149 responses to “Иансан”

1. Iansan looks pretty great, probably one of the best 4*s we have gotten since 1.0. So at lvl 13 burst, she’ll give 810 atk, 40% elemental dmg (from scroll), 25% dmg bonus from C6, and its portable, plus she has sufficient ways to get her ER reqs met. You could use new event weapon, Fav, engulfing lightning, or calamity queller.

   And at lvl 13, you wanna aim for 3k atk, which is doable when Shenhe, a same weapon type character, also builds the same way. Iansan sounds insane for overloaded, quicken, quickburn Kinich, superconduct/physical, taser, and maybe even freeze teams.

   question comes down to how much movement, or how many meters do you need to move each second to maintain above 42 nightsoul points.

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   • I do love how they’re adding a new element to combat: movement as a positive. It has been something generally avoided and recommended against (walking = not attacking; “stand at X spot in Abyss so that enemies come to you”). Now that I think about it, Natlan generally has had a lot of movement (Mualani, Kinich, and Mavuika get a lot of movement during regular combat; Xilonen could get a little bit), but it hasn’t been rewarded yet.

     Hm, I wonder if vertical movement will count, or if it’s only horizontal walking movement. Will Ororon/Citlali jumping up count? Varesa plunges? Keqing et al. blinking to a spot count? Xianyun flight? Xiao pogo?

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     • Surely being released in the same patch as Varesa and Xianyun rerun for a reason.

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     • I wonder if Mavuika’s CA spin counts, since her own hitbox (for enemies to damage her) remains stationary, but her model (and the spot where enemies aim) is moving.

       Also does it count distance covered or displacement? For example, if you walk in a circle, or jump up and down, you would have moved some distance, but your displacement would be 0.

       For Keqing et al. I think they are simply movements, but the character model becomes invisible from skill effects, since they cannot go through walls or ‘hard’ enemies like Ruin Guards.

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2. Another melee fighter in the lore with boring animations & gameplay

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3. I will do a complete breakdown for the “perfect” Iansan build and I will also explain any confusing aspects:

   -> Iansan is basically Bennett without the healing (she recovers basically around 4800~7200HP in total from what I understand)
   -> Iansan’s ATK buff is very similar to Bennett’s, when both use a 4* weapon!
   -> Her full-power buff needs 42 Night Soul Points minimum, but it seems easy to get, when she is C2
   -> At C6 she gives the current active character an additonal 25DMG% buff!!!
   -> The low ATK is scaling is basically 0,5*current NSP, meaning it caps at 20,5% with 41 Night Soul Points
   -> You have to hit the 42 NSP threshold for this buff to be as strong as Bennett’s, which isn’t hard tbh

   To compare numbers (Bennett (Lv.80), C1 (Lv.10)/C5 (Lv.13), Festering Desire/Fleuve Cendre, Noblesse Set || Iansan (Lv.90), C2 (Lv.10)/C5 (Lv.13), Fav. Lance, Noblesse Set):

   -> Bennett Q, 12s duration, 15s CD, 60 E.Cost, (Gets additionally extremely high healing!)
   C1: ATK buff is 969~1031 ATK, depending on the current active character (base ATK variance: 688~1000)
   C5: ATK buff is 1034~1156 ATK, depending on the current active character (base ATK variance: 688~1000)

   -> Iansan Q, 12~15s duration (C6!), 15s CD, 70(55) E.Cost (C1!), (Basically a 55 cost in C1 & pretty easy to build like Bennett. No good healing, but gets a big buff in C6!)
   C2: ATK buff is 1034~1190 ATK, depending on the current active character (base ATK variance: 688~1000)
   C5: ATK buff is 1154~1310 ATK, depending on the current active character (base ATK variance: 688~1000)

   [HOW TO BUILD IANSAN]

   -> Make her Lv.90 & level her Q to Lv.10
   -> Get her C2! This is her equivalent to Bennett’s C1. It gives her Q the extra 30ATK% buff to the current active character!
   -> Run Favonius Lance!!!
   -> Your goal with her is to hit 2555 total ATK in C2~C4 or 3000 total ATK in C5+, when using the Burst
   -> Run Noblesse with main stats: ATK%/ATK%/Cr.Rate% & sub stats: ER%/CR%/(ATK% up to 50% only for C5+)
   -> C2 Iansan does not need any additional ATK% with Fav. Lance!
   She basically requires 155,9 ATK%, which she gets from my build:
   Noblesse (+20%), her Lv.Up stat (+24%), her C2 (+20%), artifact main stat (46,6% * 2) = total to 157,2ATK%
   -> When you hit C5 you need a an additional 50ATK% from the sub stats, in order to hit the buff threshold. This can also be mixed and matched with base ATK; we basically need an additional 445ATK on her, so try to prioritize ER%/Cr.Rate% for Energy recovery & look out for artifacts that have some ATK% and base ATK on them.
   This is optimal!!!

   TL;DR: Lv.90 Iansan, C2(!), Q Lv.10_13, Favonius Lance, Noblesse Set (ATK%/ATK%/Cr.Rate%, sub ER%/Cr.Rate%/(ATK% for C5+))

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   • Blud really said to use Noblesse on a Natlan support.

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   • Fischl mogs her in terms of damage.
     Xilonen/Kazuha mogs her in terms of utility.
     She isn’t the generic elctro support you were hoping for. She was only designed to support Varesa and that’s it.

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4. I will do a complete breakdown for the “perfect” Iansan build and I will also explain any confusing aspects:

   -> Iansan is basically Bennett without the healing (she recovers basically around 4800~7200HP in total from what I understand)
   -> Iansan’s ATK buff is very similar to Bennett’s, when both use a 4* weapon!
   -> Her full-power buff needs 42 Night Soul Points minimum, but it seems easy to get, when she is C2
   -> At C6 she gives the current active character an additonal 25DMG% buff!!!
   -> The low ATK is scaling is basically 0,5*current NSP, meaning it caps at 20,5% with 41 Night Soul Points
   -> You have to hit the 42 NSP threshold for this buff to be as strong as Bennett’s, which isn’t hard tbh

   To compare numbers (Bennett (Lv.80), C1 (Lv.10)/C5 (Lv.13), Festering Desire/Fleuve Cendre, Noblesse Set || Iansan (Lv.90), C2 (Lv.10)/C5 (Lv.13), Fav. Lance, Noblesse Set):

   -> Bennett Q, 12s duration, 15s CD, 60 E.Cost, (Gets additionally extremely high healing!)
   C1: ATK buff is 969~1031 ATK, depending on the current active character (base ATK variance: 688~1000)
   C5: ATK buff is 1034~1156 ATK, depending on the current active character (base ATK variance: 688~1000)

   -> Iansan Q, 12~15s duration (C6!), 15s CD, 70(55) E.Cost (C1!), (Basically a 55 cost in C1 & pretty easy to build like Bennett. No good healing, but gets a big buff in C6!)
   C2: ATK buff is 1034~1190 ATK, depending on the current active character (base ATK variance: 688~1000)
   C5: ATK buff is 1154~1310 ATK, depending on the current active character (base ATK variance: 688~1000)

   [HOW TO BUILD IANSAN]

   -> Make her Lv.90 & level her Q to Lv.10
   -> Get her C2! This is her equivalent to Bennett’s C1. It gives her Q the extra 30ATK% buff to the current active character!
   -> Run Favonius Lance!!!
   -> Your goal with her is to hit 2555 total ATK in C2~C4 or 3000 total ATK in C5+, when using the Burst
   -> Run Noblesse with main stats: ATK%/ATK%/Cr.Rate% & sub stats: ER%/CR%/(ATK% up to 50% only for C5+)
   -> C2 Iansan does not need any additional ATK% with Fav. Lance!
   She basically requires 155,9 ATK%, which she gets from my build:
   Noblesse (+20%), her Lv.Up stat (+24%), her C2 (+20%), artifact main stat (46,6% * 2) = total to 157,2ATK%
   -> When you hit C5 you need a an additional 50ATK% from the sub stats, in order to hit the buff threshold. This can also be mixed and matched with base ATK; we basically need an additional 445ATK on her, so try to prioritize ER%/Cr.Rate% for Energy recovery & look out for artifacts that have some ATK% and base ATK on them.
   This is optimal!!!

   TL;DR: Lv.90 Iansan, C2(!), Q Lv.10_13, Favonius Lance, Noblesse Set (ATK%/ATK%/Cr.Rate%, sub ER%/Cr.Rate%/(ATK% for C5+))

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   • This is awesome, thank you! Really helped me understand the character from a practical gameplay perspective, rather than a kit’s nuts-and-bolts perspective.

     I wonder how this will change throughout the beta. Do you have a spreadsheet? Would you be able to give us updates on those numbers? E.g., BetaV1 (C2: ATK buff is 1034~1190 ATK) -> BetaV2 (C2: ATK buff is 1000~1080 ATK)

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     • Yeah, I will keep watch for the v2 and v3 changes and update the number!
       I don’t have a spreadsheet, I just calculate it quickly, as it isn’t very complex to do so (compared to DMG calculation against enemies).

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     • I’ve seen leaks in telegram yesterday and read that Iansan will get buffs (not mentioned what are they yet). So she prob would be even better. I guess it would be not atk buff but healing or maybe particle generation.

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5. I don;t get why they make Iansan a 4*, but Varena a 5*?
   A travail character, one of the six heroes is a 4*, but a character who has never appeared in the story is a 5*? Both are same element and from the same tribe too, and not like Varesa is some important lore character either.
   What was literally stopping them from making Iansan be a 5*? I don’t get it? Wouldn’t it be way more cool to make Iansan 5*? Players have been yapping about her since 1.0 due to travail, so why not make her be cool?

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   • Because one is cutesy and thicc while the other one just isn’t.
     That is the logic and agenda Hoyo uses and follows.

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     • Pretty much. I think of it from a business perspective: 5-stars are Hoyo’s money-makers. People WILL pay money for them if they are desirable, and what makes a character desirable is generally: outstanding combat strength, character appeal, and/or sex appeal. So making Iansan a strong Bennett-like buffer makes her very appealing.

       On the other hand, appeal-killers will cut into the profit. I don’t know whether Hoyo has bias against dark-skinned characters, but the CN player base sure does seem to. Since Iansan’s appearance is locked in since the Travail trailer, Hoyo doesn’t want to change her appearance. But they can’t make her TOO strong because Bennett is already a beast; surpassing him too much would be crazy for the game as a whole (why pull for New-Strong-DPS when my old DPS does great with Bennet AND Iansan? Does enemy strength need to scale to crazy new heights because there are 80 characters who do moderate-good damage, and a handful of teams with both Bennett and Iansan that do INSANE damage?).

       So Iansan *as a commercial product* is stuck in this bad profitability setup: it has downsides (appeal), and it can’t over-compensate with upsides (strength). Seems like this is a Ningguang sort of situation, where the character was always intended to be a 5-star but business realities forced this part of the game to change.

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       • true but also look at it this way,

         Supports remain useful even at 4 stars, Yansan is a support.
         4 stars have more recurring reruns that 5 stars so new players can still get her
         ( the entirety of Natlan arc is a attempt at acquiring new players from a younger audience, see fortinite esque design with chasca and mauvika vehicles )

         DPS at 4 stars are usually discarded, Varesa would be dead on arrival since she is just a new Gaming pretty girl version.
         without the stat boosts that 5 stars get, Varesa would have no point to exist.

         with this Hoyoverse checks many boxes.

         more 4 stars relevant in the story, every unit being a 5 star would make them appear as greedy.
         more accessible for new players just starting out.
         Varesa gets a niche to exist as a plunge 5 star dps instead of being immediately irrelevant.

         there is also the fact that Varesa got a entire new model which needs budget, ergo the need for 5 star sale,
         which is promising for future Strong man units like Capitano and Vargas that would need a new tall male model that is not skinny.

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         • Bruh Capitano has an established tall male model and he’s skinny but a bit big like Alhaitham and Wriothesley level. That’s not strong man.

           Also how the hell is Varesa a big strong girl/woman?? She looks like some overt cutesy fanservice lil princess just thicc. If that’s strong for you idk what to say. She’s definitely not tall.

           If only they had a black woman with abs and like strong tall body. But no they made her stupid looking pink haired white princess for the gizzilion time. Ugh

     • Just say it out loud bruh: Hoyo hates black characters.

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       • Holy reach

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   • It reminds me when the Hero of the cryo tribe is an electro 4* and not the cryo 5* of the tribe herself. Weird decision. =x

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     • To be fair Ororon was freshly picked by the system. Before he was just a regular goofy dude who likes farming.

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   • 4* means everyone will have her, it’s intended.
     5* are “cool” but 4* characters are familiar, comfy.
     Bennett, Fischl, Sucrose, XQ, Xiangling, Kuki, all those characters were probably in the abyss longer than most of your 5*.
     (except XQ and Sucrose who got powercrept by 5*)
     5* characters are temporary trends, they are designed to rotate (except Kazu and Xilo).
     But 4* characters are designed to stay, to be a staple of the meta.
     Either that or they’re completely useless…

     They can still make money baiting C2 for most players, and C6 for whales.
     Constellations on 4* can be even more expensive than C6 on 5*.
     The scary part is that it has no guarantee at all for 4*.
     And for the average whale will obviously want her C6 asap.
     They did the same with Chevreuse.

     I’m actually glad she is 4*, because I won’t have to sacrifice my pulls for her.

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6. Iansan’s Elemental skill & Burst Summary:

   *Elemental Skill: Iansan dashes forward, dealing Electro DMG and enabling a free Swift Stormflight stomp with her next Normal Attack. This move restores her Nightsoul points to max and activates Nightsoul’s Blessing.

   While active, Nightsoul’s Blessing gradually drains Nightsoul points, boosts her speed and jump height, and allows her to enter Thunderbolt Rush by holding sprint—temporarily increasing mobility and letting her traverse water or Phlogiston unharmed.

   *Elemental Burst: Iansan stomps down with Power, dealing AoE Electro DMG and summoning her Kinetic Energy Scale. This grants 15 Nightsoul points and activates Nightsoul’s Blessing. The blessing ends when the Scale disappears.

   The Kinetic Energy Scale follows the active character, boosting their ATK based on Iansan’s Nightsoul points and ATK. It also tracks movement, restoring Nightsoul points to Iansan each second based on distance traveled. The Scale vanishes 1s after combat ends, but while active, it sustains Nightsoul’s Blessing even if Iansan is off-field.

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7. can someone explain how does the low atk conversion formula work? is it just 0.5%*atk*NSP? Any other way doesnt make much sense

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   • 0.5% atk per NSP
     so 0.5%*NSP i.e. 0.5%*41 NSP=20.5% atk
     (at least that’s how i understand it)

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   • Basically, when she has 42+ Nightsoul Points, she will give 27% of her attack as a flat attack buff to the active character (like Benny’s buff). Whem it’s less them 42 points, it will be half of her Nightsoul points.

     Example:
     – If Iansan has 50 nightsoul points, she will give 27% of her attack as a buff
     – If she has 43 points, she will give 27%
     – If she has 41 points, she will give 20,5% attack, half of her nightsoul points
     – If she has 40, she will give 20% and reducing for each point she loses

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8. how does her low atk buff formula work?? cant understand it

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   • if Iansan has 30 nightsoul points it will be 30 multiplied by 0.5 which is 15, so she’ll buff by 15% of her ATK

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9. so we get basically electro benny on meth

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   • She’s black so her kit will be gutted like hell

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     • What does color have to do anything with that? Do you westerners only complain and find things to start arguments online?

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       • No no, he’s just a kid with a persecution syndrome.

         Those people are very noisy but only a minority. They even describe themselves as “minority” and yeah, all they do is complaining and biting the hand that feed them.

         Please don’t be mistaken into thinking all westerners are like with these deranged individuals.

         They just bark louder than everyone, that’s it.

         I don’t know much about your culture, but Genshin and Black Myth Wukong convinced me that your people can make great video games !

         Please, keep producing high quality content, “Westerners” like me will gladly spend our money to buy it !

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     • Clearly you can’t read because her kit is actually great

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     • Learn to read her kit is objectively good. Find an actual hobby instead of malding about skin color in a gacha game.

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10. can she buff kinich with scroll set?

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    • yeah she’ll be able to with scroll set, but it might be harder to proc aggravate if you run kinich with a burning focused team comp

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      • yoo is this Cyyu tech support?
        big faaaan

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      • might not actually be a problem. in fact, you don’t need a pyro applying off fielder since dendro alone can fuel burning.

        so you could perhaps do Emilie E > Iansan E NA Q > Bennett E Q or Dehya E x2 > Kinich E and do his attacks.

        iansan applies electro twice. once with her initial skill hit, next with swift stormlight stomp, and then her burst.

        should be able to quicken from that.

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      • it’s easier to trigger quicken in that team than burning, Iansan makes scroll procks more consistent than if she was a pyro character

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    • Honestly, I dislike people playing Kinich outside of his norm ( Burning & Burgeon, as he should stay in this team comp according to his kit & constellation bonus ). His signature weapon aren’t even suitable for him to play in Spread, Bloom, & Hyperbloom team ( as it’s passive also Burning & Burgeon team focus ). So for me people who plays Kinich outside of Burning & Burgeon team is dumb & unorthodox.

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      • The problem of burning teams for kinich was consistent proc of scroll set:
        – Emilie isn’t from natlan and it’s better run her with dendro or burning set.
        – Pyro traveler or mavuika can’t proc it on the same enemy at the second rotation, cuz maintainig burning doesn’t count as elemental related reaction.
        – Bennett, Thoma, Dehya are like these pyro chars above and they are also not natlanese. They would run royal/totm or dendro set

        The only off field option for scroll was ororon and it is cope. And there weren’t another non-furina options to boost kinich’s elemental damage. Also Iansan is highly viable to proc nahida c2 (if player hasn’t c2 mavuika). But nahida isn’t good in this scenario tho yeah

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    • it’s 50/50 to activate scroll of iansan in kinich overburnt team. I know your ideal team: kinich-emilie-deya/mavuika/thoma-iansan.But the slot bennet shouldn’tbe retired in kini’s best team, iansan should be a hydro to maximise that arts.

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      • I guess devs really don’t want make the best scroll set holder for dendro on-field char: taser electro char, 2 geo chars, 2 pyro chars who don’t proc it consistently and cryo char. There’s rumors that Ifa is pyro catalyst also. Zero dendro natlanese to help him instead of Emilie meh. Varesa got her signature support but not him -_-

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