966 responses to “Xianyun”

1. Finally Hu Tao can lament lol.

   Jk aside, from the videos I saw, she would have a better cc than Kazuha. I guess with Xianyun, you can finally put Kaz and [a healer] to rest, because One with VV can take over of these roles in the team and replace them with Furina + another off field dps.

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2. Pros:
   + Cool Triple Jump (great for exploration)
   + Glide Speed buff stackable with Red Feather Fan gadget
   + First large-breasted female with bouncy breast physics in ages!

   Cons:
   – Ugly design
   – Atrocious kit
   – Constellations are a joke

   I wish she scaled with EM so I could run her in my C6 Nahida Spread team. I’m a sucker for cool traversal mechanics and big bouncy boobies, but unfortunately she seems pretty incompatible with either of my main team comps. I know ATK is what 90% of the upcoming characters will scale with due to Natlan, so a little variety wouldn’t hurt before the neverending ATK-scaling onslaught begins after version 5.0.

   Here’s hoping Clorinde brings the goods; I’ve skipped every banner since 3.2 waiting for something worthwhile sinking my Primos into. If Clorinde scales with EM (and is NOT a Standard banner character) I will likely get her C6/R5 on day one. Otherwise, I’m probably stuck skipping every banner til 6.0 (Snezhnaya) Q_Q

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   • Ugly design 🤓

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   • Ugly design? You are just on copium on that one

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   • That 3rd pro is just sad, please touch grass…
     Anyway her kit is fine I’d rather have a niche fun support than Kazuha 2

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     • I was gnna say smth about hypocrite and touching grass because you reply to every comment but the guy above is a whale complaining about a character having bad cons, looks “ugly” and has an “atrocious kit” so nvm

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     • I agree. Genshin players don’t even know the definition of variety and just want another VV bot/Kazuha 2.0 but female

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   • Inb4 jiggle physics nerf. jiggle physics nerf. You just jinxed it for sure.

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   • Her kit is actually pretty good. She is the Gorou of plunge attacks. And before you say anything about how problematic needing to use plunge attacks are, plunge attacks have no ICD whatsoever. They also jump over eye level attacks that enemies throw out which means jumping over the beyblades of Coppelius/Coppelia and Meka Harvester, but one thing of great note is that the frequency of plunges are slow enough for forward vape or melt.

     You can experiment with how fluid plunge combos are using the Experimental Field Generator, as name suggests.

     She is also a really good CC for the 1s period it has. She also is capable enough to be the dps herself. So she heals, she does damage, both AoE and buffed in ST, she has CC, and she enables anyone to plunge.

     I am not at all surprised that she is a plunge enabler. Makes you question whether the mechanics of bosses are only self-imposed or is used as a testing ground for future implementation.

     Xianyun is an 8/10 support. Niche? Yes. But isn’t chained to such niche archetype as it would for Gorou or a C6 Kujou Sara.

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   • Touch some grass already. The fact that you included that third pro show’s that

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3. Very interesting character. As someone who already has plenty of unlocked characters, I’ll be pulling for her. Amazing design, and an interesting kit. For people with not many characters, this is not a unit I suggest pulling. But for someone, like myself, who wants to explore more ways to play their already good DPS units; she’s a very fun character to pull for with no a lot of investment needed.

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4. LOL see I told you! All waifus will be mid while the male characters will have better numbers so they can sell better. This is the future for genshin now, expect Arlechino and Clorinde will be mid until c2 or something lmao

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   • Did you just… forget Furina being the best character in. the game, and Wriothesley being kinda mid?

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     • she’s not tho. sure she’s good but far from best character overall. maybe best dmg amplifier tho but still has some tough competition.

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   • huh. Furina easily came as one of top support characters in the game

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   • Xiao was once a fan favourite. Now, nobody cares about him anymore especially every character can be him as long as you have cloud retainer+ Furina

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5. So… Catalyst Jean with better CC and team wide periodic healing? Good for me. Looks like she will be better than Jean with Furina. But the passive is pretty useless. 8 quills of buff AND single target only? Well, at least it can be used on bosses..

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6. She just is a healer, attack buffer and look like sub dps for DPS use CA like Xiao.

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7. I… I’m not sure i’m convinced by her kit… Her skill looks amazing but it has zero synergy with her support role (as usual, if you focus on her support side she won’t be the best at damage dealing), and her support role seems so weird (i mean, it’s fun to enable plunge attacks for more characters, but nobody really benefit that much from this and her damage buffs seem so bland and don’t help anyone do any interesting combos and stuff).
   I really hope she gets a tweak, because i was really interested in her (and again, i love her elemental skill). At least her healing scales off ATK… but if that’s the (basically) only thing she has then i’ll be disappointed.

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   • She’ll be great for Xiao, especially in teams with Furina

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     • Against bosses, I agree. Against mobs? Just take Bennett lol.

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     • Looks like she could be interesting and all… but I gotta ask. Why does the plunge dmg buff only affect a single target right now? Makes it nigh on pointless when fighting groups. Having a niche support is all well and good, but runs into the same problem every other niche supports face… Just take Bennett. All plunging attacks scale atk as well.

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       • Exactly what i was talking about. Why would i go out of my way to enable plunging attacks on characters that have nothing to do with plunging attacks (and most likely benefit more from normal/charge attacks, elemental skill, or elemental burst) just to deal more damage to ONE enemy?
         I really hope they make it more interesting than this.

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       • I believe it’s to an AoE-oriented team can adapt to Single target. It’s like Nilou teams. They are godly in AoE chambers, but start falling off once they hit a wall that is a boss with at least some dendro resistance.

         So basically, any AoE-enabled plunge team also competes in ST content. The buff would be way too high if it applies to every enemy hit, so it’s limited to 1 enemy at a time per plunge. Perhaps it could be arranged that the buff would be 80% of what it is now, but can apply to a max of 4 enemies per plunge, which strikes a balance since it won’t be severely ST limited, but works with small mobs at the cost of losing 20% of a former buff amount.

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         • That’s nice and all.. or I could just take Bennett and buff the ENTIRE kit of the DPS as opposed to a single aspect slightly worse than him, not to mention his dmg buff will effect everything as opposed to one thing. It’s a dumb decision, end of story.

8. niche support = easy skip

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   • Niche = unique = pretty interesting to me =3

     She will bring new playstyle and diversity by allowing anyone to plunge, we just have to understand how it can be relevant and for which characters

     But yes, it won’t be universally good and not everyone will enjoy it so in term of pull value, she will be low tier.

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     • omigod diluc with his high plunge multiplier

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     • Not for me, to this day I hold Shenhe on the bench because I don’t like Ayaka or Wryo, the niche support is shit that makes the characters less attractive and does not guarantee that the list will increase in favor of its niche.

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       • She is not like shenhe where she only buffs one element She will enable almost all chars to plunge almost 60-80%of chars would be able to plunge with her

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   • All supports are niche supports.
     Yelan/Yunjin are only good with NA, Bennet only with ATK scalers, Kazuha only with non-anemo/geo… and the list goes on.

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     • wdym yelan is off field enabler and hidro app its the most importante in the game.

       ALL characters they have high opportunity cost from attack, even characters that scale from DEF like itto, compare a shitty niche like CR to kazuha, bennet and yelan you’re a real idiot

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       • Are we even talking about the same thing here? Because your second sentence makes absolutely no sense in my context. But your first sentence already proves your lack of understanding my point, so it might just be that. I want to see you pair Yelan with Neuvilette and tell me that she is a good support for him.

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         • Don’t be stupid… does neuvilette need enable from the hydro side? when he himself can do it because his attack frequency and AOE are broken as shit even though he has standard ICD.

           However Yelan C4 is used in vertical inversion hypercarry with it, because it’s fucking broken… and yet even though it’s a damn HP% bennet scaler it’s used in vape compositions with it, you gave a bad example for prove your point, neuvilette, for being the same hydro that ignores many rules, can flex the 3 most stupid and inefficient teammates in the entire game that he wants on his team and will continue to have a very high performance even to the shit of dehya looks top notch with him

   • Let me guess. You want another repetitive VV bot

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     • I don’t want another bot that I’ll bench for not having her custom DPS partner.

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   • How is she niche??? She gives CC and full team healing, and def shred if you use the anemo set AND her being a catalyst user you can always give her TTDS to buff your DPS. Even if you don’t want to play plunge she’s still gonna be great, and especially in Furina teams. The plunging is just an extra imo, it’s there and could be fun but not like that’s the only reason you’d want to have her in the team

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9. another niche support….she is very pretty but they won’t fool me again like they did with shenhe, I felt bad not having ayaka with her for a long time and benched her because of that.

   I have no intention of betting on Xiao ever, so it’s an easy skip for me.

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   • I have Ayaka but I play Shenhe with other characters too. She is good with my RevMelt Rosaria, and she allows Layla to deal some dmg in mono cryo teams. Shenhe is tied to cryo DPS only (and it’s not a large pannel, I agree) but not to Ayaka specifically. Rizzly can enjoy her kit too (but I struggle a bit with energy with Queller with only one E per rotation so I have to go back Fav Lance to play her with him).

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10. While I like that they are further exploring jumping attacks, I dont like its implementation. Just doing jumping attacks is really boring, as Xiao has teached me, so I would rather have my character get an enhanced jumoing attack after certain conditions like using elemental skill or a full normal attack sequence.

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    • agree

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    • I think you’ll find it’s “taught” not teached.

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      • English may not be their 1st language. and you understood what they meant

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        • then they need to learn it. just like how idiot jp turds abuse english users for not pronouncing their garbage names properly

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    • I don’t think the plunge attacks would simply become boring. It simply adds another layer to the inputs we do per rotation, and allow an ST-fixated team to go AoE. Would be wild if Yoimiya’s E also infuses her plunge attacks. Then that would be fire. The plunge attack enabling is mainly gonna help characters of the claymore variant.
      Razor can be infused by C6 Bennett and get both melts and superconduct or vapes and overload, or melts and overloads. Chongyun would be able to melt his plunge attacks, keeping the pyro consistent through Xiangling or burning. Diluc will obviously soar like his eagle animation as a melt or vape plunging dps. Then Freminet, like at C3, can be infused by either Chongyun, C6 Bennett, or Candace to enable his plunges to vape or melt.

      Now here’s one that will puzzle you. Dehya as well. She got nice low and high plunge multipliers. But how will she plunge attack in her burst? Doesn’t jumping just cancels it? Exactly that, but you just focus on her Normal Attack talent and use Bennett C6 instead, like you already would with Dehya vape and dehya mono-pyro. Or give her Candace, making her Skill trigger burning with Nahida or other dendro applicator so that when she plunges, enemies are already affected by pyro.

      regardless, Plunging attack enabling will allow anyone to skip standard ICD as long as their melee, but at cost of a longer animation. Longer animation isn’t all that bad as it makes forward amplifying reactions more accessible. Since pyro is the strong element in melt and hydro strong element in vape, you’ll either need twice as much weak element application over the strong element’s application, half the amount of strong element application to weak elemental application, or the strong element has to be applied at half the rate of weak element application. The latter happens in plunging attacks since there is the jumping animation and plunging animation that takes place before element is applied. The weak elements can be applied throughout entire animation of jumping and plunging while the strong element is only applied at time of plunging.

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    • I believe Xianyun’s niche enabling may become potentially meta. Why? We have experienced in several abyss chambers back where one side is simultaneously AoE and ST, which makes teams that handle ST poorly but excels in AoE, or excels in ST but handles AoE poorly.
      Plunged attacks naturally take care of mobs quickly due to the AoE damage that plunged attacks do. Yet Xianyun gives an additional damage buff that is only particularly effective in ST, so the damage in both forms of combat are on equal playing field then.

      Additionally, why dodge when you can jump and glide? You may even be able to hit weak points of flying enemies (Aeonblight drakes, ruin drakes, and ruin hunters) with the collision damage of plunging attacks. It’s also a visibly more obvious movement of dodging, especially for players with dash-dodging skill issues.

      I think the biggest factor is that she can enable forward vapes and melts due to the slow animation of plunging. There are means of pyro, cryo, or hydro application that can be done in the midst of the high jump and plunging animation before impact of the plunge.

      What I’m saying is not definitive though. Luckily for us, we got a toy to play with regarding plunge attacks AKA the Experimental Field Generator. It’s no longer experimental for just the Fontaine Research Institute but also for the player.

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