734 responses to “Neuvillette”

1. Looking forward to Friday when Hoyo officially reveals his kit. The thing is that I may actually wait to pull for Neuvillette until the skill set for Furina comes out, since I plan at a minimum to get every Archon (I do have all 4 of the current Archons now).

   If Furina looks like to be more of a hydro support or sub DPS then I’ll probably go for Neuvillette so I can have a strong main DPS who can take advantage of her talents. On the other hand, if Furina has strong on-field/main DPS potential I may just wait for his re-run and save my primo/wallet. The Hydro MC has some components of both (albeit at a bottom tier level) so I’m not sure how to go.

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   • his kit is posted on this page

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   • Usually the archons have had a sub-dps/support role, except for Raiden. Furina doesn’t seem to be particularly adept at fighting, since she uses Miss Buttons (I forgot her name) for duels. So I doubt she’ll be a main dps.

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     • I mean, I wouldn’t entirely say it’s inaccurate to say she is. Raiden is a support to some extent

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     • Ackhtually Raiden is the perfect hybrid dps/support. You can build her full EM for hyperbloom/overloaded.

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2. Do you guys think that lost prayer would be good on neuvillette?

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   • It’s one of the few 5* weapons that can actually work on him. Stacking elemental DMG boost for an onfield unit fits him just about perfectly. The Crit Rate can be a bit tricky if using Hunter set if you have a lot of Crit Rate rolls, but generally it’s fine for that too. Leaves more room for HP, ER, and Crit DMG rolls.

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     • That’s actually great for me since now I wont need to pull for his signature weapon. Even though his weapon is always going to be his BiS, it’s nice for me to have another option. I also got a 50CV HP Sands and now i need to just grind for a full marchaussee set now

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     • How would you think sacred prayer stacks up against R5 Prototype amber, Jadefall Splendor, Rite of the eternal flow, and widsith r5?

       I want to figure out which weapon to use on him if I get too many critrate rolls

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       • Signature (Eternal Flow) wins outright, huge difference between it and other weapons.

         Widsith is mediocre outside of being a Crit DMG stat stick (If you thought a non-reaction-heavy unit like Ningguang only using 2/3 rng buffs was bad, Neuvi can only use one buff), i’d place Proto Amber over it for consistency and the heal/energy utility. Even if you look past the RNG, it’s less potent if you’re using 4pc Marechaussee. You’ll probably be using a Crit DMG circlet regardless, and that plus Neuvi’s innate Crit DMG stat makes Widsith less impressive over Amber, especially Neuvi loves extra HP where possible.

         Jadefall is above most of the 4* options, being right below Wrio’s signature and Lost Prayers.

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     • you honestly will only need like 30 crit rate from substats before you overcap on crit rate, so you could essentially have feather and flower with crit and crit dmg, with either sands or goblet with full on crit dmg, ER, and HP. and circlet is crit dmg to which you should prioritize HP%.

       perhaps an HP goblet is better for Neuv since the value it brings scales larger than hydro dmg bonus, which you get from his A4, Lost Prayers, and additionally, Kazuha.

       for Neuv on lost prayers, maximized crit dmg rolls and HP rolls is just a lot more value. 36 crit rate from Hunter set, 33.1 from Lost Prayers, and 20 to 30 crit rate from substats would get you a satisfactory 89 crit rate. I honestly would prefer an HP goblet than hydro dmg goblet since there are hardly any supports or passives that buffs max HP, but there are many sources for elemental dmg bonus.

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3. How many hits does his charged do? the scaling seems high but do we know how many hits it does and the icd?

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   • I don’t know about ICD but I know it hits 8 times

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   • 8 times within 3 seconds.

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4. People are trying sooo hard to doompost Neuvillette but they can’t because the numbers don’t lie, he is in fact very cracked and will replace some characters on the top dps ranking. Truth hurts I know, but people have to learn to accept it. =)

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   • How is he will be the top DPS ? I still can’t find him has a chance to do it, i’m not doompost anyone (doompost for what) but rather than design, i always choose char depends on their kit.

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5. But I don’t understand guys.
   Why MH is his best set at c0, with only 3 sec of charged atk? You can’t keep those stacks easily so you still need a good crit rate chunk
   At this point either you don’t have a good set already or you have a cracked new one, otherwise it doesn’t worth it (but ofc at C6)

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   • no, it’s contrary. with below c6 you can pick up 3 droplets immeditely what heals you 3 times then you can’t pick up droplets anymore. after this you enter Equitable Judgment immeditely and you dmg yourself every 0.5 sec untill 50% hp. skill and burst regenerate 9 droplets so you can go for 3 instant charges full powered by MH set because you get healed 3 times immeditely for every instant Equitable Judgment and since you aren’t c6 the game hinders you taking all droplets at once. with c6 your problem is you pick up all your healing at once, then you will very fast cap at 50% hp and then you lack healing to be able to dmg yourself again so you need a healer for utilizing MH set at it’s full potential with c6.

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     • Damn, thanks for the explanation man 😉

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6. According to the leak-scene he (and seemingly HuTao) gets Fischl, Xingqiu, AND Diona as banner mates?? And with his 5* weapon being a Crit DMG stat stick like Redhorn and Aqua, the weapon banner is gonna be spicy too. Lord have mercy…

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   • I just need to know if Neuvi will be in the first or second half of 4.1. If you have any idea that would be great. I would like to get a jump on farming books and weapon mats.

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     • Current Info states he and Tao would be first half, with Wariotheseggzy and Venti on the second.

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     • That same leaks that came out with the banner characters, speculated that it’s first half. It’s not 100% reliable, but it may be true.

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7. Don’t listen to paid hoyoverse’s salespersons trying to sell Hydro reskinned Dehya to you, currently Mehvillette needs his R1 or R5 Sac Jade just to do 1/2 damage of F2P Childe alone in international

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   • what are you on about mate?

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   • and who’s paying you? neuvillette can do like 300k to 400k or so damage *by himself*. childe can’t even manage that much without bennett xiangling and fucking kazuha

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   • Don’t listen to this goon working for the childe hivemind, you have to be deep in the trenches of cope to genuinely think neuvillete does literally half damage compared to childe, like goddamn childe already slots himself into childe national arguably the strongest team in the game you don’t need to shit on every other hydro 5 star to feel more comfortable in your character choice

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   • the smartest way to interact with trolls is ignoring them but honestly I’m just so annoyed. stop it. leave the boys alone, both of them, and find a job

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   • You are sad Childe is the worst Hydro DPS in the game after Ayato and Neuv

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   • does way more damage than Childe, mate. childe’s dps is severely limited by situation, whereas it quadratically increases per extra opponent hit so it’s better off in AoE. neuvillette does high raw damage in an AoE.

     besides that, there gonna come a time where newer catalysts can close the gap difference between R1 siignature and R5 Sacrificial jade vs. the 4* options. also, lot prayers isn’t bad on him. could likely use an HP goblet instead with oversaturated elemental dmg bonus with a lack of max HP. so with Lost Prayers, you would cap at 30 crit rate from substats, and run an HP goblet, plus the mov speed is a pretty nice QoL to his CA movement.

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8. At his current state, he is the best DPS in Genshin and potentially can be a lot stronger when Furina released. Pull or regret.

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   • regret what? doing abyss 3 or 4 seconds faster when we already clear it anyways? i get the meta stuff its fun and all but if you already can clear without him then i doubt somebody will regret even if he is top dps

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   • Regret? why exactly?!

     He is ugly imo. Not like there’s anything literally any thing in this game including abyss that requires this character to complete.

     A character in beta and here Mr. dilusional barking he is best whatever and potentially can be whatever when another character that’s not even in beta comes out. LMAO.

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   • and since he is Fountain character he can heal him self and that’s mean he can solo every abyss floor with his kamehameha

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9. with the way i only have 1 decent-ish piece of Marachausset (just 27 CV) after weeks of farming and using so many fragiles I think I’m going to settle with a 4pc Heart of Depth. Neuv why are you so mean

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   • I feel you, I have only one feather (about the same CV) and a CD circlet with … 3.9 CR at lvl 20. Farming is great (or not)

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     • good news is with Lost Prayers on Neuv, you wouldn’t miss out on so much crit rate, since he already reaches 69 (nice) crit rate with Lost Prayers and Hunter. so like 5 crit rate for 3 pieces, like goblet and circlet, and 10 crit rate on one piece is left. I’ll probably settle for HP goblet, a crit dmg circlet on set, and like 20+ crit dmg artifacts and leave it at that. will be easy going 80/160-180, and rest of it will be active grinding.

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10. Seems like another Xiangling vape enabler. Fr Xiangling always gets buffed every update 💀💀💀

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    • I can’t wait for the pyro archon to come out just for her to somehow buff xiangling instead of outclassing her

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      • jokes aside I’m starting to think that might be true
        Xiangling is literally the only pyro offield DPS. When we get a new pyro character he is onfield or he also requires Xiangling. What’s the hoyoverse’s problem? we definitely have enough drivers for XL so why not to add her replacement? I just don’t get it tbh

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    • Xiangling can’t do anything withour her boss , Bennet anyway so yeah there’s still someone above her

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    • I legit can’t stand Xiangling as a combat unit nowadays. Strong as can be, but she gotten so boring, which I didn’t even think would be a problem back during Inazuma and Sumeru’s release. She’s been benched despite me being a Childe and Lyney enthusiast. Bennett is right there with her. If it wasn’t for Lyney needing potent and consistent HP restoration from Pyro teammates he’d be benched full time.

      I can smile seeing her, Benny, and Guoba in events and cutscenes, but they’re just not doing it for me in gameplay. Xingqiu, on the other hand, is completely safe since Hoyo decided not to gatekeep off-field Hydro (they even made Yelan for goodness sake). Keeps him fresher, since he’s not always mandatory for Hydro related teams.

      The Pyro roster needs some serious revitalizing, the lack of Off-field DPS and healers is ridiculous. It’s been like 3 years now, Im begging Fontaine’s era of patches to have 3-4 Pyro releases to even things out… Any future Pyro unit that can restore HP to allies without needing Prototype Amber or deal any usable amount of off-field damage is getting all of my primos.

      Im actually quite thankful Neuvillette doesn’t need Bennett and only has surface level synergy with XL (Heck, the Benny/XL duo actually hurts Neuvi’s personal damage at C0). At least he’s trying something different.

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      • I mean, hoyo has no incentive to make more pyro units, they created both the best sub-dps and the best healer/buffer overall for the element in one go, and i doubt they will ever make a bennett or xiangling sidegrade, don’t even mention upgrade.

        I see lots of people complaining about how sick and tired they are of bennett and xl but if given the chance to switch them up for newer, downgraded versions, most people wouldn’t make the change and hoyo knows that.

        So we’re kinda stuck in a loop here, and i don’t see anything being done about it.

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        • but why downgrade? why not their better 5* versions?

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          • They’ll probably savethose roles for the pyro archon and a dedicated support.

      • What’s absurd is that there is a large lack of pyro batteries. It has only been Bennett this whole time. Off-field pyro dpses are rare too. Most are upfront DPS and Yanfei is just lucky enough to have a solid C4 to enable her to be a pyro shielder.

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    • Not true in the least. Neuv has standard ICD on his kamehameha and it doesn’t hit as fast as the animation appears it would. He would however be a strange but viable hyperbloom driver, especially being able to do so from distance. He also wants a rainbow team to achieve his maximum personal damage and wants to be healed to achieve max self hydro dmg bonus.

      IN a xiangling vape, you are bound to use 2 pyro, and Bennett doesn’t give any gains to Neuv outside the healing which encases Neuv inside the circle. Probably for the best to have a shielder insteead since any CA spammer without innate hyperarmor is gonna get interrupted and lose the CA.

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      • I think that a Hyperbloom Shower is gonna be a super fun & strong team for him!
        Neuvillette (standard DPS build/ bloom enable)
        Shogun (hyperbloom trigger with nilou BiS artifact set, EM spam)
        Nahida (dendro res shred w/ deepwood, buffer, EM spam)
        dendro flex (baizhu, Yaoyao, Collei, kirara. for constant dendro application, healing or shield)
        He’s gonna BLAST everything while enabling bloom and then Raiden’s E is gonna trigger the cores send them flying and KICK ASS
        HEE HEE

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