’s (1.5U/2.5s), which means Lauma will be slightly better at burgeon due to less hydro required to remove her dendro aura.
      Emilie’s extra dendro will tip the team towards burning.

      Currently the ones best at taking advantage of forward vape are Mualani (who can vape 100% of her damage) and Furina (can vape over 60%, from off-field). Mualani is not an option as she applies so little hydro that barely any cores will be created, making it pointless to include Lauma. Furina allows for an on-field burgeon trigger, and also prefers having Emilie on team to make use of her DMG buff.

      PMC wants to use their Q to supplement nightsoul points; they can have up to 14s/18s of uptime. Mavuika works similarly, with better uptime.

      A weird option for trigger is Bennett+Anemo. Sunfire has a rather short uptime; The best Anemo for this purpose is Kazuha. He naturally builds EM, and can absorb an element into his E and Q, which Bennett’s Q can guarantee to be pyro. A C6 Bennett also allows Kazuha to trigger burgeon with NA first, then burst at the end for near 100% uptime.

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      • So I have C2 Nahida and I plan on pulling for at least C2 Lauma. The two teams I’m planning running Lauma in is the obvious nilou bloom team and the other is a Lunar-Charged/Lunar-Bloom team with Ineffa. For the first team, would you recommend Lauma to be on the new ER/EM artifact set, the EM/Crit set or should she hold Deepwood. If she’s holding Deepwood, what would you recommend Nahida hold since she’s my current DW holder?

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        • Lauma wants to burst off-cooldown so a bit of ER never hurts.
          Currently you’d only get 60 EM from Silken Moon’s Serenade, and the lunar reaction dmg is mostly useless; but this is the only 5* set that provides teamwide EM, and Lauma can consistently trigger it by virtue of having moonsign herself (the holder doesn’t have to be a nod-krai unit, but the team needs moonsign levels to trigger SMS).
          Compared to Instructor, SMS provides less EM at moonsign lvl.1, but can be triggered from off-field and does not require the holder to trigger reaction.
          I’d say SMS is her best generalist set for now, and it will become her BIS if you plan on playing lunar-bloom (Nefer?).

          Nahida is still the best at triggering Deepwood, for having the longest-lasting and best-ranged skill – unless the enemies die in 1 hit and her E couldn’t keep up, but you wouldn’t really need DW then – and though it results in less personal damage than Gilded Dream, her damage is not very important without spread. Lauma also shreds 25% dendro & hydro RES with her E, which is usually enough against enemies without RES mechanics (whose number are sadly increasing).

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    • well in my case as to ur curiousness about how people will use lauma…In my case i always tend to go for hyperbloom as it feels so satisfying to me seeing all 3 electro, hydro, and dendro elements dealing dmg that way plus, raiden being one of my favorites becoming relevant again because of lauma and all these new upcoming lunar reactions. I also it feel it can work with nefer when she releases as i am tempted to pull her and do some type of lauma, nefer, raiden, yelan team (columbina in the future hopefully)

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      • Does anyone have any insider info on the damage formula for Lunar-Bloom? I was looking at the tooltip for it or whatever and it was saying that it can crit like Lunar-Charged can. Could that mean the hydro and dendro damage are combined like hydro and electro are for Lunar-Charged? Also, would that mean direct Lunar-Bloom damage, ie Lauma’s C6 or the second hit of her Hold E, has some kind of multipler? Also does anyone have any theory crafting of what her ideal amount of EM would be? I do plan on pulling for weapon.

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        • Lunarbloom is basically the same as regular bloom, other than also generating verdant dew. No reaction causes LB damage; it only exists in talents.

          You can find all sorts of formulae here:
          https://homdgcat.wiki/gi/formulae

          Unfortunately they are all in Chinese so I’ll put the lunarbloom formula here:

          direct dmg = stat * scaling * (1 + base dmg bonus) * (1 + (6*EM/(EM+2000)) + LB dmg bonus)
          final damage = (direct dmg + additive bonus) * RES multiplier * Crit

          base dmg bonus: Lauma passive (14%)
          additive bonus: Lauma Q

          As for Lauma’s EM, I think the more the merrier, since everything in her kit scale off EM. She might want some Crit for her personal damage (like Nahida) but it’s probably negligible without her C6. Even her weapon has got no Crits.

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