1,913 responses to “Фурина”

1. At this point, I’m not seeing her as a revolutionary character to play with.

   But I’d get her, max her, and put her on 9/9/9 just like all my Archons for the sake of being cute and being a part of my collection.

   But if her multipliers or summons are not s2pid once it gets released, I might even take her C2 with the Primos I have so far.

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2. Aside of quickbloom shenanigans, what other teams that do not use pyro units (personal preference etc etc) could benefit from Furina?
   The one I could think of is Eula-Raiden team, with the gal taking place of Yelan …though it sure makes the setup even more of a glass cannon.

   And on another note, given the other setups spew off transformative reactions, in a way or another, — is it a good idea, for the lack of substats on that, to slot up a EM cup/sands instead of HP% one?

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   • I plan on doing a bloom team with Alhaitham, Nahida, Yaoyao and Furina as a hybrid reation/hypercarry comp

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3. she kinda mid & annoying bruh idk what y’all smoking

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   • If she is mid, so is Yelan.

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4. Good Keep doom posting. I need more people without furina to farm mats

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5. The LEAST meta slave player in genshin.

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6. you guys are sad
   “uh i want more dmg uh i dont want to play that its weak”
   bro ganyu ? did you rly compare wriothely and ganyu
   you mean ganyu the most annoying character to play in the game ?

   you guys need to stop thinking about the “best teams” for big big dmg
   its a game and game are made to be FUN
   but ok i guess if you all want to play kasual and hu tao like everyone do it

   we dont care about you guys crying because you want more dmg its a pve game and every thing in the game is already ez

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   • >most annoying character to play in the game

     Take that back.

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7. Starting with Lyney then neuvillete lastly wriothesly, Fontaine has kept is streak of bringing new meta defining characters one after another. Thus it is only natural that archon of Fontaine will be on a whole new level, she will not only make the current broken Fontaine line ups more broken but also define new hydro meta herself. We Fontaine enjoyers keep winning embracing new fontane meta rather than clinging on to copium old outdated mediocre mid tao, kamidsatos, tartagwhatevers… FONTAINE POWERCREEP IS SO REAL.

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   • Yes, Furina is going to be our Hydro Dehya

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   • hh’s community is either 45% doom posting or 45% inhaling too much copium nowadays. it’s almost like a warzone now.

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     • they are all trolls🤣🤣

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8. So, lately I had enormous luck to get 4 Zhonglis ending with C6. How bad is he with Furina? Let’s make 4 scenarios: Furnia C0 and C2, both single player and 3 player coop.

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   • Zhongli C6 healing only on-field character, so it will work great in coop, and mediocre in single play, unless if you want to build him as a healer.

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   • YOu really should be working on 2 teams for the abyss. It is the only time team building really matters. If your Zhong li is C6 you should have him on one team and Furina on the other. This gives you a tank that can heal for one, and a strong healer/dps support on the other. Personally my main team is Zhong Li, Alhaithem, Nahida and Raiden which is a great combo. I will probably put Furina with Baizu for x2 heal/shield/support then run Kazuha for Elemental DMG support and gathering, and then make my dps dependent on the floor. This is what I would suggest for you just swapping for different units if you dont have one I listed.

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9. after watching all of her showcases vid
   im gonna be honest here, she suckass on many levels
   1) a normal Hilichurl simply walk away and it already can dodge her E attack, its affecting both her dps, application and stacking fanfare. now imagine fatuis, doggos, beasts where they teleporting, jumping, flying around. Summoner was a mistake.
   2) 75% dmg buff to whole party look impressive on paper but it not. first you need waste a slot for teamwide healer so you have 2/4 now, but you also need another support for CC, VV, buffing things and you have 3/4 now. Furina if in solo hydro, she need to build all in ER will not deal any significant dmg not to mention (1) above. so in the end this 75% dmg buff only apply to your main dps slot cus 3 others didn’t do any dmg. ex: wriothesley, furina, charlotte, kazuha
   3) “wE aLwAyS PlAyInG hEaLeRs sO nEEdiNg a HeAleR is NoT tHe iSsuE” problem is our healers we play are bennett, kuki shinobu, prototype ambers, both does not work with Furina and you need a teamwide healer, who is a dps loss. kokomi, baizhu, jean are 5* so don’t mention them, its like “create problem, sell solution”
   4) with her awful draining, even with a teamwide healer. your team will be around 50~70% max hp and a hit from bosses will instant kill them. XQ comps literally x4 tankier than her comps while her comps only better than XQ comps fews % dps. That not worth the tradeoff.
   so in the end, she pretty bad with all (1) (2) (3) (4) above. Just stick to XQ. She not work great in any of old dpses. she just a best buff support for Fontaine, which will get irrelevant when Natlan out.

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   • At least “just stick with XQ” doesn’t work in my use case so she has more pull value for my account. I’ll pull for her anyway, no matter what *kekw*

     Don’t know how about u guys, who may be using Xingqiu more often than me, tho…

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     • does anyone know if she works with raiden national? i need my xq 4 bloom

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   • 1. Fanfare doesn’t need to register a hit to stack
     2. The whole point of 75% damage buff is there so you can trade elemental goblet with anything else like EM if you want which further increase the damage that currently no other buffer can offer.
     3. Start investing on HEALER FFS, playing healer is a DPS loss is irrelevant since the game is so easy.
     4. 80k HP nilou can die if you play her mindlessly, just dodge KEKW

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     • If the game is so easy why don’t i just build more dps/sub-dps to clear content even faster? Instead of bringing a healer to press heal every 20 secs, because i LOVE dragging the fight, taking more hits and use heal.

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       • I never state carrying healer IS a DPS loss, I only said that it was irrelevant. Its never proven that carrying a healer in the proper comp is a DPS loss.

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       • well I guess you can if you want to speed up the 10 minutes you can play this game for per day even more :p.

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     • 1. Duh
       2.duh
       3.duh.
       4.duh

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   • i’d still be pulling her even if they changed her to absolutely nothing except look cute

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     • game is never going to be difficult outside of abyss so like, no one cares basically

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       • then dont comment if you dont care.
         me, a f2p casual player sharing my opinion how bad furina is.
         she not work with kuki equal to not work with hyperbloom.
         she not work with bennett equal to not work with xiangling.
         she not work with prototype amber equal to not work with almost everything.
         we casual players always use them so not being able to work with them is very bad.
         Im not suprise if furina end up being the most “most regret character i pulled” in commnunity, even higher than bad dpses like klee, cyno.

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     • Disavow the dumbest argument ever. Dehya simps also said the same thing before, Hoyo actually accepted their challenge and nerfed her to hell. They are still crying until today.

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   • Finally, someone with critical thinking on this site. 😂

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   • commenting on your points:

     1) Furina’s pets have a pretty sizeable radius- was buffed from 25 (each had individual radii) to 30 collectively. that range is pretty good. plus they blink to enemies instead of running after
     2)75% dmg bonus is big. People tend to forget that Kazuha only buffs swirlable elements. elemental types like Geo, anemo, dendro, and physical had to be reliant on elemental specific buffers. furina buffs them plus healers’ healing as well. the buff is bigger than Yelan’s, and the dmg bonus is large enough to replace an elemental goblet for something that is lacking- like Atk on Beidou, or Def on Noelle.
     3) you would still want to play with healers regardless. hoyo tends to create enemy groups to enforce a playatyle so like dendro x electro to defeat primus doritos . are you gonna play healerless or shielders against enemies that will inflict huge Bond of Life damage? we already have corrosion from it. how will you fare against Bond of Life consecrated beasts? additionally, 4.3 is coming with a supportive version of ocean hued clam, turning overheal into buffs.
     4) You’re playing with a team healer. why would the HP linger around 50-70%? also, you clearly can’t rely on Xingqiu for everything. Hoyo is being intentional with spitting out less NA-particular characters. first. Dehya, then Lyney, and lastly Neuvillette. Wriothesley just wouldn’t like using Xingqiu because that’s just ST freeze.

     overall, Furina is actually fairly strong. she is the first actually universally buffing archon. an elemental burst buff isn’t universally buffing since not all characters have damaging bursts, or could use it to a large extent. zhongli debuffs universally, not buffs universally. Lastly, been a while since we ever got AoE hydro application. Furina’s a big buff to quickbloom.

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     • No!
       2)- those 75℅ bonus is on full fanfare stack which wont able you get on first 8s(c0).
       – many skill that snapshot. It will BIG loss in dps if you wait for high fanfare stack.
       – because you alr allocate 1 slot for healer, its unlikely for you to omit other slot for shielder, limiting your dps choice.
       3) poorina healer is not your everyday healer which commonly used in popular team comp. Bennette, diona, kuki and other weak healer is unqualified.
       4) duh

       Overall she is badly designed character. We can only get her full potential in team that consist of fountain character.

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       • Skills that snapshot don’t always snap dmg% if it’s not a written stat. IIRC, my Fischl overstaying still gain her +25% last Troup buff when offield after a few second. It may be like EM and not being snapshottable.

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         • I will answer you because the other guy has a screw lose.
           I think only atk buff snapshot. Crit dmg from c6 sara, dmg bonus from yelan, swirl from kazuha, pyro dmg bonus from xiangling c6 and so on wont snapshot, since your artifact troupe increases skill dmg it wont snapshot. Maybe only the normal stats can snapshot like hp, def and atk which increases on level up, i dont know if energy recharge snapshot or hp or def, im just guesing here but yeah, any buff that includes dmg in the name probably wont snapshot

         • Fair point. But still, dont address other issue.

         • Also Furina’s skill doesn’t even snapshot anymore so the whole point was irrelevant
           Aside from that it never mattered since GT and fanfare were both dynamic and couldn’t BE snapshotted to begin with (like Raiden’s skill buff)

       • Furina’s dmg bonus can’t be snapshot. it’s like the dmg bonus of Golden Troupe,

         FYI, the only snapshottable stats are those shown on stat screen. you don’t see Yelan’s dmg bonus on active character on the stat screen, so you can’t snapshot a buff akin to Yelan’s.

         additionally, you’re not just supposed to slot her into already existing teams. you think people did the same when. Raiden came out? she only really became replacement in Rational but that’s it.

         the other healers are also really good in several branches. the atk speed on Mika finds itself useful on wriothesley, Yoimiya, Wanderer, Ayato, however 3 of them mentioned like shields over heals.

         from your take, you just want to leave HALF of the healer roster in the dust. freaking half of them have gone benched.

         plus where would you use Bennett with furina? Furina isn’t a Xingqiu so she is not gonna be the main hydro, plus it’s Bennett’s restriction at fault. if it weren’t for the preventative healing limit, he would be able to overcap pretty well. as for the others, Yaoyao is good choice. kuki is not built to heal but to react, so ofc she wouldn’t work. diona is ER dependent. it should be a positive since the healers you leave to gather dust finds purpose. Qiqi, Noelle, and Barbara become drivers.

         Add to that that the 4.3 artifact set has a set for healing to buff conversion. it would be pretty spectacular if overhealing gives interruption resistance, solving problems for a majority of characters that would like Furina. so Hu Tao, Yoimiya, and Wanderer finds peace, and Neuvillette gains a way for IR.

         just don’t underestimate the buffs. Can’t be snapshot, so it works even for snapshotters, and the buffs affect every personal damage type.

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     • 1) doesn’t change the fact her e can miss an easy target like hilichurl now imagine elites one, joeover. meanwhile xq and yelan will never miss cuz na proc. again, summoner was a mistake
       2) according to my calculation, all my dps will still do better damage with elemental goblet even with furina Q anyway, so her 75% buff is just a bonus rather than a game changer, joever
       also look like you missed my point, my point is 75% buff just for a dps while everyone at 50~70% max hp is not worth it.
       3) again, i did played healers but they’re bennett, kuki and p.ambers both of them does not work with furina. joeover
       4) no matter what healer you slot in, when using furina all your member will be around 50~70% her draining just keep draining while teamwide healer only burst once every 20s. joever
       your ”overall” are totally wrong so I will fix for you:
       furina only work best in fontaine which will irrelevant when natlan out. outside of fontaine she just a worse option than xq, yelan.

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       • 2) I agree, outside of troup users, IIRC dmg% cup stay better with Furina’s buff only. I don’t know for Furina + Kazuha + Yelan tho. (tons of dmg%)

         It’s your DPS + Furina (who deals good damage), so all dmg of your team. (outside of hyberbloom/burgeon/Nilou teams)

         4) But you heal at the start of the second rotation so when you onfield your supports or offfield DPS, they are already full life, it doesn’t matter if they are low when off field. They can’t die from corrosion or bond of life.

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   • Tankiness isn’t a problem if you’re running on-field Noelle w/ her F2P Bis R5 Whiteblind and 4-piece Husk

     If anything, I want Yelan as well for a Noelle + Furina + Yelan + flex team so I can keep my most braindead tanky team for the other side of the Abyss (Kokomi + Xingqiu + Nahida + Kuki hyperbloom team)

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   • True all of that, except it is solved by having a fontaine limited 5* dps so it’s fine 🙂

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   • 1) Nao sei, didn’t spoiled me on animations.

     2) You forgot she has her own DPS, like more than Yelan’s ? She buffs at least 2 chars in the team, your on-fielder and her. If you play teams with an on-fieder, a sub DPS and 2 supports (buffers, shielders or healer), then you already play the same kind of team. Nothing keep you away from playing 2 off field DPS and only 1 support unit if you want to maximize her buff utility.

     3) Just play your Bennett healer build, then the time you do E/Q with your support they are already full life. Furina opens to new meta, making healers more relevent and less of a DPS loss, that is pretty much gamechanging and in a good way. Imagine people liking Jean, Sayu or even Mika seeing her fav char being a good value in their teams.

     4) Most of the time, other units don’t stay long enough to be killed by a boss. Boss doesn’t attack relentlessly and you know the patern so you know when it is safe to place your units. Spoiler – Dodging and Bursts can iframe 😉

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     • furina e does more than yelan? today is not april fool mind you.
       again like i written above, furina need er to bursting every 20s so she need a lot of ER and you can’t build a decent damage build. not too mention her e can miss, if a hilichurl can dodge it what make you gonna think elite enemies cant?
       3) bennett or kuki + furina result slowly and clunky, swap out swap in and get 1 shot, joever. She need teamwide and teamwide suck.
       4) no no, what i mean is using furina will make all team members at 50-70% max hp no matter what kind of healer you using. you can’t swap anyone because all of them will get 1 shot anyway. burst not always 100% uptime while comps without furina accidently get a hit and will still somehow live cus they’re 100% max hp while furina comps get a hit and dead, have to restart.

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     • 2) A truth is than Yelan doesn’t need 190 ER min to burst off cooldown, for sure ! /s That’s why people says that her BiS is a trap. You can say “gnagnagna emblem use ER for dmg gnagnagna” but still, with her BiS, my Yelan as low total CV on her artifacts because I need this much ER in subs.
       And it’s not my assertions, it’s TCs. Furina does more damage than Yelan with the last week changes, 10-15% IIRC.

       3) No, teamwide become relevant, it’s different. And with Kuki, you still can over heal, proc Furina’s passive and get some sustain. Problem with Bennett? Ok it’s one unit. People will play it in random Rational with XQ anyway. Furina opens more comp without Bennett ? Well, it’s pretty great.

       4) I always have my Kuki low HP and she rarely dies. And I need her onfield to E. If you have skill issues, play a shielder. If you start rotation with Teamwide healing, your other units come full life to make their job, no problem. Or turn Furina Pneuma for your rotation and go back to Ousia before onfielding your carry. You will still gain stacks. You will have 20s rotation due to double E but you will stack with heals first part then HP taxes second part.
       You try to create problem where there isn’t.

       You have a really narrow mind and you stick to team comp you know by forcing Furina in instead of open your mind and search for better way to use her. If you don’t want to try new thing, stay with old units, they are still relevant. Let us enjoy our hydro archon peacefully.

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10. Is she good for freeze teams? with Chongyun?

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    • Assuming she deals AOE dmg (like Kokomi’s AOE), yes she’ll be ok. Just keep in mind that you need a healer, so you don’t die.

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      • Or just switch her to heal stance when you need heals. Since enemies are frozen you have enough time to do that. And her heals are gonna heal for about 5k a proc

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