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1. Can c0 nahida be used as main dps? If yes, what would be the team composition?

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   • her multipliers are on the low side, so the benefit of using her as an on field character would be the amount of dendro that she may apply, and that information isn’t listed on the site. If she follows usual catalyst icd you can do 3 dendro applications really fast with normal atk -> charged -> E, which should do enough damage.

     But if the question is just if she can be used: any character can, really. Just slap your usual atk/dmg/crit and bring a bennett/xiangling/xingqiu or a anemo/yelan/xingqiu or anything that deals enough damage off field: fischl/beidou/anemo, bennett xiangling/anemo, zhongli/albedo/any if your geobros are crazy strong. Lately I’ve been clearing half of the abyss with yelan/xingqiu/sucrose/healer with 0 brainpower.

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   • Nahida (onfield with something like Magic Guide) / Nilou / Xingqiu / Kokomi

     Nahida stacks as much EM as she can and only exists to try to generate as much Nilou SuperBloom cores as possible

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2. Is C0 Nahida good for Nilou? Should I farm full EM for Nahida?

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   • Yea, Nahida should be Nilou’s best dendro support. If you’re Nilou isn’t doing a full EM build, your Nahida should.

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   • yes, nahida will be probably the best teammate for any character that is reliant on dendro reactions 🙂 (like nilou and cyno!)

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3. nooo bruh no dendro dmg bonus ascention BRUH dendro cups are sooo hard to get ???

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   • Yeahh, but her weapon gives a nice 30% Dendro DMG Bonus, if you get her the Deepwood set, you’ll be set with a nice 45% Dendro DMG Bonus and a 30% Res shred. Pretty fricking good!

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   • I feel you bro. At least her biggest hid (Karmic Retribution) has innate DMG% bonus if you get good EM 🙂

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4. Just got Nilou and now I am excited to get her even more!

   Collei would have to be benched

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5. So as an update, while a final determination cannot be made yet until her stats and kit is finalized and she is officially released, I now believe that at C2 Nahida will be best character in Genshin Impact, narrowly better than C2 Kazuha and C1+ Bennet. The reason being is while the latter two are amazing generalized supports, Nahida is looking to be amazing as both a main DPS/on field driver and Sub/Off-Field user, while still having strong support from her EM boosting passive and Dendro reaction buffs her C-2 provides. So she would be a more valuable pull because she is more flexible in the type of role one would want her to be in.

   In particular, I was watching a few YouTube guides for the recently released Nilou and I am seeing speculation that Nahida will help unlock alot of Nilou’s potential in her Bountiful Core teams. A Nilou team with Xingqiu, Yelen, and Nahida as a on field driver could possibly be a rather insane combination. Would likely be better than a Spread based team for Nahida.

   This realization is why I think Nahida will be the best character upon her release.

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   • While I do agree that Nahida is a strong support, she covers a more specialized area than bennett and kazuha.

     Also that nilou team you mentioned would die to self damage: Radish could only take 20 20k blooms at most, +1 for each rainsword. Also remember that bloom consumes 2 hydro for each 1 dendro, meaning hydro could become the trigger.

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     • I completely forgot about the self damage from dendro cores. Thanks for pointing that out!

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   • 30% defense shred increases pretty much ALL the damage the whole TEAM does, which is way more than 20% for just reactions.

     However, bloom’s damage increases per target simply due to being more cores. Spreadgravates are really strong, though. With bloom doing more damage per target means you just do the math based on how many targets you’re facing.

     As to nahida with nilou. I don’t see it. you need so much dendro application per second to keep up with the hydro that it by default becomes traveler/ collei. And since you get more cores when hydro drives the reaction, nahida’s skill seems wonky in that situation. So that relies pretty heavily on the supposed stronger dendro aura which might allow for a 3rd core.

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     • You are so genius ! Wow, how do you sleep at night ?
       Always nullifying other people’s opinion, such a troll
       You just play your build and let us play as we see fit, we don’t need to learnt from you how to build nahida

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       • Thanks.

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   • The problem with the team you’re proposing is that you won’t have a healer, and trust me when I say her Bountiful Cores can easily kill your teammates without solid healing. Her Bountiful Cores can easily reach 20k-30k damage per explosion, and on an AoE scenario with >3 enemies you’ll be dealing 3k-4.5k damage on yourself every time a seed spawns from each of those 3 enemies. You can probably see how this could easily go to 9k self-damage with just two waves of Bloom triggers.

     Instead, I recommend you try on-field Kokomi or Nilou since they’ll both have high HP to tank the Bloom explosions and have them be buffed with Nahida’s Burst. The last team slot would preferably be Collei or DMC (or perhaps a future Dendro healer/buffer) for the Dendro Resonance and faster Dendro application. Applying Hydro too fast can actually result in less Bloom seed generation since Dendro -> Hydro completely removes the Hydro aura whereas Hydro -> Dendro only partially consumes the Dendro aura, which means you’ll want slow or decent Hydro application with fast Dendro application if you wanna maximize Bloom seed generation.

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6. EM/EM/EM or EM/Dendro/EM for sub dps nahida? and how much crit rate/crit damage should i have?
   Also, deepwood or gilded dreams?

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   • If you have another dendro with deepwood then use gd EM/Dendro/EM. If she is the sole dendro then deepwood EM/EM/EM. Crit rate/ crit damage is the same as other character so 60 or 70 cr with the ratio of 1:2

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   • I prefer EM/Dendro/EM, you can easily get 650-900 EM with it by using EM weapon and good substats. (My current EM/EM/Dendro build has 750 EM)
     As for Crit Rate/Crit Dmg, try to reach 50%/100% or more, since you will again get another additional 12-21% Crit Rate and 35-70% Crit Damage from her EM (her passive converts EM into crit)

     As for Artifact
     2 PC Wonderers + 2 PC Guilded Dream (160 EM always)
     2 PC Deepwood + 2 PC Guilded Dream (80 EM + 15% Dendro dmg)
     4 PC Guilded Dream or 4 PC Deepwood ( 80-230 EM or Dendro shred + Dmg)
     whichever combo has the best sub stat (Crit/EM mostly but little bit of atk/energy is ok)
     Avoid Defence/HP substats, have at least

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   • For Off-field/Sub-DPS, I’d say Gilded Dreams is best. With EM/EM/EM stats. If you want a good balance, use EM/EM/Crit with a 1:2 ratio.

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   • You need at least one 4p deepwood user whenever dendro dmg is significant, so bloom and variants and quicken/catalyze. If you prefer to outsource the deepwood to another character is up to you.

     Gilded Dreams provides the biggest amount of EM if you teambuild around it. You probably have higher chances of having better Wanderer’s Troupe pieces, so a 2p Wanderer 2p Gilded is probably the best option unless you had crazy luck/farming.

     Her ideal EM is 1000, but unless you’re whaling it’s probably better to aim for a 600~800 for catalyze damage. If you’re asking which mainstats are the best, it’s probably a question on how your substats are looking. Use whatever gives you the highest amount of EM and crit, throw in a dendro cup if you got a good one and make sure to have at least one 4p deepwood user in the team, else all dendro damage is lower than it should be and it will probably give you a bad impression.

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   • people’s answers shock me. it depends more on whether you’re doing any spreads or not. if you are, going max EM makes as much sense as going full attack “because she scales with it.” you need all the stats if you’re planning on doing damage with her, the same way you need attack, crit, damage% and shreds for anyone else. Plus, you could always give the EM cap duty to kazuha or sucrose or someone else. Especially considering her own damage potential.

     Plus EM buffs are easy to get from other characters. A LOT of other characters.

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     • Why do they shock you? All this info is still speculative until release so everyone is giving their best answers on the info we have.

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       • Because we’re working with the SAME info, and it’s like people still don’t understand how spread scales even though it came out a patch and a half ago.

         Not even mentioning the information that’s right up there.

         To me it’s like looking at grass, stroking your chin while nodding and going “hm… yes. This is very red.”

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         • Relax. It’s great that you’re a wizard with this but it might not be so simple with others.
           More than that, this person is specifically asking for Sub DPS Nahida, which can be taken as off-field Nahida. Might as well give EM duties to her and put “all the damage stats” on your main DPS/Driver.
           Every answer here covers a specific build. Some are saying full EM, some are saying Balance EM and Damage, most are saying to have a standard crit ration covered.

         • @NAHida
           I don’t know man, every time I see your comments, it infuriates me !
           You have a tendency to cancel other people’s opinion or way of thinking, while always assuming your opinion is superior .
           EM/EM/EM, EM/CRIT/EM, EM/DENDRO/CRIT or ATK/DENDRO/CRIT all of these will work with Nahida’s kit.
           Not everyone will play Spread/Aggravate Nahida build, some will play bloom/hyperbloom maybe even burning builds.
           Stop cancelling people on the internet, try to have a positive attitude, learn how to accept other people’s opinion even if you don’t agree with them

         • Sorry, dad, but this isn’t rocket surgery.

           I’m not going stop you from eating soup with a fork (obviously – what am I gonna do? kick down your door and push up my glasses at you?) but I’m not going to pretend like spoons don’t exist for a reason, either.

           If this is what you consider cancelling, I’m not the one who needs to learn to cope with opinions. But, hey, that’s mine. Try to have a positive attitude about it, k , buddy?

         • NAHida, of course it isn’t rocket surgery.
           It’s rocket ‘science’. Just saying.
           Anyway, it’s the way you go around turning your nose up at everyone and filling all you comments with snobby dialogue. Not everyone is an expert on the intricacies of Genshin’s damage mechanics. There’s nothing wrong with correcting or explaining something to someone. But using sarcasm and a know-it-all attitude is inherently counterproductive.

           Unless you enjoy clogging the comments sections with needless forum pvp – well that’s your choice I guess.

     • You didn’t comprehend the comment yeah? Sub DPS usually means off field which means no EM buffs from the usual Diona/Kazuha/Dendro Traveler. What you’re left with is: Instructor 4p, Elegy for the End, Key of Khaj-Nisut and maybe the new craftable 4-star weapons, if you have the billets and are willing to give her the leaves.

       Also, she seems to be the only character that for spread/aggravate might wanna go heavy EM, since:
       – Her biggest hit receives flat damage from it, aside from spread (extra relevancy if you’re going off-field)
       – Her biggest hit receives DMG% increase from it (extra relevancy if you’re going off-field)
       – She already gets EM from ascension, so if you want to maximize her support you might as well compress the role of EM cap to her. Think of it like giving Bennett a set that isn’t ATK/Dmg/Crit.

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     • If you do the math, you’ll see that if she’s purely off-field, she scales better with EM than with any other stat including DMG% and crit until 1000 EM because of her A4 passive. It’s not that far ahead that running DMG% goblet is bad if the substats are better, but you should still keep in mind that EM is her best stat. Once it reaches 1000 it plummets to a pretty undervalued stat, though. If using on-field Nahida she will still want the classic EM/DMG%/Crit build though.

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   • Quick note: the chance for a circlet’s mainstat to be EM is 4%, and the chance for a goblet’s mainstat to be EM is only 2%.

     Unless you want to be stuck farming artifacts for like a year, just use EM/Dendro/Crit.

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7. So here are some observations I have of Nahida so far based on her current beta stats:

   Like Raiden Shogun, it seems she will be a strong all rounds (in terms of being strong in the 3 major roles of Main/On-Field DPS, Sub/Off-Field DPS, and Support. While both are strong in support, Raiden Shogun is more of a Main DPS with her burst, while Nahida seems to better as a Sub-DPS with her skill.

   Both Raiden and Nahida have really strong 2nd constellations which make from very good to ludicrously powerful.

   This is in comparison to the earlier archons Venti and Zhong-Li, who are both I feel more Support oriented (Venti with Crowd Control, Zhong Li with his ridiculous shield) and who less significant 2nd constellations.

   Nahida as a Main/On-Field DPS (thinking of her on a Quicken-Spread team) would lack the single target burst damage of Tighnari but but in exchange have better AOE and have better sustained damage. Of course Nahida could also be good as a on-field trigger for Bloom based teams, which Tighnari is not great at.

   As I expected, it seems she completely outclasses the Dendro Traveler. The fact that Dendro Traveler’s burst automatically ticks damage while Nahida’s skill requires a reaction trigger or damage from a Dendro core exploding may be of consequence, I can’t really think of any team compensations in which it would make a practical difference. I’m assuming a single enemy with the seed can still get Tri-Karma triggered on him/her/it. I find it interesting that Nahida’s basically takes Dendro Traveler’s burst and splits the functions of it into her own skill and burst. For other Traveler variations and the respective regional Archon, the Traveler’s Burst corresponds both visually and somewhat in function to the Archon’s skill, and vise versa.

   I think Nahida may potentially be one of the best characters in the game, at least in the top 5. Can’t wait to see how the community decides to make use of her upon release.

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   • Nice write up. I have similiar thoughts about her.
     However, building her gives me massive anxiety as she seems to be the most stats-hungry character in the game. Even more than Raiden Shogun.
     A thousand EM with high crit stats on a specific 4p set is just daunting. You probably also want a dendro cup, making it even more ridiculous.

     187 EM from Magic guide
     115 EM from ascension
     374 EM from EM sands and circlet
     100 EM from substats on flower, feather and cup
     230 EM from 4p Gilded dreams (when sole dendro)
     Results in 1006 EM.

     Good luck with now having high crit stats across all artifacts since EM drop rate is shit to begin with. Also gotta switch someone to 4p deepwood now because you don’t want to miss out on the 30% res shred. Which in turn means you have to double down on dedicating to a specific setup because if that character whos on deepwood now doesn’t fit into another or future comp, get fucked.

     Now, you can just use deepwood on Nahida and be done with it, but that also puts you back to 776 EM.

     Either way, the little pumpkin seems like living hell to build properly.

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     • I think it’s best if you think about it like Raiden Shogun’s ER: You’re supposed to get it from her signature weapon and stat-boosting constellation, so the real achievable EM value is something like 600~800 without those.
       Also, since the EM boost her personal damage output, you should probably only build EM/crit mix on spread teams, which would benefit from dendro resonance, providing you 100 EM and, being a catalyst-user, she can be on-field to benefit from EM-boosting passive talent. If she is the sole dendro for bloom-related reactions (or even burning) you can probably go EM/EM/EM so she provides big non-crit and reaction damage.
       On the topic of a burning memey team she probably deals 8k+ per Seed pop + 2k*3/sec burning ticks, +40% dmg bonus +200EM bonus to on-field character. Go Bennett/Xiangling/Heizou/Nahida and make a video titled “Everything Changed when the Fire Bending Heizou attacked” lol

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     • What about EM buffs from external sources like skill passives?

       But not even Raiden is an ideal fit for every possible reaction team – and her best teams don’t require her to build EM main stats. Unless you want your Nahida to be your only Dendro choice for both Transformative and Multiplicative type reaction teams, building her doesn’t have to be so daunting.

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     • I really hate the fact that EM is one one of the rarest main stats in the game for artifacts. Like just make them all equal.

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     • I just hope that her Off field dendro application is strong (like at least 1.5U) so that I won’t have to reapply it manually as fast. I fear that if that wasn’t the case, she’ll need another dendro character to consistently apply dendro, (DMC) making us need more slots for dendro core teams (Bountiful, fridge, hyper, burgeon)

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8. Some people legit think that her cute animations / idles aren’t “nerfed”, but only locked behind quest / friendship progression (like Raiden’s voicelines). LOL these guys are inhaling some pretty intense copium.

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   • although if it’s true, that would be cool as heck but yea knowing Muheye it’s a massive copium.

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   • Actually if it was true that would be insane

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9. Anyone worried about how Nahida Q actually obscure ur vision outside it , one way it will be hard to see monsters outside of it , 2nd reason is when u play with something like that u actually get sick of it faster than usual

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   • Nahida’s Burst radius is larger than Kazuha’s – there will rarely be any monsters outside it. For anyone who isn’t sick of Kazuha’s burst yet, it won’t be a big deal. Sorry if that’s you though. ><

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10. Okay, so from the wording of her elemental skill and burst it appears that she doesn’t have snapshot on her elemental skill.

    I could be wrong though.

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    • Hope her E doesn’t snapshot. That would be terrible considering her skill duration.

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      • Snapshot… terrible? What?

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        • I think what they are implying is: because of how long Nahida’s skill lasts, it would be nice to be able to cast it first in your rotation and let the characters with a shorter duration on their bursts/skills can go after her, in order to maximize your team’s uptime. If it snapshots on cast, however, casting it first in the rotation would mean it does unbuffed damage the entire time. If the skill were dynamic, you could cast it first to take advantage of its long ass duration but still use later characters to buff it.

          Obviously, not snapshotting would have other drawbacks, such as not being able to benefit from on-field buffs (i.e. c2 Kazuha or c6 Diona) when you’re playing her as an off-field sub-dps. Which one would be preferable depends on how you want to play her, I think.

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          • It would just be a different rotation. If you want to snapshots buffs you can just recast it when the buffs are on the field. The CD is so short + she probably applies 1 more dendro with it anyways…

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