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1. You know, I was thinking (Oh no…). Maybe we just throw half of her kit out the window, and only use her for her heal and burst when she is C1 with Neuvillette C1. Ik yall gonna be Like “WhAt aBouT tHe Off FieLD DpS”, at this point bro, I just want a kokomi replacement in my double hydro team with Neuvillette, love her heals but I WANT BUFFS.

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   • Her dps is fine even with an ER sands, hybrid seems like her best option unless you genuinely have 0 use for one half of her kit

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2. Too long don’t read

   For those who genuinely wanna run her with Ayaka (like me; you aren’t alone), here’re a bunch of yes-no questions we can consider:
   – Can her dps and her buff outdmg the 68% (or 48% if you use totm Furina) atk by replacing Kokomi? If not, can her c1?
   – Is her hydro application good enough in Ayaka’s freeze? If not, should we absorb Kazuha Q with hydro? If so, or even too good, can she ruin the freeze team in boss fight, by ruining Cryo aura?
   – Is BS better than Golden Troupe if the enemies can be frozen?
   – Will she suffer ER issue? If so, should she use fav or sac?
   – To ensure healing also to accumulate fanfares while retaining Shenhe also, and ensure swirling Cryo more consistently, Furina only has 50% uptime with her dps pets. The rest of 50% will be for her healing pet. If we instead make her dps pets have 100% field time, could Shenhe be replaced by… Charlotte? Is the dps worse in this new team compared to traditional Ayaka freeze? Can we still be able to swirl Cryo consistently?
   – (Related to the previous 2 questions) should we introduce 2 hydros? If so, [the last question in the 2nd point]
   – Talking about swirl, can we double swirl both Hydro and Cryo consistently?

   – Grand final question (require answering all the above first): is she really worth it in Ayaka freeze in the first place?

   I won’t be surprised if most of answers don’t support running her with Ayaka. Or there’re questions that I may have overlooked (pls remember I don’t care about c6 5star TC). My initial prediction is: Furina has the worst synergy with Ayaka freeze.

   I think this’s… intentional. Why? I’ve been theorizing that Hoyo… isn’t that loving Ayaka like u guys think, since about 3.8. U can only see the surface of the “relationship” between them, and I can see the dark side also. I’m tempting to say “hate” instead, but it’s fortunately not correct either; therefore, the correct term is “equally treat”. And u can’t change my mind. U shouldn’t btw; let’s discuss the above questions instead as this paragraph is just merely a subjective theory, hence it doesn’t worth discussing.

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   • First of all, stop spamming.
     I’ll gladly give you simplified answers with your questions.

     1. Yes, with good stats. TotM is only preferable if you want her to be pure support with less damage. No constellation needed.
     2. Good hydro application thanks to her three summons. Kazuha absorbs hydro for normal mobs, cryo to burst elite boss. No, she won’t ruin cryo aura because more hydro application = more benefit on Ayaka with BS.
     3. No, GT is technically better at the moment for Furina, cause her elemental skill is something you’ll often use.
     4. Unless you run double hydro, yes. If she’s solo hydro, Favonius + crit goblet. Sac is worthless considering she has 100% skill uptime.
     5. Yes you can still swirl cryo consistently regardless, your rotation decides.
     6. Yes if you want to maximize Furina’s passive to be at maximum 40k HP. Otherwise no.
     7. Yes, Ayaka freeze practically needs consistant hydro application, and Furina provides it good with her three summons.

     There you have it. Once again, please stop spamming.
     Not that I’m trying to limit your rights/opinions, it’s pretty annoying at this point, since you should be able to notice it as hard Ayaka main.

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     • I don’t think they were spamming, they mentioned under their other comment the reply system is bugged (which it is)

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       • Yeah I experienced the same bug on Alhaitham’s page 😵‍💫. I was gonna comment on the main section, but it turned out to be a reply to the other comment instead.

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         • I’ve had the same problem on both honey hunter versions
           As well as always getting the “clicking too fast” error when I try to give someone a sticker

   • uhm..
     Id be saying NO to your final question, if youre not satisfied then do otherwise..
     but you can swirl cryo and hydro the same time if you know how to do it…

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   • – Furina buff over all damage not the atk like totm, in best case of 450 fanfare you got whooping 94.5% dmg bonus if you can max it
     – Regarding hydro application, i’m not really sure but i think it focused to single target or small aoe unlike kokomi wide aoe in change of your summon can follow you
     – I personally will prefer 70% skill dmg bonus from golden troupe if the furina always on off field
     – ER wise, i also not sure, her skill will last a long ass time, and it will probably generate quite a lot energy so ER weapon not really neccessary i think
     – This is my main concern as well, If your main dps not from fontaine (which mostly not have hp draining mechanic) and not drain enough hp, and it will kinda difficult to maximixe furina fanfare stack
     – Duo hydro will depend on the playstyle i guess, and yes it kinda possible to swirl 2 element, but it will require specific order of elemental application and more deeper mechanic to achieve this

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   • 1 no unless c1
     2 her hydro aplication is only goood against bosses or single enemies
     3 idk what bs is but her best set is hunter
     4 minimal give her fav only i its ur best option i would recomend 120/140 er i think should work
     5 i actually i would recomend you to remove your anemo unit foor jean she will help to get fanfare quicly and probably is theonly way to out do kokomi at c0
     6 no pls keep shenhe i think ur underestimating her
     7with he rigth rotation ig but migth not be worth
     8 situational tbh

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     • 1, really depends on how much healing your team has
       2, she has some AoE it’s just not especially impressive
       3,bs is blizzard strayer and hunter is only best at c2, before that it’s golden troupe
       4, 120/140 ER is terrible advice, she needs upwards of 200 depending on the team
       5,Jean is fine but her VV is inconsistent
       6, Valid
       7, double swirling isn’t too hard
       8, agreed, situational

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     • Furina’s hydro app is pretty good, but only excelling in AoE. Why would she be good against bosses though if her hydro app is less than Yelan’s but also the benefit of AoE?
       Furina’s seahorse applies hydro every 3 seconds with very small AoE.
       Furina’s octopus applies hydro every 7 seconds with a medium AoE, half of burgeon.
       Furina’s crab pet applies hydro every 4.35 seconds with the largest AoE, being 70% the size of burgeon.

       So it just means Furina has less hydro app, but better AoE, which works better for vape characters with more AoE so it’s not Hu Tao or Yoimiya but maybe Yanfei or DIluc. It also means she has harder time putting out burning so she is worse for Thoma burgeon, but also better for Dehya burgeon because Dehya has slower pyro.
       This also makes Furina better fitting into quickbloom than hyperbloom, especially since hyperbloom has no benefit from the dmg bonus plus a lack of healer options unless Baizhu driving.

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   • All good questions
     I don’t think Furina is worthwhile in Ayaka freeze but it’s not the end off the world since Ayaka freeze is already amazing and has no shortage of options
     I definitely think that as of right now it’s Wriothesley and Neuvilette who work best with Furina, other than those 2 she’s more of a general option but not strictly “better” than Kokomi, Yelan, Xingqiu

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   • You might actually be able to pull off Ayaka Freeze with Furina and that must rely on Charlotte. Furina has remarkable AoE even when her pets have pretty sluggish hydro application individually, being every 3s for seahorse, every 7 seconds for octopus, and every 4.35 seconds for crab.
     Charlotte is the team healer and heals the active character afterwards. Even though Charlotte is kinda designed to be a sub-dps healer and scaling off atk, you might as well forsake the not-noticeable dps of Charlotte and stick a TTDS on Charlotte. TTDS on Charlotte and ToM just like Kokomi. Then you can either stick to Blizzard Strayer on Ayaka, which ends up situational due to bosses, or Marechaussee Hunter to be more flexible with crit buff.

     Furina will do fine damage even with a Fleuvre Cendre Ferryman AND an ER sands. You would typically run HP/HP/Crit, and since her burst is quite necessary, ER/HP/Crit will do and have more team damage distribution since Furina does do more damage than Kokomi who focuses the dps onto Ayaka.

     So the plan is Furina (GT, Fleuvre Cendre Ferryman), Ayaka (BS or MH), Kazuha (VV,/FS, Iron Sting, or Umbrella Corp), and Charlotte (ToM + Fav, Oathsworn Eye, or Frostbearer).

     The only issue I see with the team is primarily energy. Ayaka needs a good amount of energy and I dunno ho well Charlotte can do so vs. Diona, Rosaria, or ofc the premium Shenhe. Furina being only hydro would make her really hungry for energy. We would need to see Furina with at least 220 ER, or edit rotations to where Furina catches Fav particles. And then Charlotte wants ER too, but thanks to Oathsworn, she can get some from its passive, and Fav has higher trigger rate due to her multi-mark hit with her skill

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     • Using anything other than ttds would defeat my purpose of bringing Charlotte in the first place and I’d use Diona instead.

       I think using double fav for Furina and Kazuha could solve ER issue of the team

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3. ugghhh beta updates wont make it.. its HOLIDAY SEASON..

   LET THE PEOPLE REJOICE!!!!

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4. The angry Midlan, Midqiu, Kokopium and Midyato mains are so butthurt that they are still spamming the comments. Its frustrating to see your powercrept units being outclassed by new ones, but they should just move on from their inferior hydro units and upgrade to superior hydro units instead of being jealous of Neuvillette and Furina mains

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   • Hydro units enjoyers just love Furina as much as other hydro units. More mono hydro teams possible. <3

     So why being jealous ? =)

     As always, these kind of baits are easy and low, but I'll give you 2.5/10 this time. Yes, I'm generous today, you made an effort and didn't say Midkomi like the other chars. I'm for the creativity.

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     • They could genuinely get powercrept and I’d still use them bc the whole hydro roster is awesome (except Candace sorry I just can’t find a place for her)
       I remember people saying Yelan was Xingqiu powercreep but here we are using both together
       Childe has unmatched application in AoE
       Yelan and Xingqiu both have amazing off field dps, but Yelan is more damage and offensive buffs while Xingqiu is defensive and ST application
       Kokomi is an amazing versatile healer and also great with dendro
       Ayato is cool (gonna be honest I don’t really know what his unique upsides are)
       Neuvilette is pure unadulterated pressure washing power
       Furina is reasonable sub-dps with 100% uptime and potentially huge dmg bonus on ult.
       The whole hydro roster has so much going for it, Furina and Neuvilette aren’t replacing the amazing units we have they’re just adding onto them

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     • No need, Kokopium is the worst designed hydro character. Calling her mid would be a praise

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       • Saying that about an awesome healer/driver/AoE slow hydro applier show how low your bait is. 1/10. You didn’t event try.

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         • The same thing that Barbara could do in bloom or Mona in freeze, your point? Imagine being released with constellations and weapon focusing on her being a DPS but ending up as nothing more than a TTDS TOTM bot, that’s called a worst kit design.

       • she is mhe at best but calling her worse than mid damm dude

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   • Couldn’t agree more, I’ve benched my Nilou in favor of Furina and I don’t regret a bit! One day Zajef will have to stop coping and accept XQ is outdated garbage

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     • This man leaves in the future. =O He has Furina before everyone else !

       Let’s be honest. Nilou/Furina/Nahida/Dendro flex seems really fun. I don’t think it will beat Kokomi (since she is catalyser and have hydro NA) but it will be wild with Nilou’s core self damage and Furina’s HP drain !

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       • That doesn’t sound like the good kind of wild…
         That sounds like the “Owie I killed myself” kind of wild…
         Really hoping that 4th slot would be Baizhu

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         • Sure xD
           I hope Kirara or Yaoyao with Proto Amber Nahida can do the trick, I’m not a Baizhu haver =x

         • I’d pick on field Yaoyao her team healing (and some extra fanfare for Furina’s personal dmg)
           Kirara would definitely work tho that shield is unbreakable

     • Bro how’d you bench Nilou for a character who isn’t out yet?

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     • Lmao this day happen… Former Nilou mains 😂

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     • Too long don’t read

       For those who genuinely wanna run her with Ayaka (like me; you aren’t alone), here’re a bunch of yes-no questions we can consider:
       – Can her dps and her buff outdmg the 68% (or 48% if you use totm Furina) atk by replacing Kokomi? If not, can her c1?
       – Is her hydro application good enough in Ayaka’s freeze? If not, should we absorb Kazuha Q with hydro? If so, or even too good, can she ruin the freeze team in boss fight, by ruining Cryo aura?
       – Is BS better than Golden Troupe if the enemies can be frozen?
       – Will she suffer ER issue? If so, should she use fav or sac?
       – To ensure healing also to accumulate fanfares while retaining Shenhe also, and ensure swirling Cryo more consistently, Furina only has 50% uptime with her dps pets. The rest of 50% will be for her healing pet. If we instead make her dps pets have 100% field time, could Shenhe be replaced by… Charlotte? Is the dps worse in this new team compared to traditional Ayaka freeze? Can we still be able to swirl Cryo consistently?
       – (Related to the previous 2 questions) should we introduce 2 hydros? If so, [the last question in the 2nd point]
       – Talking about swirl, can we double swirl both Hydro and Cryo consistently?

       – Grand final question (require answering all the above first): is she really worth it in Ayaka freeze in the first place?

       I won’t be surprised if most of answers don’t support running her with Ayaka. Or there’re questions that I may have overlooked (pls remember I don’t care about c6 5star TC). My initial prediction is: Furina has the worst synergy with Ayaka freeze.

       I think this’s… intentional. Why? I’ve been theorizing that Hoyo… isn’t that loving Ayaka like u guys think, since about 3.8. U can only see the surface of the “relationship” between them, and I can see the dark side also. I’m tempting to say “hate” instead, but it’s fortunately not correct either; therefore, the correct term is “equally treat”. And u can’t change my mind. U shouldn’t btw; let’s discuss the above questions instead as this paragraph is just merely a subjective theory, hence it doesn’t worth discussing.

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       • Don’t reply this the comment system is bugged 💀

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         • did you just commented the same thing twice?

           if this is a bat then…. 3/10

   • Mid bait, couldn’t even create good names besides adding “mid” to them. Cringe.

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     • Yeslan, Kingqiu, Ayatop, Koko… uhh
       Kok.

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5. I wonder if she will do well with Hutao. Not sure how good but decent hydro application, buffs based on fanfare and how much hp you lose…

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   • Yes… to much well for Hutao, with Furina Hutao can run this team:
     Bennet – Furina – Yelan/Xinqiu (depends on the application, if Furina is enough with Yelan than this duo is better) and Hutao, where Tao instead of Shimenawa or Crimson is builded with Marachusse set.. it became a god monster Hutao.
     Benny give an enourmus boost, Furina drain HP from Hutao so the marachusse is triggered and u have free 36% crit rate, than the hp drain help tao to be low health for atk buff plus benny and than Yelan give hydro + bonus dmg? man Furina is broken

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   • I think hu tao still best go with xq and yelan
     Furina hp draining will only occured if the char have 50% above hp, which on the other hand hu tao want to be have less than 50% hp to utilize her passive
     But furina want to your team have hp change as much as possible (1% hp changed you get 1 stack i think) to achieve max fanfare stack which will give enormous buff (~94% at max stack)
     So yeah in short you want the whole party have their hp drained and restored as much and as fast as possible (like obviously she will have great synergy with fontaine char)

     And regarding the hydro application i dont think it will be outmatched xq in term of pacing, it just have perfect pace for hu tao not to fast not to slow

     My statement is solely from this web data and a bot of gameplay leak, so it may be correct or maybe wrong
     Peace

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     • Zhongli is the answer here. you won’t need much of heals if you have strong shield. HuTao Yelan Furina Zhongli can do the job well

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6. you know what… I will just stop thinking and play mono hydro
   yelan xingqu furina and jean(fav)
   this way she and everyone can get burst every rotation right?
   3 girls 1 femboi meta

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   • Mono hydro is already real =D

     Kokomi/Yelan/XQ/Kazuha is strong and I love to play it. Maybe replacing XQ by Furina in this team ? Kokomi heals teamwide under burst and Kazuha is already shreding hydro res.

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     • yeah having kok as on fielder to do dmg should be nicer, now everyone does dmg.
       shame i don’t have kok.

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7. She looks good on paper, but the problem is how fast she accumulate fanfare point? If her summon attack every sec, then we only get 12 fanfare point/sec. And if in her team there is kokomi doing her burst (lets assumpt that she hit twice/sec and her jelly heal once/sec) we got another 12 fanfare/sec. Counting furina passive she give additional 4 fanfare/2 sec.
   In total we only get 260 fanfare point after 10 second. So in order to get additional point we forced to include fountain character(because most of them have their own hp change mechanic) on her team. Is it new predatory scheme by hoyo? They wont stop with their ousia/pneuma mechanic! And im sure they will introduce more on the future.

   Tldr: dumb hoyo forced us to pull new character with furina’s kit.

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   • This is the point. She will be fine with old unit and awesome with Fontaine units. So everyone have still a room in their team while you can still play her wherever you want. Balanced.
     (Yes, you can put Furina in teams she isn’t the ultra best for, loosing 2sec in you abyss performance doesn’t matter if you aren’t a speedrunner)

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     • As I understand her kit, as was pointed out, her fanfare stacking is slow, which locks her in teams with new characters with their own drain / gain mechanic and bloom / fridge teams. C2 fixes that and will be a “free her from few, certain teamcomps and make her generally useable”-constellation which is a huge selling point (and kind of a d**k move).

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   • You can still utilize older char no?
     I think Xiao, Furina Bennett, Faruzan will work extremely well
     Xiao is strong. Buffed with Bennett and faruzan? He is crazy monster and sike lets give him furina buff

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   • You can get 280 Fanfare points with a team healer healing as much as Furina consumes. 70 points generated per character. That’s 58% damage bonus for the team. Furina alone only gives 29%. Dehya gives 60 stacks, 10 to get from Redmane pushing from 50% max HP to 40% max HP, and 50 from the healing of her A4. This can happen while Dehya is off-field, something that can’t take place for Fontainians, who need 4 to 10 seconds of uptime to drain their own Hp.

     You might also go for Prototype Amber to be on teams for some more stacks, 72 at R5, but no more than that with Prototype Amber. Jean is a good choice, Sayu as a Jean/Bennett fusion, or Mika as a C2 jean/Qiqi fusion.

     Think of the combination of Mika’s atk speed buff and Marechaussee Hunter on some dps while Furina drains the HP. That would be a unique combo trifecta, ignoring MIka’s phys dmg oriented buffs, and focuses on that healing and atk speed buff.

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8. You guys really want her to do fucking everything with not a single drawback huh

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   • i just want to put Xingqiu to rest man…

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     • Chivalry will never die…

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   • Neuv has no drawbacks, Alhaitham has no drawbacks, Kazuha has no drawbacks, Xingqiu has no drawbacks. I don’t see the problem on wanting a character to not have any drawbacks

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     • Neuvi’s “drawback” is not a wide roster of HP scaling and/or charged atk carry supports and his A1 “restricting” team building. Overall teambuilding flexibility IS his weakness, if just a minor one.

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     • Neuv’s drawback is being gated into 3/4 element teams to maximise his damage, and currently having no dedicated support
       Even after Furina releases Neuv is still losing 1 a1 stack at c0 so he’s not reaching peak potential
       And his weapons: no f2p weapon comes close to his sig
       At C1 with Furina and his sig I would say he has no drawbacks, but that’s very high investment and not many are lucky enough to get that (after all it’d take nearly 800 pulls in 2 patches to actually guarantee, I was just lucky)

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       • So yeah Neuvilette has clear drawbacks, he’s just strong enough to be good even with them (as all characters should be: good but with drawbacks)

         As for the others? Alhaitham isn’t someone I can comment on other than me not personally enjoying his playstyle.
         Xingqiu has downsides too, he has high energy requirements, low base atk, a long Skill CD and can’t snapshot buffs like Xiangling. But again what he excels at outweighs what he’s bad at.

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9. I have an R4 Key of Khaj. Would it be worth using at C0/C2 over Signature or Festering Desire? Stats will probably be ER/Hydro/Crit, not sure if Golden Troupe or Marechaussee Hunter would be BIS.

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   • If your team needs EM I’d say key is undoubtedly better, as for the actual damage idk
     C2 I’d say key with marechaussee
     C0 is a bit harder, R4 key is oddly specific but I think the extra HP may be worth, and Golden troupe is BiS

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10. She isn’t mediocre at any for HP based teams (she isn’t a Catalyst, so she can’t use TTDS)… Though C1 is sort of required to unlock all of her potential. Also, C1 Mona has some edge on Hu Tao over Furina due to vape.

    Consuming 50% of the HP of the whole team provides 200 fanfare points, which is equivalent to 44% DMG increase at C0-C4. That’s 16% shy from Mona’s 60%, but it lasts for whole 18 seconds as opposed to a 5 seconds Omen.

    Note that Mona’s Omen can last for up to 13 seconds against Bosses, so the difference isn’t very noticeable in this case (even C6 Neuvillette can only use his Charged Attack for up to 13 seconds, though at that point nothing in front of him should be alive ).

    Going into C1, she should be able to gain an additional 33% DMG increase from a lvl 10 Elemental Burst, which does make her buff stronger than Mona’s (77% vs 60%), even offsetting the Vape deal for Hu Tao teams.

    I mean… 17% is greater than 15%, but remember that Reaction DMG usually has better returns for Hu Tao due to how EM bonuses scale at a logarithmic scale and how there aren’t much more sources for it besides EM and Crimson Witch.

    Anyways, she can be busted at C6, but I would not otherwise count with any Fanfare stacks besides what she gets from using her Elemental Skill to suck the life out of your characters and what she gets for free at C1. It’s sort of an Eula situation.

    My advice: If you can get her C1, go for it, regardless if you have Mona and her Constellations.

    If you can only get C0, only seriously consider getting her if you don’t have C1 Mona; If you have C4 Mona, then forget about it altogether.

    Also, Sacrificial Sword will probably be her best 4* by a long shot. Remember that she needs Characters to be at full health to gain 200 Fanfare stacks, but she can only heal by herself when using her Elemental Skill (Pneuma version) which is also the way she “bleeds” your team for 200 Fanfare stacks (Ousia version). The thing has a 20 seconds cooldown, and needs to be used twice during that time. Simple math.

    Even if you count with the overflow from Neuvillette or possibly Hu Tao, for example, the fact that you still have another 250 stacks to max her buff makes it so having Sac sword to already start at advantage is almost always the best choice.

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    • Oh, nvm about the Sac sword, she can’t use it at all (duration of minions is already ridiculously high and changing Arkhe results in changing them).

      IDK then, maybe something like Sapwood Blade or the ol’ reliable Fav Sword?

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      • Fleuve Cendrée, crit rate for skill, ER weapon, bonus ER passive. 5s is short but it’s enough to cover the rotation until you go on your carry.

        Festering Desire for early players but not everyone have it (sad 1.4 player here ;_;)

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    • C1 meta incoming 🗿

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      • Yo Ayak c2r1 maim you’ve been impersonated a couple comments down. Who impersonates people people on honey hunter?

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        • I saw it. But I’ve been b4 and people seem to well recognize it anyway so I don’t really bother.
          Btw thanks for notifying me

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    • Don’t forget that furina can also provide a significant off field dmg with her elemental skill. So i think the overall team dmg is still better with furina than mona

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      • Not to mention that some teammates don’t work with Mona’s relatively short burst (i have no idea how to extend the omen effect) and more importantly application uptime. I’m pulling for Wrio and am strongly considering getting Furina.

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    • Mona burst extension trick, can it be applied to non frozen enemy? Iirc any hit will pop the illusory bubble except frozen enemy. CMIIW.

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      • It’s not a matter of “extending” it, but simply that some enemies naturally don’t take poise damage, and as such the bubble only pops after the max duration is over; Said enemies are bosses and certain empowered enemies.

        Freezing makes it so enemies that usually take poise (most common enemies) won’t take any (unless they are thawed or shattered).

        The Omen lasts for both the bubble duration and 5 seconds after it pops, which goes for a total of 13 seconds.

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    • Realistically, Furina wouldn’t be able to consume 50% of team’s HP in 18 seconds before the Universal Revelry buff expires and resets. Furina’s skill-linked pets attack pretty slowly. So what you will expect is 35% HP reduced from everyone, so she gives a 29% buff instead, and with a team healer in the midst, recovery of the team yields alnotehr 35% HP change per character, which is 280 stacks total and 58% damage bonus.

      Additional stacks would be through Fontaine’s HP manipulators, or Dehya. Yeah, I said Dehya. Dehya’s HP is manipulated from off-field, which is something unique to her alone. The Redmane’s Blood is used to push her HP below 50% when it comes to the second rotation or onward, and then jumpstart the Fanfare points through her A4, giving 50+ stacks from there over a period of 10 seconds. Dehya’s damage mitigation also acts as a damage reduction to the main character without the loss of overall HP changed through damage received.

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    • Furina’s a whole meta changer, pretty much demanding team healers, or just strong healers in general. Bennett is one but he can’t use Furina’s A1 so he is stuck as an active character healer. Since Furina drains team HP, she turns everyone into a user of 4pc Marechaussee Hunter. And you know what that reminds me of? Mika. You combine the 2pc of marechaussee and SPEED of MIka’s Skill buff and his on-attack healing, you got yourself plenty of excess healing and buffs.

      I also would like to coin the “Sunfare” Jean team [Sunfire Jean + funfare) which utilizes the extra healing between Bennett and Jean as well as the constant pyro swirl to make Furina forward vape. What I’ve seen is that Furina has less hydro app than Xingqiu and Yelan but more AoE, and that means harder to defeat burning which means continuous pyro application makes forward vape easier to do, while also causing temporary hydro auras to be swirled and shredded.

      My idea of the team is Jean, Bennett, Furina, and either Xiangling or Ayato. Ayato for the dps and hydro resonance, Xiangling for off field dps, and pyro application.

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