966 responses to “Xianyun”

1. People have a really skewed concept of niche. Xianyun by definition shouldn’t be called niche, she’s an anemo healer support that can work on many comps. Is she optimal on those? no, but she can work.
   Many character do not even have the luxury of being usable on other teams unless you want huge dps loss, Xianyun is competitive in the comps that she works with.
   and even if you consider plunging its own “niche”, is not like a normal niche where it only works in one comp and thats it any comp that can incorporate plunging can use her such as Hu tao, Wrioth, Ayaka, Xiao, etc. some supports are only usable on ONE comp and thats it, and here Xianyun can be used on multiple ones and be suboptimal (in a fun way, like yunjin) in others.
   It’s like people won’t be satisfied unless a character is optimal on every comp and is leagues better than the alternative, that’s just the worst kind of powercreep, new forms of gameplay should be the priority and even if you don’t like it, you should at least recognize that is a good thing.

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   • Shock, horror! People want viable alternatives to the 6 or 7 characters they’ve been using for years, as opposed to gimmicky playstyles that will be dropped within two weeks of getting the character.
     The problem Xianyun has, she IS the replaceable unit in any comp she fits into, just like Dehya. Want a buffer/healer hybrid? Bennett is better even for Xiao. Want an Anemo VV CC bot? Kazuha is leagues better, as is sucrose with prototype amber. Want an Anemo DPS? Wanderer is better. Playstyles don’t mean shit if the unit isn’t worth using, just ask all those ‘unique’ units that no one touches.
     >B-but that’s Powercreep.
     No one gave a shit about powercreep when Hu Tao dropped, or when Kazuha dropped, or hell even when Neuvachad dropped. Should they be nerfed? Or is that fine because reasons. If certain units are too strong to be powercrept, then they should be nerfed, end of story.

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     • xianyun is NOT replaceable for any team where the carry does jump cancels. you cannot get plunge attacks any other way by natural means.

       Xianyun makes any melee carry strong enough to 36 star abyss, given that you have Furina and C6 Bennett. every melee character becomes a vape plunge dps. xianyun is basically the hyperbloom that makes the character’s damage relevant, whereas hyperbloom itself just does the heavy lifting for the favorite character.

       and also, you speak of Bennett, but Xianyun makes Bennett an actual carry. Bennett wants something to do between his E’s as a carry, and guess what, plunge attacks fit
       into the combo just right. xianyun also makes a decent vape team for Dehya without the cost of building energy on Dehya. for forward vape Dehya, use Nahida and Candace. for reverse vape Dehya, Furina and C6 Bennett. you can literally ignore her burst damage. you can also make Candace plunge, Chongyun melt, and even Hu Tao C0 becomes as good as C1.

       you don’t get this ability elsewhere. xianyun is irreplaceable for making jump cancels a dps incentive. even melt Ayaka.

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     • “People want viable alternatives to the 6 or 7 characters they’ve been using for years,”
       Xianyun is very viable, she’s just not kazuha tier so it isn’t enough for you.
       “as opposed to gimmicky playstyles that will be dropped within two weeks of getting the character.”
       you can’t call plunge a total gimmick when it can be incorporated into other playstyles or become one for those who like it. either way this is very subjective, just because you don’t like it or its “gimmicky”, doesn’t make it bad instantly, many comps have many gimmicks but for each their own.
       “The problem Xianyun has, she IS the replaceable unit in any comp she fits into, just like Dehya.”
       99% of characters are replaceable, and she’s nowhere near as bad as dehya.
       “Playstyles don’t mean shit if the unit isn’t worth using, just ask all those ‘unique’ units that no one touches.”
       people don’t touch the unique units because they are weak and the gameplay gimmick is not worth the hassle unless you like them (which should be priority), in Xianyun case, she still good, nobody in their right mind is calling jean shit in the current meta and by association, xianyun isn’t shit either when she’s jean with more teams.
       “worth using” is also a very subjective thing, for you”bigger numbers= worth using”, but bigger numbers don’t really translate to gameplay most of the time.
       “No one gave a shit about powercreep when Hu Tao dropped, or when Kazuha dropped, or hell even when Neuvachad dropped. Should they be nerfed? Or is that fine because reasons. If certain units are too strong to be powercrept, then they should be nerfed, end of story.”

       Hu tao was never true powercreep, Xiao and ganyu are still better than her in AoE scenarios, hell ganyu released first and she was still better than Xiao until many indirects and direct buffs. Kazuha wasn’t even better than Venti when he released because abbys still favored Venti, venti also received an indirect buff an was made easier to build, when kazuha released he didn’t have ayaka, yoimiya, raiden, etc and ganyu still wanted venti.
       Neuv is the exception to the rule and it took them 3 years to make another OP character that is not an archon, you can even argue that he TECHNICALLY is an archon and even then, he’s just a DPS so you can’t abuse it on other comps like a support, his powercreep only extends to numbers because he doesn’t really replace anyone on their respective teams which is the best kind of powercreep if you ask me.

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2. I still can’t believe fake Genshin content creators like Flip and Zajef are still thinking that she will be a good character outside of midao teams just because she heals. Good luck getting the full vv buff uptime on your cope midluc and mid tao teams! Fontaine powercreep forever..

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   • Why u hating tho?

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   • Zajeff sucks .

     CN is based they are protesting and unfollowing genshin CN social media en masse because of this embarrassing patch with a shitty character and shitty rewards.

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     • Who’s they? A few hundreds of ppl?
       Lmao. You doomposters are seriously so dedicated in the most pathetic ways.

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   • You doomposters never learn lmao.
     Either you ppl are incapable of learning, or you all are just antis disguising as genshin fans.

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   • I swear that the biggest commonality between doomposters is the horrible grammar. Worst offender being the non capitalization of names

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3. She’s def a chara to c2r1. She’ll make a lot of new teams, but people are always too smart to realize things when is not too late.
   The only thing you should consider for this game is variety, because it’s very easy and you “dont need” any particular unit. That’s precisely why who cares of the strongest units, just make the game less repetitive. And with her, every unit can become a plunger. Plus, being anemo, she can also use VV set.
   In abyss I can agree with you, if she can’t make every team the best one. It’s obvious. But for open world, coop, domains, which are stupidly easy, she can create dozen of teams, and some of them are also very strong against bosses: we know about xiao and diluc, and ofc gaming, but I imagine a noelle with furina, chongyun and shenhe, for sure at least claymore units; a fun Eula when she’s not under burst; c6 benney; catalysts, etc.
   Don’t believe me, believe to your eyes next month on youtube. Meanwhile check genshin aspirine for some calc

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   • I have a feeling the distaste towards Xianyun is more because of the lantern rite reward drama and not lie in Xianyun kit itself. Of course her kit isn’t the greatest ever but her kit is far from shit.

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4. Would she be worth pulling for plunge/dragon strike Diluc? His plunge scaling is ~350%/400% at lvl 10, which is significantly higher than his other auto attacks. Other than her giving my Diluc a consistent way to do plunge damage, I don’t have any want/need for her. Like she’s cool and all but I’d rather save for Arlecchino if we’re talking abt pretty women.

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   • It will allow Diluc to constantly plunge. It’s just more variety, that’s it. If you had characters that overall perform better than Diluc than you can skip Xianyun just fine.
     Arlecchino is either a dedicated support for Lyney much like the pattern we are seeing or a strong dps that powercrept Hu Tao also like the powercrept pattern we are seeing. Or we can finally have a better Bennett. Now they could still fumble so let’s just hope that they don’t.

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5. Against mobs, Xiao is still fkn great. If you don’t think so, it’s just you who doesn’t know how to play him. You can dislike his gameplay, but you can’t say he’s bad, because he’s not. But on the other hand, he’s obv meant to be a multitarget dps. So it’s totally fine if against bosses there are much better teams/rotations.
   But with this new girl he’ll become high S tier, or low SS, without doubt to me. With her her buff, Xiao will become very good even against single target, no way. If now he can easilly plunge at 100k even without being a whale, just see her buff multipliers…
   he won’t be a stupidly broken neuvilette; he won’t be even a dendro masterkey like alhaitham, but he’ll definitely be somewhere not that far.
   And if you have either c2 furina and c2 xianyun, and ofc c6 faruzan… well, before replying this post talking bullshit, just wait for a couple of weeks, and see youtube. One rotation to delete almost every boss who’s not ofc anemo resistant.

   Try to check some dmg calculator meanwhile, they’re not that precise but for sure they’re not totally wrong.

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   • babe wake up new copypasta just dropped

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     • actual zombie

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   • he’s bad. he’s ugly AF. He can stay away.

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   • Duhh He is so suckssssssssssss

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   • MIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD so Mid she is TRASHHHHHHH

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     • How old are you

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6. “I will remember you as long as i live”
   – Zombie

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7. “Stand proud travelers, your luck was strong”

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8. Hoyo: Between you and the travelers, who would win over Xianyun ?
   Qiqi: Well, if the players open their Domain “Infinite Guarantee”, they might cause me a little trouble.
   Hoyo: But would you lose ?

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   • this jjk meme is getting old

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     • they really be forcing it everywhere and it’s more annoying than funny tbh

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   • how do u lose a guaranteed

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9. Are we the genshin impact because we are the exception or we are the exception because we are genshin impact ?

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   • both

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10. the crit passive is trash when you fight single target and the second is trash when you fight multi target. It’s so conflicting. And the energy requirement of her Q is pretty high, you need to use her with another anemo unit if you want to maximize the buff of her passive. She needs her sig weapon to have smooth rotation. If you don’t have her sig and use her as single anemo in some team of diluc or ga-ming, you must sacrifice the atk for the er. You must have god artifacts with about 20% er per piece and use oath sworn then maybe you will have around 3000atk and enough er.
    And you think a unit with niche play style, need sig weapon to be good, maybe be tied with a anemo unit(xiao is the best unless you play her as dps with faruzan c6) is a unit with good kit. I like her very much so I’m a bit disappointed that they cook her bad.
    p/s: sr for my bad English

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    • I think she became more useless with c6 Xiao

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    • I was saying this earlier. my 210% er, (er sands – alley flash) 60 burst cost bennet needs to cast skill at least thrice in mono pyro team to get his burst ready, good thing you don’t have to look for any other substat for bennet. But for xianyun it’s atk%+er%. Unless xianyun has higher particle generation she’s going to require some real good atk er rolled artifacts. there must be some atk-er balance in the build.

      and I think supports should not require signature weapons. But it just seems like you will lose a lot without xianyun signature. concerning.

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      • Thats they are selling her c1 typical hoyos mfs

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