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1. can anyone confirm if healing potency affects her A4 passive regen? just curious

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   • not sure, but it seems to be an amount of set HP. pretty sure it’s not affected by incoming healing bonus

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   • Bro’s plotting something devious

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2. My dudes, i like broken character as much as the next fellow but what the hell are you going to do with all those beeg beeg damage? The game is freaking easy on top of that it’s a single player, you can breeze though the hardest content with regular 4* characters and i’m not even talking the S tier 4*. Why being so aggressive to others and emotionally invested over some non-existent waifu?

   People aren’t reasonable and i don’t want to change anyone’s view but how hard it is to simply ignore things? Genshin community is so suffocating every time there’s a weak character. If you will pull for the character regardless of gameplay or meta then why bother defending as if it’s your whole identity? Also what type of loser gets proud seeing their favorite pixels doing better than other’s?

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   • The argument that genshin is easy is stupid as hell.If you bother to check co-op players you will see that most people dont bother with abyss at all or try the event modes at the highest difficulty.
     Also it does not matter if you are a waifu player or meta only.
     Why is it so frown upon for players to have high expectations for a new character when the complain that it is garbage.
     Imagine if apple or samsung released a new phone but with performance worse and less features than their model from like 5 years ago.
     People would not buy it and will complain for releasing a shitty product.
     They would not just take an big FAT L and say that who cares…because you can still make calls.
     It is dumb when you are ok with the character being trash.

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     • —- “The argument that genshin is easy is stupid as hell.If you bother to check co-op players you will see that most people dont bother with abyss at all or try the event modes at the highest difficulty.” —-

       Have you considered that some of those people might not do the Abyss simply because they don’t find it entertaining? Those people who don’t bother with the Abyss also don’t build their characters enough for it. Rarely do you see accounts with built characters that don’t have Abyss Floor 12 completed. Same can be said about combat events at the highest difficulty. Something will always be difficult if you don’t put in any effort to face it.

       Also, Dehya hasn’t been released yet.
       And before someone says “But we know enough” – Apparently people knew enough of how much worse Alhaitham would be than Nahida in every Dendro team. We also know how that turned out.

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       • Ok, it’s obvious there’s people that does not care about Abyss or combat events. Now then, if you/anybody don’t care about meta and that doesn’t matters in your experience, why would you give af if someone who cares about meta complains about Dehya’s kit being utterly sh*t? like, just ignore meta slaves and enjoy the world exploration, coop or whatever you like to do in genshin.

         Don’t compare Dehya with Alhaitham (or the ones like Kokomi). Alhaitham was known to be strong, he’s still a side/downgrade on Nahida on every team but spread, where they are almost the same (even at high investment c6r5, he’s more a burst support than the main dps, Nahida’s c6 takes care of most of the combats). You can still slot him in many teams despite of that.

         Now, Dehya situation is just funny. There’s no team where she’s a good/decent option and pyro is a sh*t element outside vape. Even in melt Ganyu, the only team that needs Dehya gimmicks, she’s a huge downgrade over Xiangling (as pyro applicator) or shielders (for defensive slot). You can cope and run random teams and get 36* and that’s fine but that don’t change the fact she’s garbage rn (there may be some changes on release tho).

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         • — “Ok, it’s obvious there’s people that does not care about Abyss or combat events.” —

           I demonstrated how your point isn’t a fact and now you’re pivoting to an entirely different issue. This wasn’t about people who don’t do the Abyss. Period. I don’t care if they choose to waste their time complaining about something they aren’t interested in.

           — “Don’t compare Dehya with Alhaitham (or the ones like Kokomi). Alhaitham was known to be strong, he’s still a side/downgrade on Nahida on every team but spread… ” —

           And now you’re burying your head in the sand. People trashed Alhaitham on this site like all the other units. In single target scenarios, Alhaitham + Nahida is stronger than any team with Nahida and her own supports. Why would you overlook the possibility of Nahida being a support unit in Alhaitham’s teams? And C6R5 doesn’t turn Alhaitham into a Burst support. You’re making up rubbish.

           Anyway, not sure what you hope to gain from trying to force me into joining the “Dehya is garbage no matter what” mindset. You’re not going to accept anything other than “Alhaitham isn’t as good as people think he is” and “Dehya is complete trash”. So, I’m not going to waste any more of my time on this.

         • I’m not the dude/gal of the first reply.

           Most of people that brags about not caring about meta are the ones that keeps appearing in almost every meta discussion. You first comment said “the game is easy and pve” That literally invalidates any topic related to meta.

           I said he’s more like a burst support because his Q shreds everything Nahida’s c6 couldn’t kill. Most of time there’s no need to use more than the 2x 3 mirrors coordinated attacks because there isn’t any hp pool that can endure that Quicken team dps. Something similar happens in the Hu Tao – Ayaka combo, i wouldn’t call it a Hu Tao team if Ayaka depletes 50~60% of enemies health (she does unless you cripple her build).
           The only doompost about Alhaitham was he being a side/downgrade on Nahida because he’s worse on any bloom team and his quickbloom barely keeps the pace of Nahida double hydro hyperbloom for f2p standards. If someone said he was trash, it was 100% trolling.

           Dehya as she’s now is on his way to be the worst 5* and top 5 worst units in the whole game.
           Let’s use Xinyan as an example. If you look at her kit despite not having her you’ll know she’s bad. Dumb split scaling, weak shield, meh application, bad multipliers….
           Now look at Dehya’s kit. We know everything about her, her application, her multipliers, her cooldowns, etc. Her potential dps won’t increase magically when she’ll get released (most of times real dps it’s way lower) and her defensive qualities won’t get improved, she’s in a dead spot where she’s worse than shields and healers and there’s no incentive to play her over other units (there’s always a chance Hoyo buffs her at release but that’s copium, like the one people said “she has low multiplier then she’ll get buffed because hoyo don’t want the same outrage that happened with Alhaitham”).
           When Kuki was releases everyone knew she was meh/bad (pre 3.0) without playing her. The only way to make Dehya to stand out is by sh*tt*ng on shielders and healers but Dehya still needs healers on her team.

           TLDR; I did not want to change your opinion but unless hoyo shadow-buffs her on release, she’ll worse to get than Qiqi from meta perspective and she’ll will be figthing the worse unit title with Xinyan, Amber and Dori but being a 180 wishes 5*

         • Why are you still trying so hard? I’m not even the OP.

     • If a 5 years old phone can run everything without breaking a sweat then you don’t need a new or a stronger one to perform the same task. Also no one is asking you to buy the “inferior product” that too can complete any task being thrown at it within the time limit.

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3. Build recommendations:

   Level: 70 (3 blue wishes)

   Talent priority: = > =

   Artifacts: 4 pc adventurer (2pc 1000 hp OP)

   Best team: Dual carry with Tubby. recommended for current Teapot Floor 1. If you want comfy you can slot Xinyan, who gives 100% resistence to interruption and neglects the whole damage if her shield is up, or Dori who can heal and apply an useful element.

   Power Level: Great improvement over and one of the units of all time.

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   • xinyan has 100% resistance to interruption for a total of one hit

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     • Stop doomposting about Xinyan, Waifu >>>> meta, the game is an easy PvE, nobody plays Abyss and she’ll get a dedicated support and a tailor made artifact in version 6.9?

       Smh, you guys are doing the same you did with Amber, then after release she had top usage in teapot floor 1. Bunch of hypocrites?

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       • this whole comment is a parody of honeyimpact forum lol.

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4. Ironically, c0 Mika > c6 Dehya.
   He has a lot of buffs even without his Const, a clear role in specific teams, and he fills several niches at once (hill, buffs, cryo-res, Favonius carrier), freeing up space for other subs.DD and sup.

   And if we put aside the jokes – no one thought that Mika would really be better than Dehya in NON-physical teams?
   – 25% attack speed is a lot for characters hitting with their hands (Wanderer, Itto, Noelle, Raiden etc).
   – He can completely hill you, instead of just reducing damage by 50%
   – Apparently has no problems with the energy that Dehya has (unless they nerf it in front of the banner), which needs pyro-battery.
   – Takes much less time on-field.

   Of course, this says more about Dehya than that Mika should be put in non-physical teams (although if you don’t have enough characters, why not? 4* characters that work so well on c0 are rare now – especially if they are not from Liuye)

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   • I think Raiden’s booba sword isn’t affected by normal attack speed bonus (it’s technically her elemental burst).

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     • Oddly enough, both SPD buff from C2 Jean and SPD buff from Skywars Spine work on Ei – it even allows you to use more convenient rotations and increases overall damage.
       Since Mika’s abilities do not say that it is buff only NA (as stated in C6 Yunjin), then most likely he will work with Ei like Jean / Skyward Spine.

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   • wouldn’t this argument be the same if Dehya was C0? her constellations don’t help her support capability much, they help her carry capability more. also C0 Mika can’t get 25% ATK speed buff even with a crown.

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     • A fair point. On C0 it will be 22% attack speed, not 25%.

       As for Const, it’s just funny that people say that she is not a DPS, but a support and there is no need to demand damage from her.
       But if we compare her at the peak of her capabilities (C6) with C0 4* the support coming out in this patch, it turns out that its contribution to the buffs of the team will be higher.

       HoYo have not forgotten how to make strong characters, without explicit cockblock, including not from Liuye and not Dendro – apparently, Mika will be exactly like that in her specific niche.
       But for some reason, it is Dehya that they purposefully humiliate throughout the beta.

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5. non Q/crit/HiInvest Nilou team oledi OutDmg (Dehya/Kazu/Bennet/Mona) disgusting 3premium 5* to bring her to Below Mid tier DMG

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   • Let’s be honest: “non Q/crit/HiInvest Nilou team” – surpasses most of the game’s teams in damage, unless they have hyper-investments.
     Not that it justifies Dehya kit even a little, of course.

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   • Nilou’s team DPS is insane, not a lot to compare with tbh.

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6. With a C6 Raiden reducing Deyha’s burst by 5 seconds, and C6 Deyha restoring her own energy at C4 and increasing her burst duration up to 2 seconds. Maybe they can constantly back to back burst with enough energy sustain.

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   • The Real question is.. who would C6 Both?

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7. Anyone can speculate what’s her artif and claymore she’s going to use? i got everything ready to lvl 90 and 9 9 9 her talent also a guaranteed but not her artif. My personal guesses is 4 emblem or 4 cwof with WGS or R5 inazuma craftable claymore (it has similiar skills with kitain spear), cmiiw tho

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   • depends on your team but you can just go for generalist CW set with atk/pyro/crit looking for er, hp, atk, crit and em in the substats
     If you wanna go mono pyro then lavawalker and no em in subs, but she won’t be star of the team then
     I assume that a good vape unit that will work with Dehya’s kit will come out in the future, so dont look to pull for much if you want to pull for her teammates (unless you can spend then w/e)
     for the weapon if you onfield her you can go for sacrificial greatsword for good E field uptime, skill reset and er sub with high base
     other option is Serpent Spine for full off-field Dehya as her stacks dont decline when she is off the field. You can also go for Inazuman craftable (katsuragikiri) for er management/skill damage, Blackcliff for crit statstick, Forest regalia in Dendro comps, Favonius for Battery etc.
     New event weapon is also decent for Dehya (Mailed Flowe, Mond event) and it is an em/atk buff when skill hits
     For the 5 stars her BiS is a good choice but it’s not a worhwhile pull cause of how situational it is, and how weak the effect is for other characters
     WGS is honestly decent and you can opt to go for hp sands with it for more survivability, as Dehya has a problem with surviving her own passives sometimes

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   • I’ll go with Tenacity Set. she can trigger the effect from her E and she can both utilize HP and atk% buff from it.

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   • I personally chose 2 Crimson Witch and 2 Tenacity because my pieces have really good stats. I also lucked out with ER because a piece on its own has 29%. Pieces are Atk% / Pyro Dmg / Crit Dmg. For the weapon I’m still not sure. I’ll probably use Serpent Spine because it gives me a more balanced crit ratio. WGS is going to improve the dmg a lot tho. If you struggle with energy you might want to get the Katsuragikiri Nagamasa, the craftable Inazuma claymore.

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8. Many make the excuse that she has low DPS but is a support to begin with and that she is a tank, not a support. And then there is the excuse that she is a tank but can also do damage.
   In short, it proves that everything is of a low standard.

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   • Nah, it proves your ignorance and lack of knowledge on the Dendro meta. By the time you’ve finished building 1 Hyper carry team using the old meta, I will have finished building 3 using the new meta. Have fun with your 1 team. Hyper carries are a trap. You’ll get bored playing your one team and quit Genshin and the community will be better off without your negativity. In my time, I’ve seen countless forums either revoke posting privileges or completely shut down because of people like you. We don’t need you. You are a lose/lose to yourself and everyone around you.

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     • Thanks for introducing yourself.

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       • You’ve gotten so used to trolling that you don’t even know up from down, because that’s what the culture has become. So when people with wisdom and conviction see you and call you out , you dismiss it as another attempt to “spin”. It was a common ground that could not be reached; a revelation that was sad to the first couple generations of people who designed social software. But that might as well be ancient history now because people have the literature to draw conclusions from, and today you’re easily spotted as someone who undermines themselves into eventually losing privileges. You are not as Machiavellian you’d think.

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         • Hey, come on, are you sure you’re OK, I’ll refer you to a good hospital. By the way, where did the genshin story blow off to?

         • “In short, it proves that everything is of a low standard.”

           Like you? lol

           Everyone knows the Dendro meta breathed new life into Genshin. Before Dendro, if you chart the teams’ DPS onto a graph, it would look like a high peak and a low valley representing DPS spike and down time. After the Dendro meta shift, the peaks and valleys of these new teams are less needle-like and look more stable, since Dendro doesn’t rely on Bursts nearly as much and a good portion of the teams’ damage comes from simply creating the reactions. A team like Childe International is a good representation of the old meta while Nilou Bloom is a good representation of the new meta. I’ll take the latter team any day, not that it’s better per se, but because in my experience is about 3x faster to build and does the basically same thing. But I’m saying this knowing this guy is opposed to learning (or anyone else learning), not because I want to help him. Watch for his weak comebacks.

           Off-topic, but not really, if anyone wants to understand why people are the way they are online:

           https://gwern.net/doc/technology/2005-shirky-agroupisitsownworstenemy.pdf

           This is important and goes beyond Genshin. I guarantee any one reading this will level up.

     • You put others down for bragging about your knowledge? You’re not needed in the community, take it somewhere else.

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       • Ah, informing = bragging. And now you are the victim. Nice try.

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         • What information are you offering? The usual rebuttal to this thread would be to present information on strong teaming using Dehya.
           You haven’t provided any specifics.

         • Nobody can present any strong specific facts and details about Dehya’s teams because she isn’t available in the live game yet. But the point here wasn’t just about Dehya. It was to enlighten you of your shortsighted “standard” for team-building in the game’s current state and in the future.

           Got3JeansLF Mona isn’t bragging about their knowledge. Their post shares something other players have learned and know as well. And it is this: Genshin is clearly not meant to be a game governed by a mandatory, static, and single meta. The introduction of Dendro is proof of this.

           The irony is that people have been using the pre-3.0 meta to put others down and that continues to this day. It’s become the norm on forums including this one. Anything that is new and deviates from the old Vape/Freeze meta automatically gets labelled as copium, trash, etc. And anyone who sees or searches for potential in new things gets harassed. That bullying is what we don’t need in the community.

           Genshin has been providing a lot of different possibilities for team archetypes. This isn’t 1.0 Vape/Freeze anymore. We also have the freedom to mix and match reaction types within teams to great effect (like QuickBloom). Hyper-carry teams weren’t meant to be the only way to play.

   • everyone has the right to speak, in addition, this site allows it. She is jack of nothing, like ayato.
     @Got3JeansLF Mona
     And you are making progress, dear friend, you are on the right track, this is a very good trolling. According to the rules, without too much negativity.

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     • The “right” to speak. Spoken like someone who doesn’t have a job. Someone has to pay to keep these forums up. And when they close the posting section of this site on every page, where’s your “right” then? Maybe you should stop thinking like a kid. Or maybe you are a kid. I’m fine with it shutting down either way. But don’t think I’m the one to blame or that it’s for the good of all. There is no blame, there is only accepting the fact that flaws exist within oneself. I know because Confucius said this when he was on Everest and Buddha was letting him cook.

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       • His speech works for 99% of the wronged characters, but it doesn’t work for Dehya. She is horrible.

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       • Bro you’re unhinged, you’re not making any sense, you are so emotional you can’t even string a coherent sentence anymore.
         Either that or you’re hard trolling here

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         • There are people who agree with me. You’re not one of them so this is what you’ll say. It’s not much. It’s the “I don’t agree so I’ll dismiss or deny” game. But I’ll wait for you to say something smart or informative. You probably won’t though.

     • Aren’t you the most negativity in every single character’s page?

       Tzariza’s Slave? I bet you will be trashing every character’s page until snezhnaya release? and u know what, thats my turn to trash this so-called Tzariza.

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       • Nop please, I’m waiting Tsaritsa too, she don’t deserve to be hate because of a mad man. xO But this guys with no argument other than his hate for the sweet Kokomi is kinda annoying, I agree.

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         • now it will be impossible. Since I stopped following the update. Perhaps closer to the “snezhny” patch, I’ll blurt something out here, if the site still working.
           In conclusion, I already do not care deeply about the DLCs that will come out. I’ll look for some plot twist.
           bye, friend, we had a good dispute.

   • A veritable Jack of No Trades

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9. Messing around with some maths:

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   • Assume 25k HP Dehya

     – 25000(2 ; E field multiplied by mitigation active)
     – 50000 ; * EHP inside field, this is how much damage enemies need to dish out to kill Deyha not accounting for A1
     (The shield can over-migitate by up to 75000, this has use for other characters setting up their rotations)
     – 50000(1.6 ; A1 passive multiplier) = 80000 – 5000 ; cannot exceed 200% (or 3 * 25000)
     – 75000 ; EHP within 6 seconds of using E, goes back down to 50000 after 6 seconds
     – 10000 ; HP lower-than condition triggering A4 Heal

     – 75000(.38 ; 38% heal of Max HP, EHP Multiplier from A4 within 6 seconds) + 75000 ; EHP from first 6 seconds of using E
     — * 103500 ; How much damage the enemy must do within 6 seconds to kill forward Dehya —

     – (103500 ; EHP within 6 seconds) + (50000)(.12) ; remaining EHP after 6 seconds
     — * 115,500 ; How much damage the enemy must do within 6 seconds and the remaining 4 seconds of the A4 heal to kill forward Dehya —

     If your on-field Deyha doesn’t die within 20 seconds after triggering A4, the cycle of healing repeats itself. What this has over Zhong Li’s E is that it’s a better counter to Corrosion.

     Also consider that this does not have character Defense or Resistances factored in, which means my EHP numbers are theoretical and the true EHP is higher than what I calculated.

     – Old tanky meta (still strong): C5 TF Bennett point, Beidou, Xingqiu, Fischl. High investment. This team carried my ass when my other teams struggled to survive certain fights. Characters on-field with both Beidou’s and XQ’s Bursts will have 90% damage reduction at max talent levels.

     – New tanky meta: 3xEM C6 Bennett point, Nahida, Xingqiu, Dehya OR 3xEM Dehya point, Nahida, Xingqiu, C6 Bennett (both low to medium investment), the former team being optimal because: 1. Bennett forward spamming E in his own ult is stupidly overpowered in lowering ER requirements of the whole team and 2. You can build Deyha DPS with her Burst’s effectiveness varying on whether or not it will snapshot. If it does, you can use the last few frames of Bennett’s ult to punch out of it. If it doesn’t, you’ll have to punch before Bennett’s ult. The latter team doesn’t use Dehya’s ult at all and focuses purely on her auto-attacking, but the upside is that your Dehya will be extremely hard to kill.

     ^ If you slot Zhong Li into any of these lineups you are either nerfing energy recharge or damage or both. You can, but it’s not optimal.

     I have some ideas for Reverse Melt/Dual DPS teams but I won’t know how strong those really are until I test them.

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     • A quick question. Have you done the math on potential team comps that DON’T have Bennett and XQ?

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       • The math on Dehya herself I feel is solid, because even without accounting for the healing of Bennett, Damage Reduction of Xingqiu, and Defense/Resistances of Dehya herself, it will still take 100k+ damage from of any enemy within 10s to kill her. That’s a shitload of tankiness for a character built purely DPS or EM.

         But if you’re talking about teams that isn’t Burgeon I’d like to test, it’s these:

         Dehya, Kaeya, Shenhe, Layla
         Dehya, Ayaka, Shenhe, Layla
         Dehya, Rosaria, Shenhe, Layla
         Dehya, Chongyun, Shenhe, Layla

         And every variation of the above replacing Layla with Diona, Fischl, Kuki, and certain Anemo units. There’s more teams I could theorize but those would be first.

         Another thing, not necessarily towards you but to everyone reading, if you only care about characters requiring Hyper investment like Raiden or Wanderer, or if you already have those characters/teams, or you don’t care about playing different teams, you should probably skip Dehya. This character is not for you. This is information I put forward to people that either were already interested in pulling for the character, or were unsure if she would be useful. And and if seems somewhat contrary to my post history, I honestly don’t care about character strength at all. All I care about is how the character feels when I play them. It’s the reason I don’t have Kokomi even though I know that character is fking busted. I like claymores and swords users and I don’t do math on characters I don’t like. That’s my bias, if any.

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     • – Old tanky meta => Replace Fischl by Yoimiya and it was the team that carried me in abyss back in the days x3 (other side was the (good) old Ayaka freeze with Mona, Diona and Sucrose xP)
       XQ + Beidou is a strong defense option, so can be XQ or Beidou + Dehya for archer or mage who has a bad stagger resistance, since they change from 4 to 9 sec of stagger resistance right after initial E =3

       Another question off topic, I just got WGS in standard and Skyward Pride in Weap banner, I’m attracted by WGS and the team buff it can provide but I think Pride could be a better choice because of ER. What do you think about it ? (I can’t lvl both rn, out of mora and only crystals for one 5* weap because of upgrading Yelan’s talent + Simulacra xD)

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       • I know more than anyone that Ayaka really needs Venti, Kazuha, Kokomi, Shenhe……. AND MONA (Look at my name lol) to complete the teams she needs for all the situations in where she can and can’t freeze enemies. I know you really like her, but for me, that’s my biggest regret summon, because I don’t have 4 of those 5 characters (only have Kaz). As soon as I switched off of her and went full Dendro I started to like Genshin again.

         As for your question, Pride until you have the ER subs to ult every rotation on WGS. But just the passive on WGS is such a strong team buff that using it at low levels is also fine. The new claymore or Rainslasher if you use her as Burgeon driver.

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         • I’m lucky there, Mona was my first standard 5*, I have her C2 thanks to all the 50/50 I’ve lost =3 (in fact I lost 6 (3 Mona 2 Keqing Diluc Tighnari) and won 6)
           I’m sorry you are still waiting for her é_è
           I got Kazuha at rerun (failed to get him at initial release), I have Shenhe because I love her and would have pull for her no matter what and Raiden skipped me at initial release but allowed me to get Kokomi instead. And I enjoy more my Kokomi than my Raiden (I got on rerun too) xD
           All pieces together gives me a strong Ayaka team I enjoy a lot. (I was bad at freeze management with Mona, but now, I manage pretty well when Kokomi is dancing with Nilou)

           Thank you for your reply. The event claymore will be on Diluc. I gave her WGS to Beidou, I play Beidou less with Bennett now with Dendro and I revisited her build, now she have 2K atk, 50/135 (can’t balance it better rn) and 180 ER. =D Her Serpent Spine goes to Noelle who is 79/150 now.
           So depending on the build I will search for Dehya and the ER I can get her, I think my second WGS could be a great option. =3

         • If I rename myself in ur name’s format, the name will be “Got3TighnarisLF Keqing”

           No, I’m not actually looking for Keqing

         • I think I have Keqing at C4 and Jean at C4. I don’t use either of them but at least my QiQi is still sitting at C0. I got her 2 wishes in on some banner back in 2020.

           If I rename myself in your format I’ll be “ayaka c0r0 ei c-1r-1 strugglebus”.

           Because, you know… Mistsplitter and Raiden are OP, and not having those 2 things on my account is why my account sucked prior to Dendro. But things are good now.

     • ”if you slot zhong into any of these lineups you are either nerfing energy requirement or both”….Because you purposefully designed garbage team , replace bennet for Thoma and you have your applicator and shielder condensed to 1 unit or run just don’t run a shielder at all and go because Xing +benny combo is enough to keep you alive in 99% of content , you are trying so hard to shoehorn Dehya into something that looks ground breaking when it clearly isn’t and due to her ATK multi nerf she actually does even less dmg than before with bennett because of the reduced ATK scaling.

       This is a typical cope tactic by people where they take already established characters and try tearing them down to make their bad characters look less bad and your corrosion counter idea sounds terrible , you’re going off the idea to make a comp that counters 1 specific enemy type which btw won’t work because if you took 10s to read off the wiki it says ”Corrosion ignores Shields, DEF and RES.” so Dehya’s 50% mitigations means literally nothings , it’s actually nerf compared to shielders because at least shielders block the initial attack dmg and you deal with the bleed

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       • Your typical shun tactic is used by people like you who are bothered by other players having fun with characters you don’t like. Got3JeansLF Mona already stated that their post is directed towards people who want to pull for Deya and want to try different teams with her.

         Your lack of reading comprehension and attention to detail is on full display here,

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         • What shun tactic? He’s not trying to comfort people pulling her because then he wouldn’t have to make a math table in the first place , he’s trying to convince people to pull her and make them think she’s not garbage but he failed at this because the math table he presents here is:
           1. Completely bias because he obviously loves Dehya and would go so far to say she somehow is an upgrade over zhong
           2.His idea of a corrosion countering is flawed because corrosion DMG ignores all DEF and Res abilities which h could’ve easily taken 10s to google like I did but didn’t bother and even if this wasn’t the case and she did reduce bleed DMG who gives a shit? Just bring a healer and why roll a character to counter 1 specific enemy type?

           You wanna say I have a lack of reading and attention to detail? Either you’re an alt acc or just like OP you didn’t even bother to do the most bare bones basic research to see her reduction ability won’t work on corrosion

         • You really don’t want to understand the premise here. Got3JeansLF Mona wasn’t trying to convince anyone to pull Dehya. Their post was directed specifically at people who either already plan to pull for Dehya or are already curious in seeing how she can be useful. If someone doesn’t agree with the math or doesn’t think it’s useful now or in the future, they’re free to disregard it and skip Dehya.

           Got3JeansLF Mona doesn’t seem like the type of person who would create alt accounts just to reply. Their responses have been very comprehensive and frank. I don’t need to prove my identity to you. I’m just someone who can see the value in the discussion that Got3JeansLF Mona had started. If you want to create conspiracy theories to comfort your own bias, that’s on you.

           I’ve nothing more to say. You don’t care to comprehend the point of the original discussion nor do you want to consider anything beyond your own prejudices.

         • There’s nothing to comprehend because he didn’t even bother doing basic research and then spouting a random theory that Dehya is somehow a corrosion counter with no evidence to back that up…that’s not even helpful to people who want Dehya because you’re just flat out lying to them saying shes a counter and she’s better than zhongli

           I also I highly suggest you read his other comments before even being his number 1 fan because he is 1000% a hypocrite , if you think my reading and attention to detail is bad then go read his discussion with 20+ comments of people calling him out on why his theories are either outlandish or don’t work because he didn’t do basic research , he thinks somehow thoma is a downgrade to Dehya in burgeon even tho she maybe procs 4-5 burgeon cores in 12s with her E

     • How pathetic do you have to be to write yourself laudatory odes from your own twink account?

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       • The delusional thought process here isn’t even surprising anymore.

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   • You are doing wonders as always keep it up. The trolls here who doompost know nothing

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     • Off-topic but I just wanted to say this to all the trolls here on honeyhunter this includes:

       HillyTroll Hillytroll
       Tsariza’s slave
       ChirontheRatKing
       Waiting for fontaine
       Lmao
       Xero9
       Any former mains

       The Genshin community is so predictable at this point. From the unending doomposting to the complete 180 whenever they were proven wrong and act like it never existed. What a bunch of hypocrites you all are. They even act like the spiral abyss is so difficult when it is actually too easy as long as you have good artifacts. If you want something difficult then go play DarkSouls or something. This place is no different from Reddit and Twitter. It’s the same tantrum-throwing toddlers here (excluding a few users here). This site is just like a poorly-managed daycare where the moderators enable trolling and toxic comments to no ends and delete comments that call them out on their hypocritical demeanor. That is all I wanted to say before my comment/account is deleted/banned.

       P.S.: I have no intention of pulling for Dehya but go ahead and reply that I’m trying to defending her despite the fact that what I mentioned has nothing to do with her.

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10. Off-topic but I just wanted to say the Genshin community is so predictable at this point. From the unending doomposting to the complete 180 whenever they were proven wrong and act like it never existed. What a bunch of hypocrites you all are. They even act like the spiral abyss is so difficult when it is actually too easy as long as you have good artifacts. If you want something difficult then go play DarkSouls or something. This place is no different from Reddit and Twitter. It’s the same tantrum-throwing toddlers here (excluding a few users here). This site is just like a poorly-managed daycare where the moderators enable trolling and toxic comments to no ends and delete comments that call them out on their hypocritical demeanor. That is all I wanted to say before my comment/account is deleted/banned.

    P.S.: I have no intention of pulling for Dehya but go ahead and reply that I’m trying to defending her despite the fact that what I mentioned has nothing to do with her.

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    • ur 100% a sigma nation red piller from the way you speak

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      • “ur 100% a sigma nation red piller from the way you speak”

        ^Says the person using text-talk and zero grammar to insult someone.
        Your post is the embodiment of what the OP is referring to.

        People commenting here don’t have to agree on everything. And people should be free to discuss things other than damage (voice-lines, stories, and other information is available here too afterall). However, I would like to see more involvement and interaction from the moderators on this site. Why not encourage meaningful discussion, analysis, and debate? The constant trolling, spamming, toxicity, and bullying in the comments does nothing but foster petty bickering.

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