734 responses to “Neuvillette”

1. Lore wise, this guy could solo all archons
   no diff

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2. Is this game honestly dying of at least the discussion of the game? Like Alhaitham has 42 pages, Wanderer has 37, Baizhu has 39, while the supposed Hydro Dragon has a pitiful 11 pages…. Glad I quit Genshin for HSR because wow the hyped died as soon as Fontaine came out and quite frankly Honkai is the better game so I can see why haha.

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   • Well… it’s not like this site is a well respected hub for the community. I know a lot of people run towards Project Amber or Hakushin these days to avoid the hyper-toxic comments. I mainly go here for familiarity’s sake. And occasionally to help out the rare person looking for advice.

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   • suck a dik

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   • imo honkai is boring but they do give better rewards, and yeah, since dehya discussion of the game has been going on a downward spiral

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   • Genshin is dying. People are quitting after Dehya’s incident. Plus the trash anniv reward, QoL suggestions implemented into another game (kekw), new characters are bad unless you whale their constellations and their weapon, 4* especially only good at c6, TCG is still useless, fishing is still useless, you still can’t pet animals, FUKING PAIMON STILL TALK TOO MUCH, no more fan service design for female characters – only for male characters, etc etc. Yeah fuk this game, the moment HSR dropped on PS5 I’m leaving Genshin Normiepact for good.

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     • the thing that pisses me off the most about what you’ve said is that they’re finally being more inclusive to people who like men by making more fanservice of them and you’re mad about that?? play the game if you like the story, don’t get pissed off for the most meaningless reasons

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       • You all have had a whole year of male character, quiet hypocrite.

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         • but there are still many more female characters?? I think they’re just finally catching up

         • No that’s false. In the entire Sumeru cycle there were more female characters released than male. You’re just a deceitful bunch who cherry-pick information to make it appear differently. You exclude 4 stars and exclude Dehya because she’s not limited and you create illusion that Hoyo didn’t release a female character in a year.
           No one a hycpocrite here. Except you Karen.

     • A nickname with “sigma” complaining about the lack of female fanservice is a joke

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     • My brother in Christ you jumped ship from normie garbage to equal normie garbage. If you want this “fan service” you’d play impact 3rd but nah keep playing your mass marketed trash

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   • I quit HSR after 2 months. my reasons.
     Bad artifact system cant use offset pieces.
     Tiny Maps nothing to explore.
     Boring repetitive battle system.
     But i gotta say it felt good cuz you can skip most of the quests and there is no paimon

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     • why do people hate the genshin quests so much but still play the game?? if you don’t like the story of the game, which should be your main reason for playing, then quit playing and don’t complain about it

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       • Because it’s a fun action-combat/adventure game with interesting mechanics and very fluid combat?

         If you forgot that exists, I don’t know what to say to you. If you didn’t, you’re just a troll.

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         • no I know that’s part of the game, and it’s one of my favorite parts. but you shouldn’t play the game if that’s your only reason. find another game, or just don’t complain. the most annoying thing is when people complain about a game they don’t even have to play. I understand that there are annoying parts of the game, and I don’t always wanna do the quests, but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna be disappointed in the whole game

         • Why are you telling me not to play a game I already said is fun? Go troll somewhere else, or better yet, stop trolling completely

       • I don’t really care about the story or character designs, but the combat (and exploration) is so good it carries the whole game for me.
         Plus story content is only about 5% of playtime so it’s hard to see that being the main selling point for a daily genshin enjoyer.

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         • yeah, that makes sense to me. I can’t relate, but I also can’t really judge someone playing for just that. I’m just trying to say that I’m sick of people complaining about the story of the game that they choose to play. it’s undeniably an extremely important part of the game, and there’s no way the developers of the game are just gonna remove the story completely and I definitely can’t see them letting you skip it in the future. if you don’t like the story and still choose to play, that’s fine. but if you hate that the story is there so much that you feel like complaining about it on this website, then you should either stop complaining or stop playing the game. I’m fine if people wanna critique the game and describe something that’s genuinely wrong with it, but there’s a difference between that and just complaining. and just complaining about things in this comment section is kinda inconsiderate to the people who genuinely came here because they’re interested in the character

       • i know you’re trying to be nice about it, but overall that’s just stupid and very conceited of you. There are many reasons ppl have to play the game, but the ultimate draw for ppl in the beginning was anime open world game. the over arching story is somewhat interesting but the quests are fluffed up piles of garbage with a few exceptions that actually add to the story. theres no question as to why ppl hate it and would much rather have the ability to skip most of it.

         also ppl most definately have the right to complain about it, especially in a forum about genshin. ppl have the right to talk about chars design, their place in the story, their power level and place in the meta, and all of the rest of the game.

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         • I understand that discussion is the point of this comment section, but the majority of the people complaining here are talking about their opinions on the overall quality of the game. they can do that somewhere else, not in this specific area. I’m fine seeing the problems people have with the characters, I just think that complaining about the story is completely pointless. I don’t think they even have the right to complain if they’re still playing. if it’s genuinely a problem that needs to be fixed. the things they’re complaining about are problems they have that are never going to be fixed. I know that I’m speaking from an entirely different perspective from the people here since every single part of the game means so much to me, but I genuinely do want to be able to understand their perspective as well. my first comment came off as a bit rude, and I wish I didn’t say what I said, but I still believe it’s very strange for someone to play a game that they only like specific parts of

       • i never told you specifically to stop playing. all you did was reply to my comment. I know I did say you shouldn’t play the game if you don’t like the story, and I shouldn’t have said that. I understand that people have many reasons for playing, and my perspective has changed a bit already. my only problem is when people hate it so much that they feel the need to pointlessly let everyone know

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   • imagine quitting a f2p mobile game just because the game is dying due to “lack of discussion”.
     what a joke

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   • Sooooo, please tell me, WAHT ARE U DOING HERE????

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   • No offense HSR combat is fancier version of TCG in genshin which gets boring in no time.

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   • You’re not a honkai enjoyer you only play fucking star rail, you jumped ship to a more popular “new” thing, like every other fake honkai fan.

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   • You call yourself a honkai enjoyer when you’re just a normie who jumped ship to a more popular product churned out by a multi billion dollar company because they marketed it, and have probably never even touched impact 3rd. Kindly shut up

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3. my yelan has 100:233. neuvillette has the same amount on his weapon and ascention as yelan and at c2 with mh set he has 114 more cvalue what means he reaches 100:347. with circlet main stat you get 66.2 cvalue and with hp% you get 6.847,87 hp.
   now lets be very optimistic and say neuvillette has 38k hp (less is even better for hp main stat) he gets 1/(38000/6847,87)= 0.18 -> 18% dmg out of a hp circlet. with a cvalue circlet it’s 1/(447/66.2)=0.148 -> 14.8% dmg. with his insane cvalues he might end up with such a high diminishing return that even hp% is a better stat at least without hp% buffer currentely in the game.

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   • yeah I think it’s better to use HP circlet. At least for those who are using his Signature Weapon. I think for lowspenders or F2P crit circlet is still the way to go especially if they are using Prototype Amber or even the new BattlePass catalyst

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   • I made a mistake. it’s 1/(380.8/66.2) or 447/380,8 = 0.174 -> 17.4% dmg it’s still less but you really need good crit values and c2+signature weapon. otheriwise go for crate main stat.

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     • one thought: instead of going for a hp circlet you also could go for hp in the substats and go crate for circlet. then you only need 28% crate with mh set to get your 100% crate and it’s way easier to get hp, cdmg and crate (because then they have the same value) via substats compared to only crate and cdmg. if you have alle 3 of them already on a level 0 artifact while leveling up it’s a 23% chance that all stats end up on one of these.

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4. Ahhh the bipolarity of Honeys commentsection… So we have the: “OMG new meta he powercreep everything! Abyss solo god! 36 Stars in 5 minutes! Pull now or regret forever!!!” and on the other side the: “Neuvimeh! He is Hydro-Dehya! He so bad you get kidney stones when you pull!”

   Just having some coffee, waiting for release, then playing around with Trial a bit, play his Storyquest and decide if I want him or not… But having fun with hilarious comments until then so keep going. ^^

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   • 5 min 36 stars is pretty bad tbh so guess he sucks. thanks Nyntari!

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     • You suck if you think he can get a 3 second 9 star of floor 12

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       • lulz

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   • The chaddest of the legion of chad in honey comment section, I tip my hat for you. The most important thing like you said is wait, wait until his release wait until people find his best team ON RELEASE, wait until people build him properly and see if you like him or not.

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   • exactly! get the character if you like them, I don’t I don’t understand how people can base a character’s worth on that kind of stuff

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   • This is why Honey Impact is the best. So much entertainment in the comment section.

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5. Ugliest hydro dps. Wtf is this long hair male obsession mihoyo?! Easy skip and save for Focalors.

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   • Why save for mega-fischl?

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     • bitch she hasn’t even been LEAKED yet and you’re complaining?!?

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   • why are you so picky on gacha, are you poor? just collecting all character hahaha

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     • indeed

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   • i hope every man released next has long luscious clumps of hair. you are a coward

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   • as a man with long hair myself, cry about it, we exist

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6. he really looks like he’s dependant on c1 and/or signature weapon to be actually good, kinda lame

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   • very strange, isn’t it?

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     • or is he? c1 lets u play with another hydro, but thing is, as of right now, we dont have good 2nd hydro for him. And complaining about his signature being his BiS, is the same as complaining about grass being green

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       • no one complained that signature was bis, just said that he is too dependant on it
         and c1 also allows double electro which currently is better than double hydro or many of his multi element teams

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         • his signature isn’t that outstanding compared to f.e. alhaitham’s. and why is double electro so good?! because of transformative reactions? lul. his whole kit is currently broken and still needs a nerf and he clearly doesn’t want transformative reactions but buffs for himself.
           without c1 it’s really hard getting 3 stacks out of the passive because you need 4 different elements otherwise it depends if the enemie has an element and if not you you need 3 differenent elements besides hydro. easy reacions while neuvillette is active would be crystallisation+hydro (zhongli f.e.), swirl+hydro (kazuha f.e.), bloom (baidou, yaoyao f,e) because they don’t interact with each other.. when you have electro in your team there is a certain possibility that you waste one of these reactions on electro. with c1 you only need 2 reactions and the best case scenario are still passive reactions so zhongli and kazuha f.e. (both buff dmg, zhongli buffs 20 resi shred + 35% motion value kazuha buffs 40 resi shred and +40 motion value) but now you can use a hydro chars like mona and other stong chars like (most likely) furina in the near future. if you do that they not just buff your neuvillette but also grant you hydro synergy.
           so with c0 kazuha, zhongli, baidou/yaoyao.
           with c1 kazuha ,zhongli, hydro char.

         • uh yes, you don’t need to explain his kit to me man i know how to read
           it seems like you missed the part where i specified c1 => double electro
           and it seems like you didn’t read electro resonance either, double electro is indeed good because of the reactions, except it’s not only because of reaction damage but for the very needed er (which the signature also gives, hence his dependency on it)
           double electro is also good because fischl + beidou is a really strong core by itself and beidou also brings some things he likes like interruption resistance, damage reduction and a small shield, and at that point it’s better to just double swirl than dendro shenanigans or crystallize
           mona is indeed a decent choice but her er needs and her low uptime kinda hinder the performance of the team more than help it, even if both are hydro they are still very er hungry with low particle generation
           pretty much no other hydro has synergy with him, furina will most likely have, but gotta wait more for that
           and that part about electro stealing reactions is probably gonna even worse with dendro since instead of coexisting with hydro it might end up eating up all of his application leaving you with an inert team and no element to react with

         • what? bloom is a hydro reaction? what are you talking about? you have hydro swirl, hydro crystallisation and bloom all are hydro related and don’t interact with each other. electro still can snatch wrong reactions and hydro chars gives more energy for neuvillette. so tell me how 2 times electro does a better job with 1 Elemental particle then a hydro unit doing the right hydro particles?!

         • You guys are forgetting one thing. His charge attack when fully charged will do multiple instances of damage. So a team like Neuv C0, Venti, Rosaria, and Albedo is also possible

         • philos my guy i already told you how 😭, literally my previous comment answers all those questions man its not that hard to read properly

         • He isn’t dependent on C1 though. You do know we have elementally innate opponents right? We got slimes, heck, even armored crabs to worry about, and also the overgrown and shatterstone breacher primus. You’d get vape off a armored crabs regardless of teammates, and also bloom off of overgrown breacher primus. The opponent roster is increasing in its variety of elementally innate opponents.

           Thus, you can suit an elemental resonance team when the situation is suitable for it and acquire the 3 stacks of Draconic Glories.

           Additionally, the existence of the enhanced pneumousia amplifiers can create additional reactions for Neuvillette. Those amplifiers apply a persisting elemental aura on them. We’ve had the pyro and cryo elemental amplifiers.

           So by situation, he doesn’t need C1 for max stacks and get an elemental resonance. Plus, resistance to interruption can be carefully avoided with shields. shield-healers, etc. I suggest DIona for her additional ability of healing and frozen’s better utility than crystallize off of Zhongli. The geo x hydro elemental reaction serves no purpose other than a stack of Draconic Glories whereas Diona can be built thick shields and a battery with a mov speed buff that actually helps, and a doable shield alongside freeze having a CC effect.

         • yeah that’s why I said and/or, depends on the situation mostly, as everything does, but at the same it also kinda depends on which element the enemy has and if it lets it have hydro aura, if it doesn’t then he won’t be able to trigger other hydro reactions

           I do agree that cryo, specially Diona and Rosaria, can be really useful for him. Another thing about Zhongli is that people assume his res shred is active all the time but unless you’re at melee range it won’t be, so less points towards using both in the same team imo, considering Neuv’s range and AoE

   • Well, at C0 he needs 3 other elements to maximize his damage passive. This essentially makes him a reaction driver. If you want Hydro resonance you need C1. C2 is obvious as is C3.

     He’ll still be strong. He deals aoe dmg. His scaling is good.

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     • He wouldn’t need 3 elements based off of team. You can pretty much guarantee an elemental reaction off of other entities like opponents shields and innate auras. You get vape against pyro slimes, bloom off of overgrown breacher primus, crystallize against a shatterstone breacher primus, electro charged against electro mitachurl, and pull off more shenanigans because Abyss is including enhhanced pneumousia amplifiers. You’re really not gonna worry too much about it. We already encoutnered the amplifiers’ pyro and cryo versions, thus freeze and vape are guaranteed to trigger.

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   • They want to repeat Hu Tao: inconvenient playstyle until you pull C1

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     • at least tao has many decent weapon alternatives unlike this guy

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7. voicelines doko

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   • your ass is doko

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8. Which one better for him? Sacrificial Jade r1 or Lost prayer?

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   • sacrificial better

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     • its becomes better at r3+, r1 r2 is worse than LP

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   • Sac Jade as long as you rotate properly for the passive, Neuvi loves the HP. I guess if you worry about that weapons passive being useless in co-op, Lost Prayer is a phenomenal backup option.

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9. Comet azur

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   • XD

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10. How much crit rate does he need considering I wil use Marechaussee Hunter on him?

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    • Search on the net the same question asked 1 trillion times

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      • thanks you helped me so much

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    • I think 50% CR is the best to stop at

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      • just dont go byonde 60% CR, bcoz it will be a waste

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    • Well Marechaussee Hunter increased crit rate by 12% for 5s, and stacks a max 3 times for a total of 36% crit rate. It’s honestly a cracked artifact set as long as you can consistently change the hp value. So only go for 30-40% crit rate and stick to a crit dmg circlet.

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    • oh god this responds they are all unproofed bull****
      it’s a knowen fact that 1:2 ratio is the best mathematical approach. the reason for 1:2 is because you get 2 time more cdmg then crate in this game and ratios always need to have a equilibrium to be most efficant. f.e. 50 x 50 has a higher value than 55 x 45.
      if we do this with cratio in genshin: 50 crate and 100 cdmg -> 0.5 x 1 always beats every redistribution like f.e 0.45 x 1.1 or 0.55 x 0.9.
      so the best case scenario for your neuvillett would be: your untouched crate you see in the char screen + 36 crate equals half of your cdmg. with minimum 200 cdmg it’s 64 crate after that every other crate value is wasted because you hit 100% crate.
      the real formula to calculate your dmg from crit stat is: cdmg/100 x crate/100 + 1 = true dmg multiplier

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    • i think hod it’s better than Marechaussee Hunter for him

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      • no marechaussee is way better look at the graphs and stats

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    • my yelan has 100:233. neuvillette has the same amount on his weapon and ascention as yelan and at c2 with mh set he has 114 more cvalue what means he reaches 100:347. with circlet main stat you get 66.2 cvalue and with hp% you get 6.847,87 hp.
      now lets be very optimistic and say neuvillette has 38k hp (less is even better for hp main stat) he gets 1/(38000/6847,87)= 0.18 -> 18% dmg out of a hp circlet. with a cvalue circlet it’s 1/(447/66.2)=0.148 -> 14.8% dmg. with his insane cvalues he might end up with such a high diminishing return that even hp% is a better stat. quesion is how much do hp buff chars in (hopefully) the near future increase the hp value? I guess from now on I just keep all my hp mainstat circlet with crate and cdmg on them.

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      • hey, this wasn’t a reply?! i started my own comment

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    • min 30% – 40% max. Going over 50% + 36% = 86% crit rate with MH stack is good, but not as good as getting more crit dmg.

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