184 responses to “시그윈”

1. In a rough spot my sige-winners… could pull for Baizhu cons, Wanderer C0, and then there’s even Furina cons coming soon. I usually like new units over constellation hunting, but I wish Sige’s kit was tied together a little better. A few well placed tweaks could push her over the “OK but ultimately niche” barrier.

   If they keep her current middling kit and throw Chevy on her phase instead of Clorinde’s just to draw people to her banner… I’m going to be so upset. I’m not even planning on pulling Clorinde but it’s such a typical Hoyo move at this point.

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2. Isnt she pretty good in Nilou triple hydro? Did I miss something?
   Siggy have teamwide heal off field
   Furina can just build crit
   Nahida full em can on field and make bloom by herself since the others are hydro
   And no, Kokomi can’t do that. With Kokok either you will have only active character healed and lost Furina dmg or on field koko and lost Nahihi Application also cause dmg lost

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   • As someone who’s been running triple Hydro Nilou Bloom since Nahida came out because I wanted her to be the driver, and started using Furina very soon after her own release, the problem with that team is very poor for consistent off-field hydro application.

     Even in that 3x hydro situation with KKM as the healer, the off-field hydro isn’t rapid enough to offset Nahida’s dendro spam. Unless she’s outright hugging an enemy with Nilou’s E3 aura *and* said enemy is in KKM’s jellyfish range, Nahida will very quickly become the one setting up aura first, and the non-EM hydros will be triggering the blooms for like 20kish instead of the almost 60k of a Nahida bloom crit.

     I love Sigewinne lots, but while her off-field healing is better than KKM’s due to it being partywide, her hydro application is even worse: dropping KKM’s jellyfish for Sigewinne’s bubble means the off-field hydro application speed for that team is almost zero. Nahida will easily overpower all three of them with her AA spam.

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     • How about replace Furina with XQ
       Nilou, XQ, KKM and Nahi used to be top speedrun so can Nilou, XQ, Siggy, Nahi at least comparable

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       • The hydro might be better like that because then it’s mostly XQ doing the work, but the particle gen from Sigewinne will be lower than KKM (unless using FavBow over KKM’s usual TTDS) so XQ might need a bit more ER than normal.

         Still possible/feasible though, perhaps.

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       • I’ve managed to prefarm everything for her so far except the common mob drop because hundreds and hundreds of those damn things, but I really don’t know what to start farming for her artifacts.

         As a healer with an offensive lean, the natural pick would be OHC, but Sige’s slow rate of healing means that the 4pc bubble pop is only going to have value from one, *maybe* two pulses of healing. Meanwhile SoDP is just generally a weaker OHC (though with the six second ‘charge’ time, maybe Sige would like the weak option better just because she can record more pulses per use).

         Alternatively, the only other thing I can think of would be 2pc/2pc with HP%/HP% or HP%/Hydro%. But 2pc/2pc never feels good over a full set effect.

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       • With the fact Sigewinne buffs the hits of off field E skill and that is Furina pets that would be a larger loss going to Xingqiu. Need to consider Furina pets still hits like a truck and can even out pace the damage Yelan with equal investment can do.

         I prefer a double hydro double dendro team so I can use a hydro to get ownership on the vast majority of all the blooms. Nilou, Barbara, Nahida, Baizhu. With Barbara on a full EM set her healing becomes too low to out heal self bloom damage so Baizhu picks up the healing and his burst makes you feel far more tanky too. Barbara E skill also has a fun interaction on applying hydro which allows me to stagger application between different enemies which allows to waste less bloom hits due to bloom ICD. I have been seeing over 86k blooms off my Barbara as a result and she gets 2/3 to 3/4ths ownership on all the blooms.

         As for Sigewinne I am thinking of building her for her elemental skill buff and making good use of that with Furina, Chiori, Yae Miko, etc. Today is the day that Baizhu rerun banner starts and I am about 210 wishes saved. I am skipping everything till Sigewinne so I will see how many wishes I got then.

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         • The main thing to remember there is that Sigewinne’s E damage buff only lasts for ten hits total, not per person. Each Furina’s three turrets would take up one of those hits every attack, and Nahida’s own E procs will chew through the rest. Even Nilou will steal some if she’s used after Sigewinne’s bubble comes out.

           At base C0, she caps at 2800 per hit, so across ten hits that’s an added 28000 damage. While that’s a nice chunky “crit” hit by DPS standards for basically free, it’s still possible/likely that a properly built Yelan/XQ outdoes it over the duration of a Q (like if fighting a beefy boss or domain) just due to how fast the team will eat Sigewinne’s stacks, which she can only reapply every 20 seconds minimum (18s for the CD plus the time to fully charge it).

           If getting C1, that makes it a bit more palatable, since that’s now a 3500 cap, and she gets eight extra uses of the buff, making the grand total a very respectable 63,000 damage for ‘free’, *if* one can get her to 65,000 HP. Doesn’t fix her poor hydro application rate and purely damage focused Burst, though.

3. Horrible! Why add such a bastard to the game?

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4. This character is, well, strange, that’s true. I don’t see a single reason to pull her despite she may be a good healer for Clorinde (but why should Clorinde need her?), but she’s definitely not useless. Can heal a lot and deal decent damage with ultimate. So I don’t see a single reason for spending primos, but maybe… And no, she’s definitely not Dehya in terms of power. At least she has only one scaling stat.

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   • “One scaling stat” but still has to decide between doing that “decent damage” or investing in her buff. She’s not like Nilou who can go full HP and lose nothing. If you go HP/DMG/Crit, her buff will suck. If you go triple HP, her Q is a DPS loss. Heck, even HP/HP/Crit isn’t good enough. I really hope they change that.

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5. I don’t care, she’s cute and legal, and I wanna make tons of babies with her.

   And this is a game, a way to escape reality. I’m tired from office works, and my irl wife also says its fine to enjoy what i like.

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   • erm what the sigma

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   • your wife disappear when you take the funny pills I reckon

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   • but its a damn slug

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   • Normally I’d say go outside but if Sigewinne is what you consider legal then please never do

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     • All the quadricentenarians better watch out, then

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   • I want to bleach my eyes after reading this. God why did I come here…

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6. They buffed her A1 scaling to 85 per 1000 and 2800 cap, but then they also changed her C1 to no longer give extra bounces and instead increase the A1 scaling further, to 100 per 1000, and cap of 3500.

   But that’s not really enough HP-per-100 to be feasible because they’re still asking for 65,000 HP to hit that cap. There are only two bows with HP% in the game, and one of them is going to be her signature, which has now gone from being a small QoL BiS to basically a needed BiS because the other HP% bow is a junk bow.

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   • Recurve Bow? 🙄

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     • Recurve gives 59% less HP than her sig, but besides that they both do nothing else if you’re trying to cap out her buff with 65k HP. If you actually care about the crit, you can just use a crit bow. Get anywhere close to 65k HP and her burst does crap damage, with no other utility besides damage.

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7. her kit doesn’t seem like support after all, maybe she is dps/healer like kokomi did

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8. so no new regarding this little freak? does her syringe wipe your ass out?

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