456 responses to “Шилонен”

1. I was hoping for a geo healer/off fielder from natlan for my Neuvillete C1 team. But using Neuvillete, Furina, Kazuha and Xilonen would be tricky since there is only hydro to react with geo. With an external elemental source (Like a slime) the team would work with 100% bonus from furina, 40% from Kazuha, 40% front Xilonen artifact set and resistance shred of 40% from Kazuha VV and 36% from Xilonen plus the off field healing. It sound super cracked by limited by the amount of elements

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2. Something that confused me
   If she is in party with a cryo, a pyro and a hydro, she will have 3 samples with each element. Does that mean there won’t be any geo sample at all in that case? meaning no c2 crit rate & no geo shred?
   Or does it say somewhere that she will always have a 4th geo sample?

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   • … it literally mentions that a geo sample would be retain because.. well she is a geo

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   • “When Xilonen is in the Nightsoul’s Blessing state, the Geo Source Sample she carries will remain active throughout.”
     I assume geo is always active

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   • You all got it wrong.

     First, her C2 doesn’t give crit rate to anyone beside geo characters. So no crit rate and geo res shred to Xilonen.

     Second, in a case where there are 3 different elements, all her geo samples will be changed to these elements, which means no geo sample. By ‘The Geo Source Sample she carries will remain active throughout’ it is implied that if you have a geo source sample on you, you don’t have to ever activate it by maxing out NS points, so it’s always active in mono geo teams for example, as long as you constantly use her skill.

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3. Why does people label her as a sub-dps? (Reddit and X threads)
   She requires to be on-field to work and doesn’t have any off-field attack

   If anything, she’s a dps/debuffer/healer with no sub-dps potential at all

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4. based from this kit, do u guys think she good in Navia team
   lets assume team composition:
   Navia, Xilonen, Furina, Bennet

   give full assessment if u guys would like
   thank u

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   • yes shes extremely good with navia, just the fact she can give the new 40% dmg bonus is great but she can also res shred geo. if you get c2, you also get 30% more crit rate so navia crits for once

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     • I have a question on the burst part, let say my team comps are Navia, Xilonen, Furina, and Bennet. there are two elements there, so it should be the healing right? but what if I press the Q before the E since the sample (hypothetical) doesn’t exist, wouldn’t the burst be the AOE one?

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       • yes, at the moment the ultimate dmg ticks only applies if theres a single element converted, so with navia furina bennet xilonen if you infuse 2 of the source samples she will heal, the rotation would probably be something like furina q xilonen q bennet q xilonen back to get max nightsoul and then navia (you can also do navias burst first)

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         • so in team more than 2 element, Xilonen burst are flexible( can choose either heal or aoe dmg) while team mono geo she only able perform the aoe?

         • as it turns out i actually read the question wrong, the correct answer would be if im right instantly infuses 2 samplers with hydro and pyro so it wont ever trigger the ultimate dmg and only trigger healing + the 3 red shreds for geo hydro and pyro

         • correct me if im wrong, the way i understand her kit is the shred only happen if use E n her nightsoul point depleted, so if Q the n E, the burst become aoe?

           i know when press burst she consume nightpoint and if press E she regain 45 nightsoul point based on passive

       • no. it would not switch to geo AoE. it will still retain the samplers for other elements, however a crystallize caused by her burst will not trigger effects of Scroll of the Hero since it needs thr reaction to happen during Nightsoul blessing.

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     • sorry 35 nightsoul point

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   • Don’t think benett is a good idea here, but yea, will work great with Navia.

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5. She doesn’t have a belly button, it’s completely and utterly over.
   I don’t understand how Genshin manages to keep ruining the very few characters that I want to like (Dehya, Nilou, Xilonen) while HSR is full of perfect characters.

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   • What do you mean? Her belly button is tucked in under her jorts, although not visible. What, you have some sort of navel fetish or something?

     Basically, she looks cool as is. I like her 70s aesthetic vibe with the apparel and rollerskates.

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     • Jorts is a funny word

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   • I swear to god, ya’ll complain over the most trivial things. If no belly button on a fictional character in a game riles you up, I fear your lack of IRL experience.

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     • trivial? do you have a source on that? source?

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   • i’ll tell you the same thing i told my ex husband in honeymoon: Darling it’s just a hole, you can ignore it

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   • She has a shadow above her belly button, the belly button exists even if hidden, we’re so back and rolling.

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6. Her design and or legs uncomfortably reminds me of a certain gyaru character from a certain flim*… 😭

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7. Ok, we will get Kazuha 2.0 but Geo.
   So, will we get Xiangling 2.0 soon?

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8. geo teams and reverse melt teams winning

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   • she can’t Heal on triple geo itto team and only sidegrade to wrio reverse melt and burnmelt team.
     it’s an upgrade for neuvillete instead 🙃
     surely neuvillete need more buff 🙃🙃

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9. Ok, so with her c0r1 and vv Kazuha in the same team there will be a lot of elemental RES shred and elemental DMG bonus. Is there some kind of diminishing returns regarding these buffs, or maybe elemental RES can’t go below 0%?

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   • there is always a dimishing return when you stack on the same motion value (true multiplier).

     dmg% is logic, the more you have the less the exact same amount does percentage wise to your overall dmg.

     for res shred: the standard res is -10% what means you deal 90% dmg. res adds % but it’s halfed after you reach 100%.
     so with 40% you get 10% + 90%=100% and the remaining 30% are halfed so you are at 115% dmg.
     with 80% res shred compared to 40% res shred it’s 135%. 135/115*100-100=~17% dmg increase for the second 40%
     the first 40% res shred in comparison gives 115/90*100-100=~28%

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   • dang it she sounds pretty strong especially the part where you don’t have to swirl the right elements and it also lasts longer. I don’t want to waste my pryo archon savings>.<

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   • Yeah, if resistance is at 0% any further decrease is halved.

     So if an enemy has 0% Base resistance and you get close to it with Zhongli’s shield that lowers res by 20%, then the enemy would end up with -10%

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   • It can absolutely go below 0% lol, but yes it may or may not be worth it. Enemies usually have 10% res by default so 10% – 36% (xilonen) – 40% (vv) = -66%

     I guess it depends on the character. Neuvillette might benefit from both whereas someone like Mualani probably won’t but we’ll see

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   • Yes, there is diminishing returns. Elemental DMG% was harder to reach before Kazuha and Furina, but with both you reach a point where it’s about equal to ATK%/EM (or whatever they scale on) for your goblet. Add her onto that and it’s too much, but I doubt you’d be running all 3. Res shred is more complicated, since the benefit is cut in half once you reach below 0%. You get a lot more out of 20% res shred against an enemy with 60% res shred, but it’s still very good since it’s a rarer stat to get (like def reduction). Generally just don’t run multiple supports for the same stats unless all your damage comes from transformative reactions.

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10. with that C1 and C2 bait, doubt Xilonen will be changed. it’s also pretty strategic, having Mavuika funds sapped by Xilonen and her promising C1 and C2.

    xilonen is absolutely meta changing, basically bringing geo to a whole new level. not only is she kazuha geo-coded, but also a geo Faruzan in a way. she also debuffs and with Scroll of Hero, buffs geo. and her C2 is like inverse of gorou C6. might be able to scrap Gorou for Xilonen, especially with her c2.

    you would have a whole assortment of cores. double geo core with Yun Jin + Xilonen, especially with the new def polearm would be pretty goated, and the 4.1 sword would help Ayato. could be a double geo ayato team in the making.

    navia teams also become insane. imagine that C2 with Navia. you may finally crit every other shotgun blast. Navia teams would just get so much better, maybe even making Bennett less of a necessity since Xilonen is more cracked than him, especially alongside Scroll artifact set.

    and Itto, finally Itto can get a suitable mono geo team with Furina. Xilonen’s healing should enable overhealing, and alongside Chiori, it should be pretty good. I think a double geo Itto team should also be good, especially if Xilone could generate enough energy.

    for flexible double geo, Xilonen would be a Yun Jin buff. the amount of def the polearm and having a def circlet would have would enable you to just run emblem on YunJin.

    imagine double geo team with Arlecchino. it’s gonna be insane. Or even Albedo teams get better. Albedo would still be supporting through crystallize for resistance to interruption and his EM for vape or Melt.

    if Mavuika can sustain pyro in forward vape, I can see Albedo + Mavuika + Xilonen + Mualani being a cracked team, or replace Albedo with Yun Jin.

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    • I don’t think a mono geo team with Xilonen as a sp will be posible. Her healing ability from Ultimate and Night Soul Regen from Talent all need at least 2 Source Samples that have undergone Elemental Conversion.

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      • yeah, realized that later on. honestly, I prefer Kachina on mono geo than Xilonen.

        actually, Xilonen may actually be better than Gorou so a double geo Itto team would be feasible. may not be thr case over C6 gorou, but C2 xilonen could be better than C6 Gorou and if you put Furina in team, Itto gets a better artifact set with Marechaussee over Husk. the absurd dmg bonus fusion between Xilonen and Furina will enable def goblet beign as good of not better than geo goblet.

        Xilonen may just work for Itto wet rock, or even an Itto hot rock since he still scales with atk and even his burst snapshots so Bennett buff retains even when he escapes the Inspiration field.

        ironically, Xilonen can be the mono geo dps, and even a xianyun plunge dps, sacrificing damage for buffing utility in place of Navia.

        it would be sweet to have more flexible teams for Itto and I think Xilonen can be just that for Itto havers without the C6 Gorous.

        Xilonen can also function as a driver which is pretty neat.

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    • Can we have exploration videos of the Natlan characters on here as well? Kinda wanna see Xilonen skating around like Jet Set Radio.

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      • There is a video on Redt. She looks cool when climbing and stop.

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    • One thing I should correct you on is her flexability, both in mono geo teams & in general.

      Its easy to miss but if you read the A1 passive she cant actually generate nightsoul points if the team only has 1 character of hydro/cryo/electro/pyro, you need at least 2.
      Without nightsoul she cant actually proc her res shred, and the geo res shred that applies when she’s in the nightsoul state is only active when she’s on field.

      In a mono geo team she’s more of an on fielder than anything, having a 9 second field time of boosted Def scaling NAs with a pretty sizeable nuke burst. But she’ll have no access to healing nor buffing potential.

      This effectivly restricts your team building, if you add more than 2 characters that aren’t in her required element she literally doesn’t work. This means mono geo + furina wont work, Navia + Xianyun teams wont work, her viability in aggrevate is also questionable, since kazuha’s personal damage is nothing to scoff at in those teams.

      It isn’t character ruining or anything, all of the teams I mentioned can be slotted differently to enable her, but she really isn’t the ultimate generic buffer healer that can slot into literally every team people are calling. It’s also actually literally important to mention she has NO GROUPING. I know nowadays people don’t amount to that much meaning but 50% of what makes kazuha the absolute unit that he is is his access to spammable, reliable grouping.

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      • People use Kazuha for his shred, nobody gives a shit about grouping. Especially when 99% of enemies are overweight, just like you.

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        • If you don’t need grouping and only shred like you said, why the f you bring Kazuha and not Zhongli instead lmao.

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      • She only needs 1 element other than geo to trigger defense shred, read her passives

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      • I mean the Skill text line literally has ” Xilonen can trigger these effects even when off-field.”and “When Xilonen is in the Nightsoul’s Blessing state, the Geo Source Sample she carries will remain active throughout”. on her skill, so for 3 geo team it should still work off-field. based on Kachina when she puts down her drill and swaps out you can still see the night soul blessing state on the party frame going down with each attack the drill does off-field.

        but maybe she works more like mualani, for 3 geo + flex so will see.

        2 geo + flex should definitely work cause you can activate A1 unless its also worded horribly wrong, so “Xilonen+Navia+furina/yelan and something else”, and also in rainbow team should just work, but she does trade Kazuha’s grouping ability if you have him which i don’t. for healing and probably more auto setups.

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        • that doesn’t seem to be the case for Xilonen though. xilonen team gameplay doesn’t show the nightsoul blessing gauge continuing when she is off field, so that is why we have that additional effect on her kit where reaching max causes all samplers to go active, done with E N2.

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    • I don’t understand if you’re saying she could heal in triple geo Itto team or not…

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    • I just hope they didn’t restrict her healing by needing two non-geo, non-dendo, and non-anemo unit. Her healing is still single target so she would not enable c0 Furina that well

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    • Xilonen is not more cracked than Bennett.

      Hope this helps.

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