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1. just so I understand this correctly if multiple enemies have blood debt and she CAs, she only gains 20% BoL and NOT 20% for each enemy right?(so 5 treasure hoarders = 100%?) so her cap at c0r1 is 110% (70% from lvl 3 blood debt, 15% from burst, and 25% from her weapon). sorry if this seems confusing.

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   • Nope
     she gains however much the blood debt grants x the amount of enemies, however it is capped at 80% in a single recovery
     The on-kill BoL may or may not be affected by that, if it isn’t them Arlecchino becomes an insanely strong mob clearer

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2. i’m totally going to pull for Arlecchino but i do wonder how her numbers once built with her best in slots will compare to a built and best in slot Hu Tao

   i still think Arlecchino will be good, simply because a fatui’s kit hasn’t failed us yet (bc fatui make more money shhh)

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   • try using GI DMG calculator it’s relatively easy to use

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   • I over exaggerated the numbers before but basically she’s going to be a bit weaker than Hu Tao C0 vs C0, While the same level C1 to C1 but you just constantly keep the buff at C1 so while the damage is the same, the fact you don’t run out after 9 seconds Imo makes Arle a lot better. People may argue against that since when the buffs are off she gets a lot “Weaker” but honestly depending on how much life the enemy has left switching to buff again is the last thing you want to do. Say you are fighting just 1 enemy and you buff, you run out of buffs and the enemy has 10% life left. The last thing you want to do here is buff up again for the last 10% and waste all that energy and time. Hu Tao can’t do a thing to it until her E CD comes off tho, while Arle literally just keeps ticking and will take care of it within the next few seconds. .

     At C1 she is Hu Tao level while having far more QoL and with far more AoE. She can take out groups of enemies are the same time if they are close together and she dosn’t yeet enemies instead pulling them in towards her so you never have to go chasing.

     C2 and above she just beats Hu Tao in every way. So honestly it depends on your investment.

     Intent C0 maybe don’t pull if you already have a fully built Hu Tao. At C1 get her for more AoE DPS and if you want C2 or higher just get her and you’ll never use Hu Tao outside of nostalgia.

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     • This is of course before any updates in the beta, we have 3 updates to go yet, so things can change.

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       • If the “flight” is true then big changes are coming

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         • Yea idk what that means though lol. Like is the buff going to apply to plunge attacks after a change? If that’s true she may be changing to a plunge DPS? So you get a charged off and can now plunge a few times? Well that’s good for survivability since you can time your plunge attacks like Xiao can and avoid big hits. I was a Xiao main at first and got so good i could literally avoid any and all hits, but i’ve… lost it a bit since then lol… But tbh i was looking forward to having a normal attacker since i’ve never used one. I’ve never used a non burst themed char too so current Arle is my dream char.

           Btw i should tell you, current calcers are going with the 2 hits from the 4th attack being just one buffed hit. As a result this lowers Arle’s DPS a bit since instead of calculating 7 hits you have to just do 6 in the same amount of time. Sadge.

         • Of course, they could just be wrong as well.

   • easy, arle can use bennet/chevrouse

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3. yoimiya without range

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   • And with usable AoE and more dmg
     Both have their pros and cons

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4. Is Arle Furina a good core? I could throw in Kazuha and Bennett in there. Idk how to build her team

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   • If you have a teamwide healer it can work, but since Arlecchino can’t be healed, teams without a teamwide healer will have unreasonably slow fanfare generation

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5. why is no one mentioning the fact that we can’t find the energy cost of the burst?? or isn’t decided yet?

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   • it’s 60

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6. even if she was better than hu tao, her teams are so boring that it wouldnt be worth getting
   mihoyo release a dps thats not tethered by xingqiu/bennett/xiangling challenge (IMPOSSIBLE DIFFICULTY)

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   • Have you ever done calculations yourself?

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   • Neuvilette, Tighnari, Ayaka(may be played with XQ, but almost always is not), Nilou (same as Ayaka), etc.
     Anyways, it’s much better to have a certain four star in almost every team than to have a certain five star in almost every team. Hoyos made a bunch of OP four stars, and we must be happy about it.
     Arlecchino’s teams are just almost the same as Tao’s except she can be played in overload and in some ayato-like pure NA teams. That’s a lot. Doompost better.

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   • play Arlecchino Overload like God intended us to do. Also death to circle impact… Overload without benny will be tons of fun

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7. After reading the comments I now have a better understand of Arlecchino (that she is primarily normal attacker) after being confused upon first reading up on her kit.

   I am also starting to get a good understanding of what types of teams she will work best.

   Reverse Vape will probably be her best single target build, with her highest damage ceiling likely being with both Xingqiu and Yelen, and an either Bennett for the attack boost or a anemo unit like Kazuha for resistance shred.

   However, since she is so fragile (due to her not being able to use external healing) a shielder in the last spot will likely also make a lot of sense. A good alternative team could be to use just Xingqiu OR Yelan, with Yun Jin instead of the 2nd hydro unit (since she boosts normal attacks and Arlecchino is relies on them heavily). Round out for Zhong Li, which would mean some less damage but more comfort, and freeing the other hydro unit to be used with another team.

   For AoE situations, while I feel that forward melt will be difficult, Arlecchino could be used as a on field driver for off field Cyro Character to use Reverse Melt. Most intriguing to me is the new Burning Artifact set Unfinished Reverie, which could be used for a burning-melt focused team.

   I am thinking on the lines of Arlecchino (with her signature set Fragment of Harmonic Whimsy), a strong Cyro off-fielder with the Unfinished Reverie (like Rosaria, Kaeya, or even Ganyu), a dendro unit (Nahida is #1 of course, but Collei, especial with Elegy of the End could also be a strong option) and then a flex slot (an Anemo character to swirl Cyro, or perhaps Kiaria , to be used as both a shielder and to unlock Dendro resonance.

   While I did talk about overloaded, I know feel that Arlecchino would be a bad for that team type, and I hope another character (maybe Chlorinde) can give that team a boost.

   Just some additional speculation on my part.

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   • Overload should actually be pretty good because she has a pulling effect on her normal atks. So the knockback from overload shouldn’t be that bad. I think the actual dmg from it is pretty good, some ppl have mentioned that in the comments but imo i don’t fully trust that information because its still beta. I’d prefer to wait until release to decide what kinds of teams are best for her and just speculate right now while beta is happening.

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   • Overload teams should actually be quite good (moreso if chev’s C6 can affect Arle) just not with Bennett because we all know by now how bad circle impact is
     The necessary units are or Arle and Chevy but the other slots can be anything electro or pyro
     Fischl is probably the strongest contender because of her pure sub-dps and energy, Yae can he a secondary sub-dps, Beidou is a fantastic mix of offense and defense

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   • Isn’t her defensive passive meant to lessen her fragility?

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8. anyone can confirm if BoL can go beyond 100% ?
   because after calculation I found it strange that PJWS R1 with 95%BoL does slightly better damage than Signature weapon R1 at 100% BoL
   if BoL can go beyond 100% then Signature will make it 120% BoL (80+15+25) that result in higher damage than PJWS by a lot as it should be for being signature.

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   • BoL caps at 200% of max HP, 100% is visually only half of your hp bar

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     • The max she can get is 120% due to limitations tho or 130% with C4. At least for now. But yea at 120% her first few hits are going to be strong af. Imagine they change the 80% cap from the skill tho, that would be so good. Even with that though the limit on single target is 110% or 120% with C4.

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       • Oh yeah I meant the overall BoL cap

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         • Yee i know, i was just adding a bit of useful info to your post. 🙂

       • Aren’t killing three enemies shouldn’t give 200% BoL? 
         Her second passive should allow that, unless I’m missing something.

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         • We don’t know if the “Killing gives 70% Bol.” is limited by the 80% Cap of her E, if it’s not then that would be insane yea.

         • Her E only limits BoL from the Blood-Debt Directive. 
           At least it is written this way.

         • technically she should also be able to reach the cap by using CAs with her signature weapon but it’d take a while and obviously isn’t practical

         • Yea it does but it’s hard to say because of how messy translations are until it’s cleared up after beta updates.

           But it also depends how many enemies you can inflict. it says only the slash inflicts the debuff, do you know if the slash is AoE?

         • But at the same time, it makes her overpowered in AoE against groups of small to medium-sized enemies.

         • @Reina, I’m not sure what you’re referring to as a “slash”, but Arlecchino’s charge attack is AoE.

         • @Lazy Brain. I’m not talking about the charged but the dash-cleave of the E skill. Read this.

           “Summons forth Balemoon Bloodfire, dealing Pyro DMG to multiple nearby opponents and performing a dash-cleave against one of them.”

           The dash-cleave is the attack that i was on about, but rereading it yea it states the aforementioned attack so the AoE part of her skill is what applies the blood debt so what i said makes no difference anyways.

           But still, people on reddit at least seem to think that the 70% for killing an enemy is counted as skill as it mentions the blood debt which is the what the 80% max is based off. You maximum Bol you can gain from the blood debt is 80% every 20s. I really hope casting a new skill removes that CD tho or it will be stupid.

       • @Reina
         I calc. this with C0 ATK 2186 / CrR 72.3% / CrD 231.4% using team Zhongli+Yelan+Yunjin

         if there were no 80% cap on passive then she go 200% BoL after reaping 3 targets, she does like 29079~96369 (avg. 77730) damage on 6th NA without vape / 43619~144554 (avg. 116595) with vape…
         and btw, C6 she does about avg. 101k(no vape) avg. 151.8k(vape)

         surely, the cap was there for reason 😀

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   • i personally think, the best thing about her Signature is just having a extra source to get Bond of Life to get the passive to work faster.

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9. 5 star char with stats of a 4 star 🙂

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   • 3rd highest base atk is stats of a 4*?

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   • Man wdym she top 3 atk and ascension is crit dmg

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   • aww hu tao mains are getting jealous 😔😔

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   • Nah, look at that username. This person will obviously attempt to doompost Arlecchino to feel good about himself.

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10. “No king rules forever”

    Hu Tao: I’m a queen not a king.

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    • And you are a troll

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