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1. I’m just sad that’s she HP scaling but her damage scales with ATK

   her skill has 15 cds it would not hurt to let it scale with HP too for some damage

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   • Unfortunately HyV won’t give us 4*s who can do both dmg and support anymore, they learned their lesson from Fischl and Xingqiu

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   • Ahem. I dont remember Diona having merging scaling of dps and her support. She is HP sclaing for her supportive side of her kit but the dps scales normally with ATK, and she even ahs cryo dmg bonus. Mika’s damage doesn’t scale with ATK either. There’s just two sides of them that you build into. A penny can’t be heads and tails at the same time unless its just spinning on its side. Yoayoa doesn’t even get damage scaling off her healing scaling either.

     And we don’t actually see any pyro characters purely scaling off of HP. Both Dehya and Hu Tao use a blend, where Hu tao is just a stat converter while Dehya is dual scaled.

     So although that would be cool, damage is secondary to her and not actually there to compliment her normal use as a heal + buffer. Chevreuse is still good even without damage. She’s not gonna be a super buffer like Bennett who still does ridiculous damage as a buffer.

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2. Unless they release a driver character for overload I see little reason to use this reaction over any other. Something in the veins of Nilou for bloom, maybe changing the reaction from pushing the enemy away to pulling them in? Now THAT would be nice.
   Maybe Clorinde will fill that role, but I am also still waiting for a party wide electro infusion and/or a counter based character…

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   • Chevy is to overload what Freminet is to shatter, or Navia to crystallise
     she doesn’t buff the reaction she just uses it to do do other things
     She’s a buffer for mono pyro or raw electro teams (like hypercarry Raiden for example)

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3. anyone knows how fast is the tick of her heal?

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   • Once per 2s I believe

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4. Her synergies?
   Start with pyro:
   Yoimiya, Lyney, Klee, Yanfei – all ranged pyro DPSes, have no trouble with knockback and can do good damage in mono pyro

   Diluc, Dehya – melee pyro DPSes, Diluc is pretty mobile and Dehya automatically chases enemies so no big issues with knockback

   Hu Tao – Anti synergy, constantly heals Hu Tao and she wouldn’t be able to vape

   Dehya, Thoma – defensive supports who double as off field pyro appliers (useful for electro main DPSes)

   Bennett – Will probably still be on a lot of Chevy teams because his buffs are still huge

   Xiangling – Xiangling gets buffed by everything to ever exist, you know the drill, she can go in Chevy teams

   Amber, Xinyan – I don’t see any notable synergy

   Now electros –
   Raiden, Keqing – Melee electro DPSes, neither should suffer much from knockback

   Beidou, Fischl, Miko – Potent off-field electro DPSes/appliers, you should have at least one of the 3 on your team if using a pyro dps

   Sara – BiS support for Raiden and Yae at C6, also capable of powerful ults herself

   Lisa – Can do some reasonable damage but not recommended at low cons

   Cyno, Shinobu – Better off used in dendro teams

   Razor, Dori – I don’t see any particular synergy

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   • I think you may be downplaying the knockback, other than Dehya the other melee carrys will suffer a lot.
     Also, Fischl and Miko elemental skills are stationary, sure you can recast/reposition but then it will take time from the on-fielder in your rotation.

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     • I haven’t tested C0 Yae’s range in a while tbf
       I’m aware of how far overload can launch small enemies but personally I don’t think it’ll be too bad since larger enemies aren’t launched
       I wouldn’t really choose many of these DPSes for crowd clearing anyway

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     • Yae Miko would have no trouble. Yae Miko’s range is underestimated. Each totem has the range of Albedo’s flower if not even more. It’s just very large range, and you dont even need to stay triangular. Her totems can be formed into a line and still create lvl 3 totems since the connection beam goes through objects such as other totems. Yae alsp scales additionally with EM so her overloaded damage would compensate for any loss of damage of not using an atk sands. She also doesn’t have any projectiles with any stretched trajectory due to it firing from above which doesn’t particularly miss besides her burst.

       I think Keqing would be fine due to her blink skill and if you’re teleporting behind enemies, you can knock back enemies towards each other. Thundering Fury will give her as many blinks as needed. Most notable on field dps for Chevreuse is Raiden due to the buffs and Raiden’s auto-chase attacks, ranged dps like Yanfei, Klee, and Yoimiya who are fine with range albeit Yoimiya may missing some arrows while Yanfei has easier lock-on with less drop-off. Dehya will also be pretty good because she will both cause overloads off field and be an interruption resistance and enables res shred from Chevreuse, but also her burst mode auto-chases enemies. The buffs will help.

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       • Keqing has knockback on her CA anyway so Keqing mains are used to it

         Slight correction, putting Yae’s turrets in a line only makes the middle one level 3, you want them in an L shape

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         • for Yae Miko, in a line, they still can get lvl 3 on all of them. you just need a special series of movements. neutral backwards E to forwards e twice gives the max. and you can tell which of the totems are level 3 when you look at the Sakura totem’s rings. its these minute details that help clear confusion. 2 rings indicate level 3, 1 ring for level 2, and none for level 1. and even in a line, all 3 session Sakura have 2 rings. you just can’t make a line going in directly one direction.
           the reasoning for this is because Yae Miko doesn’t move the same distance backwards vs forwards. who would win between Yae going forwards and one going passively backwards using only totems? the answer is Yae Miko going forwards.

           yae moving backwards to cast her skill moves 2/3 the distance of moving forward. so pretty much as long as one backstepped E is used in making the line, Yae will get 3 max stacks in casting her skill.

           I’ve mailed Yae since her release in 2.5 out of spite with all the bad mouthing towards her during her release, so I know what I mean.

       • Raiden’s “auto-chase” is actually really bad, there’s a reason why people usually infuse Kazuha’s burst with electro instead of pyro in hyper Raiden.
         The knockback problem with overload isn’t only horizontal, you will push some enemies out of vertical range too, rip Miko and Klee. Thankfully Dehya has awful pyro application so she won’t be affected that much lmfao.

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         • yae miko doesn’t have trouble with vertical knockback of enemies. her skill has a cylindrical radius and it attacks from above, so wouldn’t it make it easier for Yae to hit enemies with her skill when they are higher in the air?

           it’s like asking- wouldn’t a Celestial nail hit a nation 500ft in the air faster than it would hit a nation at sea level? thats what you are implying.

           also, doesn’t Raiden’s Skill also have no limit to vertical or horizontal range as long as damage is dealt? and Raiden’s burst is pretty wide so I don’t think it will happen often, especially since enemies capable of getting juggled that high up get decimated quickly- say treasure hoarders, hilichurls, specters, fungi, and maybe some bunch of eremites, all which have been retired by our mechanical overloads, the meka, robust, beyblade-y, and not very prone to knockback. and well, I’d rather juggle the wind/frost operatives than they cause corrosion or fire projectiles at me.

   • Her synergies will be unlocked if they take away “all team member must be pyro & electro”.
     with Pyro :
     Yoimiya,lyney,klee,yanfei – yoimiya stronger in element react team. Lyney maybe good but you forget that chev need team only pyro & electro so no V.V shred, same as klee, yanfei

     Diluc, dehya – both of them has no position right now, especially those two is melee so overload will push enemy away

     Thoma – has better team with dendro and he’s melee too

     Bennett – pyro archon but this time, even him can’t save Chev from weird skill (support depend on HP and dmg depend on ATK)

     Xiangling – better to let her go with Ben, because she’ll be suffer a lot from overload with out anemo group enemies.

     Xinyan, Amber – lol, they’re joke, right ?

     With Electro :
     All of them has a better team with Dendro, why i have to used overload while all of Dendro react are so strong ?

     => Chev can’t go with mono pyro team, so her very niche team is Overload, but overload without anemo ?? Nilou is niche too, but she’s very very strong in her own team (only bloom team). So just for everyone is Overload fan, anemo chars is better than Chev ( i hate mhy is dirty while making worst 4*).

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     • Chevreuse isn’t gated to only electro and pyro you know. only the atk buff ans res shred is locked to pyro and electro, but her res shred isn’t any different from VV. it has the downside of being shorter by 4s but the upside of triggering even when she is off field. you can replace her with Kazuha instead and get overloads there, and probably a wider area of res shred.

       also, Dehya would be a good pick for Chevreuse considering Chevreuse is low opportunity cost for dehya as a battery than Bennett, and Dehya lunges towards enemies. very noticeable when trying to stay in Bennett’s circle. dehya has off field pyro app as well and it’s slower pace means you have more breathing room to keep up with enemies since it’s not all too necessary to overload for reaction damage. the reaction is a buffing/debuffing reaction through Chevreuse- buffs energy, atk, and at C6, dmg bonus, while debuffing pyro and electro res.

       since Yoimiya is pretty ST, overload helps to resolve those problems, giving the res shred she pretty much chooses not to have and even Zhongli’s has a range to where it can res shred. yoimiya is ranged which means powerful juggling and is a boss killer. she has not many competitors for overloaded vs vape where XL and Hu Tao come on top.

       yanfei is ranged but even better considering her CA also has greater range and insta-spawn projectile above enemies so closes distances between projectile and enemy quicker, plus little drop-off and few opportunities to miss. she grants her own IR at C4.

       Even though Yae Miko may be better in aggravate, Fischl basically takes Yae’s place and Yae only really replaces Fischl in Tighnari teams, as if everyone has pulled Tighnari from standard banner or 50/50. and even Neuv prefers Fischl over Yae, and the aggravate team is usually with an electro on field dps such as Keqing.

       thus, Yae stands out better than Fischl in overloaded due to better directed and faster projectiles, wider radius, and mobility to meet up with enemies that get flung around.

       Raiden is very average in rational and you only use her hyper carry if she is C2 or/and with C6 Sara, otherwise she is with Furina, and some may choose Hu Tao with Furina than Raiden, especially when EM Raiden feels more powerful than Rational.

       do even in overloaded, Raiden would do well, and at least her burst can be used without it being copium or to funnel bad fashion impact characters’ energy.

       so overloaded is a type of hyper Raiden team. first, mono electro hyper Raiden, then hyperbloom Raiden, then taser hyper Raiden, and now overloaded hyper Raiden? just many hyper Raiden teams now.

       and overloaded just suits Klee very well. I don’t think a single enemy may touch her with all the overloaded happening. thus, she is a boss killer or has a forcefully of explosions around her.

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5. Rumors of Yoimiya rerun in 4.3… Holy heck time for Yoimillions of dollars in sales.

   With Chevy having a decent chance of running with her (or at least I pray) this might be my chance to finally get her! Chevy-Beidou-Fischl-Yoimiya here I come! Probably going to go ham on bosses and other heavy enemies, as god intended.

   Or literally just any Chevy-Yoi-VVAnemo-Flex setup because im just so glad Bennett isn’t the only Pyro Healer, I don’t even care if it’s a weird combo at this point. Downgrade my rear, that guy was murder on team diversity overall. Begging for a XL alternative before Natlan hits.

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   • I desperately want Arlecchino to be pyro Yelan
     There just aren’t enough pyro off fielders (also her blood daggers in concept art look awesome and I want them to be like rain swords)

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   • Not sure, info until know (no confirmed ofc) say chevreuse is more likely to be in the 2nd half with raiden/ayaka

     Ofc this can change until hyv confirms it

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6. Raiden, (Sara/Fischl), Xiangling, Chevrolet;
   (Yoi/Yanfei), Beidou, Fischl, Chevrolet.

   Finally a decent 4-star. And better yet, Xiangling is finally free from that cringe shota.

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   • Yae would be better than Raiden in most instances due to 100% uptime on electro application (due to being a catalyst) while also providing greater and faster off-field electro that scales higher, especially when considering that overload knocks back enemies so with raiden you’d have to chase them down. It’s looking more like a fischl/yae, thoma/xiangling, chevreuse, yoimiya/klee/yanfei

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     • Knockback doesn’t matter much with Raiden
       Any enemy that would get knocked back is already dead after the first hit

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7. I’m really love how they parted her hair to avoid the polearm colliding in her animations.

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   • they do that with almost all long hair characters tho, and it does have some collisions still.

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8. New Raiden hypercarry idea
   Raiden (C2+ preferably), Chevy, Bennett, Sara (preferably C6)
   You could replace Bennett/Sara with Thoma/Dehya for application and defense
   I see the problem of application (and Chevy’s res shred wearing off), so it may be better to swap swap off a unit like I mentioned above so the res shred lasts for Raiden’s whole burst

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   • well, i have to said that, with sucrose/kazuha, Raiden hypercarry still prefer them more than Chev. 40% res shred ? Anemo VV set can do it, buff a lot of dmg ? kazuha/sucrose can do it (of course kazuha better). I don’t know why they forced Chev go with pyro & electro only, just take away “all team member must be pyro and electro” and she’ll be fine, totally fine.

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     • it’s so you can’t just stack resistance stress together. You won’t normally stack Zhongli with anemo characters. they don’t react with each other.

       and Chevreuse is basically a VV artifact set built in. it’s a fair that it’s locked to the elements, especially as no other charactrr or combination can res shred 40% + another 40%. and you wonder why VV can’t swirl physical as to res shred physical on top of suoerconduct.

       and Chevreuse has the edge of not needing to be on field to res shred. it’s all linked to overloaded instead of swirl. and the only other thing tied to pyro and electro is her 40% max attack buff

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9. Which artifact set is recommended for her for now?

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   • Noblesse, clam/new healing, HP 2pc x2
     The usual support/healer sets

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10. Chevreuse looks tailor made for Lyney. I could see myself using the following team and Rotation:
    Bennet->Fischl->Chev->Lyney.

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    • tailor made for Lyney? not a chance. Overload removes pyro aura, say bye to your a4 and therefore all of your damage with the lack of off-field pyro application lmfao.

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