109 responses to “Durin”

1. I’m so happy that we’re getting a proper off field Pyro unit. My only complaint is that Durin has no flight abilities despite having working wings.

   In any case, what is the consensus for his BiS artifact set?

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   • Navia has an umbrella yet she don’t use it as a glider

     Also Noblesse is likely good option. Someone said Gilded Dreams good too if DPS.

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2. idk why but his kit tells me that Varka might have infusion, and his best team would be pyro, hydro and durin. If it isnt, then thats good, planing to pull for him after securing the 2 witches, varka and columbina and possibly sandrone depending on her kit.

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3. I’m glad that we’re finally getting a proper off-field Pyro character. That said, what artifact set are we looking at here and what’s the talent priority?

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4. Is the emblem set good for him, since his damage mostly comes from his burst? And I suppose atk timepiece is better than er because his skill already provides a lot energy? What do you guys think?

   As for weapons, I’m having r3 jade cutter (all because of 50-50 losses) and r3 wolffang from bp. Which do you guys think is better, considering both give so much cr, but jade cutter gives attack while wolffang gives damage bonus?

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   • No. he doesnt need ER. he need new artifact that fully committed on burst damage, and he doesnt need much ER to begin with (his elemental skill at lv 10 provide half of his energy anyway)

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   • I would not recommend Emblem for Durin. His skill gives him almost all of his energy back (at level 9, his skill gives 60 energy after 12 seconds, effectively making the burst only cost 10 energy after the rotation if not accounting for particle generation). So energy recharge is basically a waste, which means Emblem will have little value.

     Noblesse is Durin’s best general set because he can personally use the 20% burst dmg from the 2 piece, while he and his atk scaling teammates can use the 20% atk from the 4 piece. Black mode Durin could use either Crimson Witch or Gilded Dreams as an alternative sets.

     In terms of weapon, I would lean more towards Jade Cutter because it is easier for Durin to get +dmg% (which burst dmg is additive to) from other sources (Cinder City from a Natlan teammate, Mona’s Omen buff from her burst, Albedo’s +dmg% buffs for the Hexenzirkel faction) compared to attack.

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   • Thanks for the replies

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5. Hello, do you think he is worth getting for my c0 albedo and c5 Mona?, I wanted to get yae miko’s c3 since she is c2r1 but I might get albedo’s c1, he’s getting buffed and his c1 will become much better, I’d really appreciate your help

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   • With the Hexenzirkel faction buffs, Mona becomes an on-field Hydro driver, geared primarily towards enabling Reverse-Vaporize off-field.

     Durin is far and beyond the best character for this, so I would recommend you pull for Durin if you want to maximize Mona’s newfound value.

     In terms of Albedo, his C1 will be valuable if you are looking to make a Hexenzirkel based team. I think Yae Miko is fine at C2R1.

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   • I have C6R1 Yae and let me tell you that she is worthless in Stygian Onslaught for dire clears.
     Abyss and IT requirements are significantly lower and Yae is fine, but if I’d be you, I’d definitely go for C1 Albedo. C2 Yae has already all the range she needs and that little bit more damage doesn’t do much anymore in nowadays standards. Albedo on the other hands gets a good damage increase AND buff capabilities, something never could really do (and no, her C4 is too niche and too expensive to be considered a “team buff”).
     My statement above only go in terms in meta, but at the end, play the game the way you enjoy~

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6. Why he is listed as Anemo character when he’s clearly Pyro?

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7. lmao, so where’s that Hexenzirkel legend? from what’s here, no trace
   = it was a massive bullshit

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   • It is still true.
     Its effects are making his first passive 75%.

     Try looking things up before making a fool of yourself.

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   • One of his talents mentions “magic characters”, so it must be that.

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8. That quest weapon you get should be good with him right ?

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   • no because 70 burst cost

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9. My view’s on Durin:

   I’m glad to see that Hoyoverse is releasing a character that seems designed to help out older characters, compared to what we have been getting in Natlan and early Nod Krai, which have been focusing on newer characters.

   Durin is looking to very powerful off-field DPS. I would say that in terms of sustained raw damage off-field, he is at the same level as Furina, Emilie, and Ineffa. If you include amplifying reactions, he may be straight up the strongest in terms of damage numbers. I really like that he effectively has no energy requirements because his skill basically refunds almost his entire energy supply on every rotation.

   In terms of teams, looking at the current cast of characters, I’m seeing him in 4 main team archetypes.

   “White” or Support:

   Overloaded—————————–

   He is looking like a great choice for overloaded teams with Chevreuse. ESPECIALLY for Raiden Shogun if she is the main DPS, because she has very poor synergy with Mavuika. Durin is going to be a great upgrade for players like myself who are still rocking the electro Archon many years later.

   For Clorinde and Varesa (whom as newer characters have a higher baseline than Shogun) Durin is more of a side-grade compared to Mavuika as the off-field pyro applier. However, getting Durin to free up Mavuika for another team could be well worth it.

   If the main DPS is a Pyro unit, they will also benefit quite a bit. I would say that Klee would the most notable one since she can get her Hexenzirkel faction buff with Durin on the team and go mad with her bombs.

   Burning——————————-

   I think Kinich got his new best pryo-applicator in Durin. Maybe not a major upgrade compared Mavuika, but then again, freeing her up for another team is nice.

   Pyro DPS characters (if combined with Emilie) can also benefit. Once again, Klee is probably the most notable since really isn’t too great for Vaporize or Freeze thanks to her high pyro application (which becomes even more prominent with her Hexenzirkel buffs).

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   “Black” or Damage:

   Vaporize————————-

   Neuvillette gets yet ANOTHER strong team archetype with Durin. This time, as a Hydro applicator for Durin to Reverse-Vaporize on. I really like how Neuvillette such a high amount of flexibility in his teammate..

   I believe another equally valid option will be Hexenzirkel Mona. She seems designed to make her an on-field Hydro applicator for Durin, and out of the current cast should give Durin his highest damaging vapes.

   Kokomi, Ayato, and Childe could also be viable on-field Hydro drivers but they would be lesser options.

   Melt—————————-

   I feel that Ganyu and Wriothesley could be good choices as a on-field Cyro applicator for Durin to Forward-Melt from off-field. For 4* alternatives, Chongyun is probably the best since he can do cyro infusion and do decent damage with his burst.

   Technically Citlali would be the best option, but I do feel it would a bit of a waste to use her with Durin. It would be better use a proper main DPS instead. I think that this team archetype will improve with a new character (like Nicole?)

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   Other teams:

   While there are 4 main team archetypes, there are some others that he should be good pick on. I read somewhere that Hexenzirkel Albedo and Durin could be part of Navia’s best team (with Bennett). On the same wavelength, Durin could replace Furina for Xiao teams. There may be others I can’t think off.

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   Despite his main strong points, I do see one major negative for Durin.

   That would be his pyro application. From what I have read, his burst hits every 1.25 seconds, with a standard ICD (so applying Pyro every 2.5 seconds). This is pretty slow pyro application (equal to Dehya). This actually good for his “Black” form as it helps to ensure he can Reverse-Vape or Forward-Melt half his hits. But for his “White” form, it seems too slow for Forward Vaporize and quite poor for Reverse-Melt for a main DPS.

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   Equipment

   Durin’s signature weapon seems a bit underwhelming if he is the only Hexenzirkel member on the team. Fortunately, he can do well with a 5* as a stat stick (Jade Cutter and Mistsplitter being best IMO). His best 4* option in the BP weapon Wolf-Fang, and his best free to play option is the 3* Harbinger of Dawn.

   In terms of artifacts, none of the existing sets seem to fit him perfectly, so I hope he gets a signature set in a later patch. From what I see, the best support set for his “White” form is Noblesse Oblige (+20% burst damage and +20% party wide attack), while the best set for his “Black” form is the Gilded Dreams (for EM buffs for his Vaporize and Melt damage). Otherwise a 2 + 2 piece of attack %/Pryo Damage %/EM/Burst% if nothing else is available.

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   Summary

   I think Durin’s is going to be a great addition to Genshin Impact, particulary for longtime players who look forward to using old favorites in the endgame content again. I’m looking forward to what type of changes we will get in the Beta.

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   • Bro sneaks in Emilie and think we won’t notice

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   • Hope they can buff his ICD a bit. Although, the relevant elemental reactions for his Light form Res Shred doesn’t need a whole lot of pyro application to work properly but a little improvement would be great. Other than that, he seems to be a well designed character. Thanks for a whole hearted summarize though, don’t think it can be any more detailed than that 😁

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   • Thank you for this detailed breakdown of his value. It’s helped me decide to continue focusing my pulls for Columbina. I have C2R1 Mavuika, C6 Bennett, C6 Xiangling, C5R1 Dehya, C4 Diluc, I just don’t think any more Pyro units make sense for my account. Since Mavuika, Dehya, and Xiangling cover off-field DPS, Bennett provides buffs, and Diluc, Mavuika are on-field DPS.

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10. HE’S BEAUTIFUL

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    • The biggest reason why my C2R1 Columbina Primos are shaking LOL

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