355 responses to “Emilie”

1. Lisa if she was French and Dendro

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2. whats wrongk
   why r u burning
   what burning
   roof burning
   wtf

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3. 激化 is “quicken” so her untranslated passive gives her +36% dmg dealt to enemies in the burning state and -90% dmg dealt to enemies in the quicken state

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4. Her A4 talent restriction: “Emilie cannot trigger this effect for 30s after triggering Catalyze or Spread.”

   I get they want to block her from being in a team with electro characters but I see an issue where as soon as 1 electro enemy is in the mix her toolkit breaks down no matter how you build her team. I would hope this gets amended to just blocking electro party members and not making her useless vs electro enemies.

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5. Alv ya salieron los leaks xd

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6. I don’t know what the intervals on E are yet, but I think it’s already safe to say that the character is meh.

   If we consider her in a team of 2 Pyro + Emilie + Anemo, then Emilie takes the slot of Xiangling, which with the anemo set buff will give if not more, then about the same amount of damage.

   If we consider Pyro + Dendro + Emilie, then alas, there is no dendro char with high scales in the game, they all preffer electro char for spred. And even if some new dendro char comes later, he will also probably preffer spred.

   If one considers a certain meta with a set for burning, it is nonsense. She can wear it herself, but needs dendro set. Main pyro DD has stronger alternatives (or can get more buffs due other characters), benet doesn’t need that set, and neither does Xiangling.

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7. so she is only for burning or burn-melt teams?
   isn’t her dendro application good for aggrative or hyperbloom teams?

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   • Her dendro application is mid, but the real factor is that when Emilie or the electro character do reactions together, Emilie’s passive stop functioning, and she deals 90% less damage.

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   • There’s burn-vape, namely Klee-Furina; and Nilou, who bans Pyro but also Electro.

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     • Fucking Klee-Furina team ??? We’re just making stuff up now huh?

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       • I already heard of it, IIRC it’s the best Klee team.

         There is Neuvillette who can be played burnvape with Nahida and Dehya

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   • Unorthodox idea: Emilie’s ultra-long E fits Cyno perfectly; it’s also a summon, so unlike Nahida, Emilie would have no trouble against multi-wave weak enemies. Her self-debuff with Catalyze can be neutralized with Golden Troupe and Furina (assuming it’s a -90% DMG bunus).

     …I see why they had to put that debuff there. She needs decent Dendro application to keep the Burning up, so limiting her Dendro app. isn’t an option; without the debuff she can easily be too good with Catalyze, that either nobody will care about Burning, or the devs would have to make her overpowered with Burning.

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8. Stats look confusing….

   ATK buff (sig weapon, cons, artifact), crit rate (sig weapon), crit dmg (asc. stat bonus) do not work with burn reaction naturally. And none of her kit allow these stats to have any special leverage either.

   And with zero EM on her natural kit, her base burn damage will be quite low.

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   • I think the EM should be the one who trigger burning hence the pyro one. She just using burn mechanic but her true damage still come from Crit natually, and if you want the burn to do more damage you better build your EM on pyro unit in the party instead of her.

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   • Pretty much Yae or Fischl but Dendro and not gonna play with electro rection. I think the main souce of damage is still her personal crit one and she just using burning as a mechanic.

     Kinda seem ahead of time and wait for Natlan burning focus Characters to come, pretty sure she’s gonna become fun to play character.

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     • No one else sees a dendro albedo in this kit? One that is actually a bit restricted to non-electro, and relies on pyro for best dmg (albedo had no such requirement). The numbers look good though, and don’t get me wrong, dendro is albedo can be super useful later on. She seems to be geared well for burgeon, a reaction I bet we’ll see more of in natlan. Burgeon scales off of pyro character’s em, so don’t need em on the dendro unit. Looking forward for more em scaling pyro in future

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   • she work like navia, her reaction is not that important but a requirement to boost the personal dmg of her skill. She is an off field dendro that will work normally if used outside of burning comp, that is why she has a lvl1 summon if her reactions are dendro based only. But if you use her on burning comp her perosnal dmg increase(her summon will become lvl2). She will mainly be a reverse melt enabler because other dendro off field will have weaker base dmg compare to her because of her kit.

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   • maybe she was designed to apply dendro while letting other characters dealing the burn dmg, especially when she’s an off-field sub-dps

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   • If she is nilou version for burning then she will be gone in 5s even with 85% pyronres without hp investment. She just dendro dps benefitting from burning reaction at this point.

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   • shes supposed to be pure dendro dps while burning enemy

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   • Think Navia, ig. Crystallize is a fancy damage boost for her, no EM needed.

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   • Outfit design is… well I’m glad she has her fans, at least! And I keep saying this and then never pulling, but yay a new PWJS user for me! And she’s green!

     As for kit… Navia, Freminet, and now Emilie are by far the most boring approach to “lets do something for this weaker reaction”. It’s a slight difference in team building (less for Navia, the usual suspects still show up there) but overall the reaction still does nothing to help anyone else. One their own, these reactions still barely have their own archetype. Burning can at least piggyback off melt, but sheesh. Can’t utilize Shatter teams against Triple Kenki, that’s for sure.

     I might pull for her depending on the 4* roster, but Unfinished Reverie turned into a unit is about as interesting and versatile as the artifact itself. Still failing to revolutionize a subpar reaction beyond small team niches. Where’s my Burning Nilou, hoyo baby???

     I don’t mean to sound like a doomposter, I swear! I’m just a fan of transformative reactions. She seems kinda strong (her ass is NOT keeping that E snapshot, hoyo isn’t that nice). I dunno, if we had a companion unit that increased Burning’s raw damage, so that all the Pyro numbers weren’t near useless. Emilie doesn’t really give Burning it’s own identity, you know? She’s just Lyney with a reaction based twist…

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     • dang it, it did the comment turns into a reply thing ;~;

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   • She’s not a burn support she’s an atk scaling sub dps who uses burning

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9. So she is a Crit Damage scaling character with a Crit Rate weapon, which buffs burning damage btw, that uses Atk as her main stat to do damage but can only access the full amount of damage if she is on a burn team, which isn’t the greatest reaction. I have read other comments saying that burning is not a real big source of damage for her, just that she uses it to access her kit. The question that I have to that is why? Burning makes it sound like she should be running the new set but if it is not a main source of damage for her kit, wouldn’t it be better to use Golden Troupe? That makes it seem like her best use is as a dendro applicator but that wouldn’t matter as much in a Burning team since you really don’t care about that damage. I like her design and kit sounds interesting but I think it’ll be a skip until we get a new 4 or 5* that is a niche buffer for the burning reaction. I’m sorry but I don’t think Nahida C2 or otherwise is enough to save this one right now.

   Side note…How many crit damage/crit rate scaling characters are we going to get this patch cycle? Did they forget that supports exist that may need EM or ER? I literally just pulled Navia, Chiori, and Chlorinde( didn’t want Arlecchino. don’t hate me) and they all have crit rate/damage scaling and weapons. Literally 2 out of the 8 5’s we have gotten so far DO NOT scale with crit rate/damage. My teams need more that damage dealers. For those who may be wondering why I chose to pull for Chloride instead of Sigewinne, I don’t need another hyrdo healer when Kokomi exists.

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   • it’s what i just asked
     i didnt read this but i guess many people are wondering the same thing, it’s very weird
     i personally dont care at all about metaslave shit complaining, i just want to understand how she’s supposed to work, because those multipliers look like a diona-dori-charlotte level, and it’s a total waste for her kit
     this is totally nonsense, or devs team is reaching new levels of insanity idk

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     • Emilie hits hard so Emilie has a really strong team in burning. Think of her as a Fischl in aggravate, except for burning. Her skill hits 28 times in its duration (14 with lvl 1, double it if lvl 2). Her burst hits 9 times, has some AoE, and basically quadratic scaling like Ganyu’s. her A1 passive hits 4 times which is already a 2000% multiplier total.

       Since burning is just weak by itself and is instead an enabling reaction to advance into melt or forward vape, Hoyo decided to make a dendro character that is an actual sub dps that is buffed by the reaction. Otherwise, she would just be a different shade of Nahida- weaker elemental app but more dps damage.

       Her dendro app is also pretty good. 7 times of dendro app from skill. Burst applies dendro 4 to 5 times per enemy. Her A1 applies dendro 4 times in a rotation.

       Emilie has no inherent issues which is much better than a sidegrade that ends up with other issues AKA clorinde. Like Emilie has a cheap burst cost, infinite uptime, wide range circle impact, redeployment, and damage to back it up. Emilie is very solid in her niche. We just need more cryo characters for melt or maybe more slow hydro applying dps., So if Diluc was hydro.

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   • ps. note also her C2, which seems a 36% atk gain
     true kit or not, nowadays a c2 like that is absurdly bad. You can’t pull another copy after c1 to get 36% atk only come on

     they will change something for sure

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   • Wrong, she doesn’t buff burning damage, neither does the new set buff the burning damage. Both of them give you increased damage if there are burning enemies nearby, there’s a difference.

     As for her artifact set, you can’t ignore deepwood memories either, no better dendro shredder than her who doesn’t scale from em

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     • you are right. her weapon and the new artifact set don’t buff Burning damage. I got that wrong. is there anyone that has the numbers to say if the 50% damage bonus on the artifact set is enough to offset Burning’s crappy damage? It does make me wonder why make her beholden to the burning reaction if she doesn’t buff the burning reaction. it’s not like we have a support for that just yet. Basically it’s a massive team dps loss to run a burning team instead of catalyze/spread or hyperbloom. it’s like they specifically want her to be a dendro applicator for burning without the payoff. that’s why I said she is probably ahead of her time. I don’t think she is a bad character at all. It’s just that I don’t think most people need this type of character in general if there’s not an incentive to use one of the worst reactions in the game. What she really needs in a EM Pyro support that can proc burning at a consistent rate and can increase the damage of the reaction. we just don’t have that yet.

       Also why would you run her as a dendro shredder when she only functions in one dendro reaction and there is Nahida who is so good at shredding already? I know you can run deepwood as a sub dps but I’m willing to bet most people only farmed that set for EM scalers. To me it seems far more logical to either put her on Golden Troupe, since most people probably have a decent Atk set for that, or suffer farming for the new set.

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       • They are probably setting her up as a burgeon support for natlan, I assume we’ll see some em scaling pyro soon.

         Nahida relies on em and atk, emilie relies only on atk. You could put nahida on gilded from now, emilie on deepwood, unless you are a hardcore minmaxer or use an em buff team and already have nahida on 1k em without gilded.

         Alternate is emilie on new set & nahida on shred. This way emilie will do better damage, but nahida will do lower damage and buffs etc. Ig we do really need numbers here to be certain, but teamwide em (& more nahida dmg) vs 35% dmg on emilie only?

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     • Don’t think I’ve seen this question asked yet but does anyone know what kind of damage her A1 does if it is not Elemental Skill damage? If the Scent generation from her E is quick enough, her A1 could be a good source of damage for her. Also some of her cons assist in Scent generation so that could mean more procs of her A1. Thoughts on how good it could be?

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10. Cool kit and all but she looks like a 4* ngl

    Kit wise probably made for Natlan, but I think Wriothesley will like her

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    • Wriothesley Fridge hurrah!

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      • tf are you saying, fridge isn’t compatible with burning, and without burning her reason to live disappears consequently

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    • Was hoping to just use her as a generic dendro sub dps, but that 90% quicken reduction killed that too fast xD

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