220 responses to “Escoffier”

1. finally, an ice related buffer…. feel she will be great with farina+ shanhe (or how ever you spell her name) + an ice damage dealer.

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   • NOT EULA… … … mihoyo why ya make physical so useless? cant even destroy elemental / non elemental shields… besides maybe,, geo, with a claymore, but pretty much any claymore user can do that…

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2. Finally a character with proper pantsu fan service! Thank you Hoyo for going based again. Gonna try to get her C2 to send Hoyo a message that we need more character designs like her.

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   • Get laid loser

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     • he’s not worthy

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     • Get lost tourist

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3. Is there a reason why her combat voice overs aren’t uploaded, but her voice lines are?
   Varessa’s missing hers as well.
   I loved this site so much, because every voice line/quote is uploaded here.

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4. is it true her design looks worse than most of the 4* and kit straight up piece of lazy ass shitz?

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   • I dunno, is it? If u want to talk lazy kits, look no further than 90% of the Anemo units – most are awful copies/rip-offs of each other.

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     • you mean the fact that they all suck, some a little bit, some too much?

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   • Stopped letting Shenhe have any relevancy or dedicated reruns and then just gave another nobody 5* a better version of her kit. Unprecedented considering how that violates the Liyue Character Bias.
     I play less and less as time goes on.

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     • isn’t that a good thing? you spend more time irl than video game 😀

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       • Got that right.

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   • Splish splash, your opinion is trash. Go back to twitter.

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     • Hoyo: hippiti dippiti shoot, here kiss my boot 👢.

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   • Nope. She is stronger than older gen characters. Her sub-DPS surpasses my Furina even though I don’t want to accept it. And her buff is as good as Xilonen with her sig artifact set. Kazuha is powercreeped and useless now so we won’t talk about this canadian dude.

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     • learn to read. where was it said she looks weak. man these kids!

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   • she has a proper pantsu. that alone gave me all the reasons to get her.

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     • go away loser.

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5. What’s better C1 or her sign weapon?

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   • c1 and her sig weapon of course.

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   • TL;DR: They are around the same, C1 slightly better, and both only affect Cryo*.

     C1 improves any Cryo teammate’s damage, including her own. Cryos tend to build high CDmg due to the abundance of CR – lets assume 200%-300%, so C1 will be a 15%-20% increase for any Cryo teammate. If you have a lower CDmg, C1 gets better.

     Sig improves her own damage, healing, and any ATK-scaling teammate’s damage. Realistically the 32% ATK can only be consistently kept up via her A1, but if any teammate snapshots it would be around 15%-20% increase in damage for ATK-scaling teammates. The improved healing may or may not stack Furina’s fanfare faster; its effects will be too complicated to consider.

     Esco’s initial heal from Q is on the lower end for burst healers, so she might prefer teammates with lower HP. And, given that more than half of Hydros are HP-scaling*, Esco’s sig will not benefit them.

     *In fact only Ayato, Childe, Xingqiu, and HMC benefit significantly from ATK, and most of the time they don’t want to be in freeze teams anyways. Kokomi does benefit from ATK but HP is way better for her.

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     • the weapon can be used in non-freeze teams when you use esco as just an sub-dps and by other characters like chevreuse/iansan/mika

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       • …Yeah right forgot about that. Weapons can be used on other characters while constellations are bound to the char. So the weapon would be more cost-effective, and C1 is (on average) slightly stronger if considering for Esco alone.

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         • Another consideration: Losing the weapon banner gacha roll means you’ll _maybe_ get a Verdict and probably some more Widsith or niche Fontainian 4-star weapons, whereas losing the character banner gacha roll means you’ll definitely get a Qiqi and a chance to get more Layla/Ororon/Ifa constellations.

           The weapons could be good (HP% sword for Furina or Kirara, for example), or the Layla/Ororon cons could be more valuable. It’s very dependent on the account.

6. Didn’t her c1 use to increase hydro crit dmg also?

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   • Escoffier’s C1 has always only increased cyro crit damage. In fact none of her constellations do anything for hydro.

     So if you are pulling Escoffier to support a Hydro DPS, then you should skip getting any constellations.

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7. this shit just for Skirk? ez skip

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   • This “shit” might’ve just revived cryo teams, with or without Skirk.

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   • For cryo DPS

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   • absolute brain dead take

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8. I see hot chef with sideboob, I roll. Simple as.

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   • ez sushi! yum.

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   • god of culture.

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9. I already posted last month on my initial thoughts on Escoffier, but I wanted to go into more detail on which existing Cyro characters that I feel Escoffier helps out the most:

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   Ayaka
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   In my opinion, Ayaka is the character that is benefits the most from Escoffier. Her primary source of damage is her burst, but due to its it’s rapid cyro application of many small hits, it is ill suited for reverse-melt. So Ayaka is effectively locked into freeze and mono-cryo. Escoffier’s strong off-field cyro damage and massive cyro resistance shred is a massive boon for Ayaka teams.

   Ayaka’s burst Soumetsu does 20 hits during it’s 5 second duration (19 initial hits and then a final, stronger one). If all of the hits connect to an enemy, she gets a total scaling of 4143.87 % of at talent level 10. With Escoffier, Ayaka’s burst damage should be roughly on par with what the recent Natlan DPS units are able to achieve (not including Mavuika). Escoffier off-field damage will be a great boom during the downtime while Ayaka is doing normal or charged attacks during and after Soumetsu expires.

   The biggest downside is that Ayaka’s burst damage can be quite inconsistent. The damage potential goes down considerably if most (if not all) of the burst doesn’t hit. Freeze does a lot in alleviating this, but positioning is going to be very important. Un-freezable bosses who are mobile or smaller enemies will be the biggest issues.

   Alongside Escoffier, Shenhe and Furina should be Ayaka’s best team. However, Yelan could be used instead of Furina since Ayaka can use normal attacks after her burst ends. Mona’s use as a solo hydro has issues due to the hydro application being weak. However, the Omen debuff should last long enough to cover the entire duration of Ayaka’s burst. Mona should work better as a second hydro character with Furina if Shenhe is not available.

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   Ganyu
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   The 2nd most buffed Cyro character. Actually has access to viable reverse-melt teams, but are difficult to use since Ganyu will be almost exclusively relying on her charged shot. Escoffier will allow Ganyu to use her entire kit, and frozen enemies will make it easier for Ganyu to land her charged shots.

   Ganyu has amazing AOE from her burst, Level 2 Aimed shots, and skill. She is also more consistent in how she does damage and is more flexible in her team rotations (thanks to her having 100% uptime on her burst and no cooldown for her aimed shots). It is relatively easy to ensure that Ganyu is constantly getting her hits.

   The primary downside is that Ganyu’s raw damage is less impressive compared to other 5* cyro DPS. I also see her as being more restricted in terms of additional teammates. Furina is all but required as the hydro teammate. Yelan cannot be used because Ganyu does not normal attack and Mona’s hydro application is too weak to sustain the freeze reaction for any extended time period. Shenhe should be the best offensive option for the 4th team slot, but Layla could be used instead for some interruption resistance if Shenhe is not available.

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   Shenhe
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   Shenhe was previously outclassed by more general supports (like Xiolen or Kazuhua) for freeze teams, but she should shine with Escoffier as 3rd most buffed Cyro character.

   The main benefit is that Shenhe’s quills can be used to buff Escoffier’s damage even further, in addition to the Cyro main DPS. This should make her very valuable.

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   Wriothesley
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   Wriothesley is a more recent character who I able to perform quite competently in reverse-melt teams (or as an on-field Cyro-Driver for Mauvika forward-melt teams) so he doesn’t benefit as much from Escoffier’s inclusion.

   Despite this, Escoffier should make Wriothesley freeze teams competitive with his existing reverse-melt teams. His main benefit is that his normal attack play style affords him the most flexiblity in terms of hydro teammates. While Furina is still the best hydro option, he can also make effective use of Yelen, Xingiqu, or even a C6 Candace as a solo Hydro option, or combined with Furina as a 2nd hydro option instead of using Shenhe.

   His major downside is that outside of his burst (which is not a major focus for him) he is mostly single target focused. Scenarios with multiple enemies could be a struggle.

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   Chongyun
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   I consider Chongyun to be the 4* character whom is most heavily buffed by Escofffier. He is the closest to a that 4* Cyro characters have to a main DPS due to his elemental infusion and elemental burst.

   For a 4* character, he has decent base attack (223 at level 90) and decent multipliers on the initial hit of his elemental skill and the damage from his elemental burst.

   While he previously had his reverse melt team, he should be much more consistent with a premium freeze team (Escoffier, Furina, and Shenhe). At C6, he should almost function like a discount Ayaka, in he delivers very good front loaded damage from using his burst (4 hits at C6, 302.6% attack scaling max per hit) and then initial hit from his elemental skill (365.58% max attack scaling).

   Chongyun does have his reverse melt teams (his burst has no ICD so every hit of it can trigger melt) and his normal attacks can disrupt freeze by causing shatter. However, I still see Escoffier teams as being quite competitive, to the point that Chongyun may compensate with Noelle for 2nd best 4* main DPS (Gaming being better than both).

   In addition, Chongyun would be the best choice for Escoffier if only 4* teammates are being used. This is due to Chongyun’s Cyro infusion being very good for Kaeya and Rosaria in such teams thanks to superior normal attack speed and damage.

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   In conclusion, while discussion has focused her being a dedicated Skirk support, I feel that Escoffier is much more than that.

   She seems to be designed to make Freeze (and by extension the Cyro element) relevant in the meta again.

   I’m really looking forward to her release!

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   • but who asked

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     • me

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   • -> Sorry, who brought character Ayaka to character Escoffier?
     -> Do you know the policy of playing each character and what the actual role of character Escoffier is or do you rely on there being a critical?

     -> Again, what you’re saying is that character Ayaka deals 20 hits.
     To clarify, both characters are different from each other, and neither character is DPS.

     -> Do not rely on the theory of people seeing their play in a specific way for the character.
     Perhaps you do not know that the character Ganyu is a supporter rather than an outright attacker.
     Perhaps you should look more into its automation to clarify the reality of the character regarding some people playing it as DPS.

     – The simplest team formations that can be played with in the next update
     -> Furina – Citlali – Escoffier -DPS> Neuvillette
     -> Furina – Mona – Escoffier -DPS> Ayaka
     -> Furina – Kokomi – Escoffier -DPS> Ayaka
     -> Furina – Kokomi – Escoffier -DPS> Wriothesley
     -> Furina – Ganyu – Escoffier -DPS> Ayato
     -> Furina – Citlali – Escoffier -DPS> Yelan
     -> Furina – Escoffier – Shenhe -DPS> Ayaka
     -> Furina – Citlali – Escoffier -DPS> Sigewinne

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     • Neuvillette gets less damage from this team xilonen and kazuha are better and it’s not joke

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   • Very nice write-up, thank you. I will look forward to getting Ganyu off the bench (didn’t have much luck building a burnmelt team).

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   • I appreciate the breakdown. initially I was a little concerned how well she’d be balance wise for the game and your breakdown makes me feel better. Escoffier elevates cryo dps and freeze teams JUST about or to natlan level. I know she most likely exists for skirk (who im CERTAIN shes going to be busted, not even counting escoffier in the same team) but its nice to have freeze back on the menu. its been ALL about vapes and melts. Escoffier will probably be a Freeze MUST pick for a long time. now I hope we get an ACTUAL good physical character XD

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   • idk if this is relevant but chongyun c2 makes the team rotation faster

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   • does anyone know which team will be better overall between Ayaka+escoffier+furina+shenhe/citlali c0r1 and ayaka+shenhe+furina+xilonen c2 or ayaka+kokomi+shenhe+kazuha?

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   • so do u know which team will be better between Ayaka+escoffier+furina+shenhe/citlali cor1 and ayaka+shenhe+furina+xilonen c2 or ayaka+kokomi+shenhe+kazuha?

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     • In my opinion, Ayaka’s best teammates would consist of Escoffier, Furina, and Shenhe.

       Citlali should not be used since Ayaka doesn’t need a shielder and Citali does not shred Cyro resistance. Her signature weapon would help give Ayaka some bonus damage, but I don’t think it’s worth it. Citali should ideally be used with a pyro unit for forward melt.

       Kokomi only provides hydro application and single target healing, she will be rendered moot as offield support once Escoffier comes out. Yelan or Xingqiu (Ayaka will need to weave in normal attacks) would be superior if Furina is not available.

       Kazuha and especially C2 Xilonen give better buffs than C0 Escoffier. However, Kazhuha does little off-field damage and Xilonen effectively none. Escoffier’s really strong off-field damage will be be a noticeable increase in the team DPS. In addition, Escoffier’s signature weapon and early constellations (C1 and C2) will outclass the buffs that Kazuha and Xilonen will give at the same constellation level.

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   • I’m very glad to see freeze back in the meta—finally, I can use my benched c1 Ayaka!

     I don’t think freeze Wriothesley will outclass his reverse-melt teams, since his charged attacks will shatter the enemies. It’s hard to keep enemies consistently frozen with him, unless you forgo all his CAs and lose out on damage and healing. I do think Escoffier will still have some compatibility with him, but reverse-melt will still be better if you have the supports for that comp.

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