2,805 responses to “Дэхья”

1. I’m kind of a noob asking this question, but how did this whole Dehya hate culminate in the first place? I need like a rundown/retrospective on the whole thing. And why does this character have 66 (and counting) pages?

   I’ve been on this site since the game’s release, and I didn’t really care much about the drama on here. It was when I started engaging with the site more frequently by making an account. I’ve seen the atrocites of Arlecchino’s comment section first-hand and heard word of Raiden Shogun before the comment wipe, but I’m still confused as to why Dehya got the pummeling from the white name herd mentality with the “fix the bugs” and “hoyo pls”.

   At the end of the day, it’s just a character in a video game. I don’t give a damn if a character has bugs or their multipliers are shite, I just like the character and I just move on with it. I got Dehya from the free 5* selector as a Pyro applicator for my Burning team, and I don’t see anything wrong.

   Also, I’ve seen a lot of comments on this site recently from people complaining about Hoyo to add this, buff that, fix whatever, but all in all, they’re just a company trying to make the game good for everyone. They’ve even acknowledged it in the 5.0 livestream. Do remember that each game that Hoyo makes is managed by different game directors, and they have different ways to make the game better for everyone. For example, HSR and ZZZ have a feature where you can make relics/drive discs from a single item; Genshin just got that feature as recently as 5.0. You don’t need to vent your opinions and suggestions negatively for the world to see. They will listen. Sometimes your plea doesn’t reach out to them, so if that’s the case, just live with it and move on, since you’ve done your part. No need to call them retards for a minuscule problem that has been agging your for the past 4 years.

   Anyways, end of rant, but if you white names or yellow names wanna throw shade at me because I’ve been out of the loop on this debacle or the rant in general, go ahead. I’m just curious and asking a question, that’s all.

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   • -She was an extremely popular and loved character before being released (personality and looks)
     -During the beta players tried to make the weak numbers work and tried to find teams where she can be useful but it was not looking good. Lots of theorycrafting and doomposting
     -She was released as one of if not the worst character in the game with a very underwhelming kit that was outclassed in every way by existing characters because of weak numbers

     Players didn’t necessarily want her to be a strong character. Just not irredeemably awful. It was a complete betrayal to make such a loved character so bad. It wasn’t like “slightly weaker than average”, it was “there is literally not a single team where she can do something that an existing character can’t do better. Even a weak 4* like Xinyan could do better.

     Some people hate her because she’s weak but most people are just sad about what happened.

     The reason you think she’s ok is because you’re using a burning team which didn’t exist when she was released.

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     • even on burning teams she sucks
       her uptime on the IR is way too little to be any real good
       her hits and damage are like, 1% of the whole team contribution at best
       and thoma exists and is a better pick for the slot (especially if c6) – of course this “doesnt apply” if you dont play him for whatever reason, but its important to acknowledge that shes just not the bis for any team

       she’s still a bad character despite the several cope teams people use, but hey the teams work because the game is based on teams and not sole units so the other 3 units always hard carry her ass anyways

       and I say this as someone who played her in a double carry team with raiden, sara and chevvy, which I consider her best team, but damn dehya barely does anything in there. she’s also c3r1 with cracked vorukasha pieces btw
       benny or xiangling are better in the slot in this one

       i love her, but would never say she’s good now, that’s just people lying to themselves
       there’s several bugs and core issues with her kit that will never be fixed by simply adding more characters to the game, what she needed was a rework, or just the bare minimum with bug fixes, which werent ever acknowledged so thats very telling of what hoyo will do (nothing)

       but nah, “black” (not really) character deserves to be thrown into standard and call it a day instead of actually putting effort into fixing it like zl
       and people just gobble it up because apparently standard means bad, when the only characters that are actually bad from standard are qiqi and dehya

       also you forgot to mention a lot of copers were posting misinformation that went by the ways of “no shes not actually bad its you all that dont know how to play and all the theorycrafters (all of them) who did bad numbers trust me guys it was revealed to me in a dream”
       so naturally other people refuted those claims, with, you wouldnt guess, more posts

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   • “hoyo is just a company trying to make the game good for everyone.”
     and no company is your friend, ever, period. remember that

     no, just because they say things in the livestream doesnt make it necessarily true, it can be and generally is just PR

     dont forget this and all other hoyo products are predatory games with several addiction creating patterns
     no, its not as simple as “just stop playing” or “just dont play if you know youll have issues”
     because their target isnt really people that already know theyd have issues
     no, those people already know to be careful, and generally are

     their real target is people who are unaware and they intend to develop those issues on other people
     have you ever wondered why do you have to daily login with the welkin, or else you lose out on some primos?
     or why do you have to complete daily and weekly tasks to complete your month(and a half)ly battlepass?
     or perhaps why, sometimes, when a 4* is released, or free from the jail and finally reruns, after some people spend A LOT, they dont get it to c6 or a good constellation endpoint and instead get the feeling of spending more just to go even further, even as “just a joke”?
     or even why, sometimes, some character, “deserves everything/deserves the world” and you just go all in on it with no care of anything else? this happened to several dehya fans btw

     remember, theres a video of da wei making fun of its target audience, as he calls it “lonely otaku”, when the company was starting and it was being presented to investors
     he talks about how hes gonna use that loneliness to create idolized anime characters and make earnings out of that
     the comments of that video say things like “he knows his audience so well” without realizing the abuse he is literally describing theyd go through, just so they earn money on their behalf

     da wei is not deserving of the brother nickname, liu wei is not your friend

     but alas after all this yapping this community will ignore me and keep simping for “waifu dawei” or whatever and believe his fake ass tears, because critical thinking is not something people often do in this fandom

     have fun with the game and my name, but never defend their many awful immoral manipulative practices, dehyas case is just one of them

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2. WHY FUXUAN WORK BUT DEHYA CANT?

   MIHOYO IS TRULLY SUMERUPHOBE.
   THE FACT ; BECAUSE OF SUMERU PATCH MIHOYO EAT GOOD UNTIL TODAY…

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3. The fact she still manages to die while being off-field is OFF-putting.

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4. So 5.0 is coming and no new permanent banner additions were made. They called me crazy when I said that bs rumor was just damage control on behalf of hoyoshit lmao

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   • No, Mualani won’t be standard either despite the nerfs

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5. day 136 as dehya main. man they made her perfect. jump cancel ult/ no proc xingqu/yelan ult to minimize dps loss.

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6. I accidentaly self reported, admin dont bother, im sorry.

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7. why now people keep masterbeating over dehya? lmao

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   • “Haruya3d” Dehyas model and animation proves the point. 😂🗿💀

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     • ok coomer

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       • 🐱 ~Meoaw. This cat name is “goatse,” google him for more information.

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         • coomer uses rather common term as an attempt at trolling, fails miserably, more at 10

8. “WOAH, iNdiReCt bUffs, inDiREct buFFs, MAGAWD SHE FINE NOW AKHSOIOYSNFOHY…” – fucking copioids

   I can succesfully onfield her after getting the TOP 0.1% 4piece emblem set… In Dehya-Mona-Furina-Bennet team… With Furina TOP 3% doing 80% of the team DMG, and the rest for those 3. But once in a century when the abyss 12 fits for it, moreover, with a few second struggle and few restarts, cause Dehya is clumsy as fuck. And for what fucking reason her NA1 still has no hitbox 70-90% of the time, a year and a month after of her being in a game is something… Peak genshin quality… AT LEAST FIX HER BUGS “HIV!!!” It’s so fucking infuriating that i have to loose 80k of pyro damage randomly every rotation, AND can do nothing about it.

   I love everything about this character, the main story presence, the personality, the design, colors, cool as fucking GAUNTLET. BUT her fucking combat performance, MY GOD… And slow-ass attack animations with piss multipliers… Jesust.

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   • OK, I can read your rage, but can you tell me calmly what you calculated and what’s the result?
     Dehya as a carry does not make any sense to me, in contrary, she’s more of a pyro Albedo for me so I let her go with Neuvilette, then Furina, then XianYun so that I can have the C1+ Frenchman squirting always at his most hp%.
     Probably you just love her this much, well fine, but just as you calculated, Furina’s squid somehow punches harder than this muscular lady.

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     • I have 3 set options for her, Q damage focused 2 emblem sets ATK/ER sands. And now I slapped her on the fontaine E-focused set, 71/204 CV. And play her offield. E: 40~60k ish vapes if lucky, ~20K on average without a hydro. Under the Nuvi team or Chev overload. After being frustrated with her again after a big pause.

       I never did calcs just tests and prolonged artifact-team tweaking for ~4-8 hours for one build.
       look: https://akasha.cv/profile/702408870

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     • She paid with her damage, her multipliers and stupid ATK/HP scaling for her talent. And it is conflicting to all of the signals about her before it came up. On top of it being worthless. She is “tough,” okay it could grant one talent for this reason. But look at xingqu, did he lost his great damage cause he has 20% dmg resistance on swords. No. So why should she be such an ASS damage dealer if her defensive utility isnt worth even that dmg reduction.

       When i posted the main “essay.” I just finished abyss 12 comfortably with extra time. With her as main second side carry in Emblem atk% sands set. And was like: “Woah, did they actually made her work?!!?” …..
       And then i proceeded to torture myself for a whole day replaying this team but on the first side, hoping to see how it performs against goupes of enemies. And it was the least fun i had in a while, the fucking grouping was torturous, fatooey operatives annoying behaviour, cryo making me slow while im casting ulti so i cannot avoid it, sometimes the button would miss cause they dash alot, or targeting fucks up, or her Q pushes enemies in different directions instead of one, ungrouping them, dying to geo waves on the 12-2, having negative fun on copelia, dehya dying off field, first time in my life having to switch furina to heal etc. The game turned in a fucking restart simulator untill the perfect run drops. And i fucking lost it.
       The numbers is what i see the most and rotation works almsot perfectly on my end unless anyones one E misses and its a full reset for the lack of ER.

       ER: Dehya ~5%, mona ~250% something ER+fav, Furina ~165%+Festering desire, and Benny with 160% er. Is what i passed 12 sec half comfortably with that one time. For 12 first half dehya there is no good team but E-botting for someone.

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   • Same as when she released, I have no idea what the hell kind of future content (enemies, stage gimmicks, weapons, artifacts, team members, whatever) that could make Dehya “fine.”

     Her kit just doesn’t work. It’s funny that people try to pretend that Fontaine “saved” her with indirect buffs, but it only made her even more irrelevant. The only thing that makes her at all unique, the one aspect that could get buffed somehow without making someone else even better at the same time, is her steady health loss meted out via Redmane’s Blood. Yet Furina and Marechaussee gave this to everyone and way better.

     Well, at least you can plunge with Xianyun so she can become a worse Diluc/Gaming. That’s the best Dehya has ever, and likely will ever be. Same goes for Kaveh, and any other “shit” characters like Qiqi, just Bennett+Xianyun plunge while ignoring the rest of their kit.

     She’s not a support, nor a DPS, and she’s not “both” like Noelle, or Xingqiu, or Kuki, or Charlotte… She’s the coolest, most badass NPC in the game. A shame she isn’t playable.

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     • Unfortunate. But is what we get. I still hope they fix her bugs, even with a 2-3 year delay like with any other QOL request HIV does. Slow-ass chinese moterhfuckers… Ffuking hate em corporate slugs. xD

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     • Unfortunate. But is what we get. I still hope they fix her bugs, even with a 2-3 year delay like with any other QOL request HIV does. Slow-ass chinese moterhfuckers… Ffuking hate em corporate slugs. xD

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   • peew peeu peeep peeep pooo poooh…

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   • Hoyo is known for refusing to fix any bug that would benefit the player if they did, especially if those bugs affect characters they don’t care about, which is mostly 4* and non-limited 5*. Unfortunately they decided to throw Dehya into standard, so she falls into the latter.
     For example:
     Mika had lower charged attack cost, a “bug” (really just a value on a variable, but they decided to call it a bug) which wasn’t that beneficial since atk spd doesn’t affect charged attacks, and his multipliers are already low, but still “fixed” (again, just a value, they literally just pressed backspace twice and replaced it with the proper number) within a week of his release but Keqing, who has a HIGHER charged attack cost than she should since release, has never been and will probably never be “fixed”, because that would benefit players.
     Same goes for Mona C1, Xinyan shield levels, Qiqi talisman, and even a weapon passive with The Bell not lowering the CD of the shield with refines. There’s many more, but those are what I remember the most since they’ve been a thing since 1.X

     On another note, the team I feel my Dehya performs the best (as in she is actually contributing with decent damage instead of being hard carried by Furina) is in a Raiden/Chevreusse/Sara/Dehya double carry team, the team clears slightly faster if I replace Dehya with Benny but still, there’s some unironic synergy within the team, and Sara can buff both Dehya and Raiden without much loss in uptime unlike Benny. It’s still not a very good option, and other characters will never be real buffs indirect or not, because characters just buff other characters, so the general powerlevel stays the same if not making Dehya go lower in ranking because other characters benefit more because of her simple 4 second damage window.

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     • I’ll consider that. Also sucks that they never made Rai-Dou a thing, even though RAIDEN actually fucking NA’s and thats what Beidou asks for but it “doesent counts.”
       But my experiments with Chev left me with Beidou-Fishl-Chev-Dehya. Kind of fun. Idk how it is for the 12f abyss, but 11f with hydro blobs was very-very fun.

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       • Raiden working with Yelan/Xingqiu but not Beidou feels like it was done put of spite
         Yes I know that Beidou requires NA/CA hits rather than just uses but still it’s such an obvious combo

         But them releasing Neuvilette less than 6 months after Dehya shows how the balance in this game means nothing
         In fact Wriothesley, released directly between the 2 strongest units in the game, proves that even better

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       • I like the Raiden-Sara Duo because both can buff Dehya, but Beidou-Fischl seems like a decent, cheaper duo as well, although Dehya won’t trigger their procs when she’s on the burst state.
         For floor 12 I’ve already cleared a few times with the team I’ve mentioned, both AoE and Single Target, though on AoE if enemies are very light then overload might be annoying sometimes, but it’s not that bad thanks to Dehya’s low rate of pyro application lmao

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         • I actually never got any const for Sara past c1 or c2 so she got a permanent bench treatment. Unluckily, but idiswadidis.

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