Table of Content |
Stats |
Skills |
Skill Ascension |
Related Items |
Gallery |
Sounds |
Quotes |
Stories |
Stats
Lv | HP | Atk | Def | CritRate% | CritDMG% | Bonus CritDMG% | Materials | Total Materials |
1 | 763 | 26.07 | 49.06 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | ||
20 | 1978 | 67.62 | 127.26 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | 1 3 3 20000 | 1 3 3 20000 |
20+ | 2632 | 89.97 | 169.33 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | ||
40 | 3939 | 134.62 | 253.37 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | 3 2 10 15 40000 | 1 13 18 60000 3 2 |
40+ | 4403 | 150.5 | 283.26 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 9.6% | ||
50 | 5066 | 173.16 | 325.89 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 9.6% | 6 4 20 12 60000 | 1 33 18 120K 9 6 12 |
50+ | 5686 | 194.33 | 365.74 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | ||
60 | 6355 | 217.22 | 408.82 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | 3 8 30 18 80000 | 1 63 18 200K 9 14 30 3 |
60+ | 6820 | 233.1 | 438.71 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | ||
70 | 7495 | 256.19 | 482.18 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | 6 12 45 12 100K | 1 108 18 300K 9 26 30 9 12 |
70+ | 7960 | 272.07 | 512.07 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 28.8% | ||
80 | 8643 | 295.43 | 556.02 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 28.8% | 6 20 60 24 120K | 1 168 18 420K 9 46 30 9 36 6 |
80+ | 9108 | 311.31 | 585.91 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 38.4% | ||
90 | 9797 | 334.85 | 630.21 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 38.4% |
Skills
Active Skils
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进行至多六段的连续弓箭射击。 进行伤害更高、更为精准的 瞄准时,冰寒之气会在箭矢上持续积聚,并随攻击发射出去。根据蓄力时间长短,能造成不同的效果: ·一段蓄力:射出附有寒气的箭矢,造成 ·二段蓄力:发射霜华矢,造成 从空中射出箭雨,并迅速下坠冲击地面,在落地时造成范围伤害。 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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山泽麟迹 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
甘雨留下一朵冰莲并迅速后退,远离一切魑魅魍魉,造成 ·持续嘲讽周围的敌人,吸引敌人攻击; ·耐久度按比例继承甘雨的生命值上限; ·被摧毁或持续时间结束时,会剧烈地绽放,造成 「你说你看到我了?那应该是错觉吧。那个时间我应该在加班才对。」 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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降众天华 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
凝聚大气中的霜雪,召唤退魔的冰灵珠。 存在期间内,冰灵珠会持续降下冰棱,攻击范围内的敌人,造成 甘雨当然可以降下清甜之雨。但是对于邪魔外道,这些都会变成寒苦之雪。 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Passive Skills
藏弓待用 | |
锻造弓类武器时,返还15%消耗的矿石。 |
唯此一心 | |
霜华矢发射后的5秒内,会使接下来的发射的霜华矢与这些霜华矢引发的霜华绽发的暴击率提高20%。 |
天地交泰 | |
Constellations
饮露 | |
二段蓄力重击的霜华矢或霜华绽发命中敌人时,会使敌人的 此外,命中时会为甘雨恢复2点元素能量。每次二段蓄力重击只能触发一次元素能量恢复效果,无论霜华矢或霜华绽发是否都命中目标。 |
获麟 | |
云行 | |
至多提升至15级。 |
西狩 | |
在 受伤害加成初始为5%,每3秒提升5%,至多提升至25%。 离开领域后,效果至多持续3秒。 |
折草 | |
至多提升至15级。 |
履虫 | |
施放 |
Skill Ascension
Gallery
360 Spin
Idle #1
Idle #2
Attack
Elemental Skill
Elemental Burst
Sounds
Title | EN | CN | JP | KR |
Party Switch | ||||
Party Switch when teammate is under 30% HP | ||||
Party Switch under 30% HP | ||||
Opening Chest | ||||
Normal Attack | ||||
Medium Attack | ||||
Heavy Attack | ||||
Taking Damage (Low) | ||||
Taking Damage (High) | ||||
Battle Skill #1 | ||||
Battle Skill #3 | ||||
loc_combat_sound_1000500 | ||||
Sprinting Starts | ||||
Sprinting Ends | ||||
Jumping | ||||
Climbing | ||||
Heavy Breathing (Climbing) | ||||
Open World Gliding (Start) | ||||
Open World Idle | ||||
Fainting | ||||
Idle Performance |
Quotes
Audio Language:
Title | VoiceOver |
初次见面… | |
闲聊·松弛 | |
闲聊·聆听 | |
闲聊·焦虑 | |
下雨的时候·担忧 | |
下雨的时候·听雨 | |
雨过天晴… | |
阳光很好… | |
起风的时候… | |
早上好… | |
中午好… | |
晚上好… | |
晚安… | |
关于甘雨自己… | |
关于我们·工作 | |
关于我们·请求 | * 好感等级达到6后开启 |
关于我们·评价 | * 好感等级达到6后开启 |
关于「神之眼」… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
有什么想要分享… | |
感兴趣的见闻·名字 | |
感兴趣的见闻·清心 | |
关于摩拉克斯·信任 | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于摩拉克斯·追随 | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于凝光… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于刻晴·隔阂 | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于刻晴·改观 | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于行秋… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于香菱… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于北斗… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于瑶瑶… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于魈… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于烟绯… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于申鹤… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于夜兰… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
关于闲云… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
想要了解甘雨·其一 | |
想要了解甘雨·其二 | * 好感等级达到3后开启 |
想要了解甘雨·其三 | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
想要了解甘雨·其四 | * 好感等级达到5后开启 |
想要了解甘雨·其五 | * 好感等级达到6后开启 |
甘雨的爱好… | |
甘雨的烦恼… | |
喜欢的食物… | |
讨厌的食物… | |
收到赠礼·其一 | |
收到赠礼·其二 | |
收到赠礼·其三 | |
生日… | |
突破的感受·起 | * 突破等级「1」阶后开启 |
突破的感受·承 | * 突破等级「2」阶后开启 |
突破的感受·转 | * 突破等级「4」阶后开启 |
突破的感受·合 | * 突破等级「6」阶后开启 |
元素战技·其一 | |
元素战技·其二 | |
元素战技·其三 | |
元素爆发·其一 | |
元素爆发·其二 | |
元素爆发·其三 | |
元素爆发·其四 | |
冲刺开始·其一 | |
冲刺开始·其二 | |
冲刺结束·其一 | |
打开宝箱·其一 | |
打开宝箱·其二 | |
打开宝箱·其三 | |
生命值低·其一 | |
生命值低·其二 | |
生命值低·其三 | |
同伴生命值低·其一 | |
同伴生命值低·其二 | |
倒下·其一 | |
倒下·其二 | |
倒下·其三 | |
普通受击·其一 | |
重受击·其一 | |
加入队伍·其一 | |
加入队伍·其二 | |
加入队伍·其三 |
Stories
Title | Text |
角色详细 | 在璃月,百姓们大多对「玉京台」的生活心驰神往,对其中的运转规则却知之甚少。 人们知道「璃月七星」是人中翘楚,掌握着城市的命脉。但他们很难了解,每个决议背后的数据支撑,是如何建立起来的。 人们知道每一年新颁布的条例都会给市场带来全新的变数,却不知道它们是怎样从繁杂的会议纪要中被摘录出来,逐渐整编成为晓畅的文字的。 甘雨,「月海亭」的秘书,承担了诸多世人看不见的工作。 纵然世人得知甘雨的地位,恐怕他们也很难将「月海亭」的秘书与破晓时分站在码头上、安静享用早点的少女联系起来。 但在旭日东升之前,她一定会重新回到高踞玉京台之上的月海亭,继续完成她的「契约」。 ——那是远在三千年前,她与「岩王帝君」签订的契约。 |
角色故事1 | 甘雨并非七星中「某一颗星」的秘书,而是辅助「璃月七星」这个整体的秘书。 在文静温柔的表象下,甘雨具备着磐石一般的毅力。 关于这点,统领仙人的岩王帝君早已察明。 千百年前,当「璃月七星」之位最初显现于璃月时,甘雨就成为了初代七星的秘书。 此后多年里,璃月七星不断更迭,唯有甘雨始终陪伴左右。 这也意味着,璃月各司各部、方方面面的文书事务,在这些年间层层汇聚积压,最终落到了甘雨肩上。 但即使面对七倍、百倍、千倍的工作量,她的责任感依旧数年如一日,从未衰减。 曾有人探究过甘雨动力的来源,得到的回答却稍稍对不上提问。 「我所做的,距离帝君的功绩…还差得远呢。」 * 好感等级达到2后开启 |
角色故事2 | 「我的工作,是为璃月的多数生命,谋求最大的福祉。」 在绝大多数情况下,甘雨都是一名值得托付信任的秘书。 很难想象在面对这样庞大工作量的情况下,还有谁能比她做得更出色。更不用提她对璃月所有的事物,都能作出独到而敏锐的见解。 但甘雨的可靠性,只能维持在「绝大多数情况」之下。 越是在关键的节点上,越是努力想要做到分毫不错,甘雨就越是紧张,往往会在巨大的心理压力之下忙中出错。 例如「七星请仙典仪」,可谓璃月一年中最重要的仪式。 甘雨却在某年的「七星请仙典仪」上迟到了三分钟,在众目睽睽之下,勉强挤入了人群。 事后,甘雨红着脸支支吾吾,说不出所以然来,只是在心里对「岩王帝君」道歉了一千遍。 朝夕相处的同僚们,都猜想这次的疏忽应该是事出有因。 关系淡漠些的,见帝君毫不在意,也就不再多舌。 私交好一些的,则在私底下关心着她的状况,询问是否需要调整工作量,或者安排短期休假,甘雨却摇着头拒绝。 「今年出席典仪时的衣饰穿戴,和去年相比应该怎样调整?为此举棋不定了两小时…」 ——这种理由,甘雨是绝对说不出口的! * 好感等级达到3后开启 |
角色故事3 | 千年有多长? 长到开满荻花洲的琉璃百合,在洪水后绝迹;长到归离原人声鼎沸的集镇,在战后化为断壁残垣。 千年有多短? 对甘雨来说,正如白驹过隙间。 在这凡人难以想象的漫长时光里,甘雨一直端坐玉京台,处理各种事务。 亲手记录每一座楼阁的落成,亲眼见证每一个产业的繁荣。 甘雨对于时间流逝的客观感受,来自于白纸上不断庞大的数字,来自于总是需要更多颜色才能区分内容的表格。 时间几乎没能改变甘雨的心智,她的内心始终在「人」和「仙兽」之间摇摆。 一方面,身为麒麟的她,难以理解人类世界的诸多纷争。 而另一方面,人类的血脉却总是提醒她,要对融入社会抱有希望。 * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
角色故事4 | 一旦脱离了工作的范畴,甘雨就很容易显露出本性上的与众不同之处。 她有睡午觉的习惯,同时仿佛内置了极其精准的生物钟。一旦到了午休时间,便不分地点不分场合,只要将身子蜷作一团就能立刻睡着,即使吵闹到有一群丘丘人围在她身边跳舞,也不会醒来。 这种习性,最初也只是「璃月七星」内部流传的笑谈。 然而,有次陪同某一代的「天璇星」,在午间外出就餐后,酒足饭饱的甘雨直接缩进了路边的干草堆里,被一路运去了荻花洲,直到卸货时脑袋砸到了地面,才醒了过来。 在这往返的三小时内,四处找不见甘雨、又深知甘雨不会不告而别的那位「天璇星」,险些填报了人口失踪信息。 在那之后,面对「今后只能在安全之地午睡」的告诫,甘雨有些委屈地回应: 「璃月全境…不都是安全的地方吗。」 究其原因,或许是身为仙兽的混血后裔,甘雨对于世间事物的认知,与多数的人类原本就有所不同。 * 好感等级达到5后开启 |
角色故事5 | 甘雨有着仙兽「麒麟」血脉这件事情,在璃月港鲜为人知。 每当路经绯云坡,有不明真相的路人问起她长发间显眼的突起时,她总谎称那是家传的头饰。 「如果让大家知道真相的话,就会和大家更疏远了…」 虽然实际上也不曾跟市民们亲近过,但在甘雨心里,疏远总不是好事。 当然,更重要的原因是,一旦老实告诉了大家「这是麒麟的角」,就无法保证不会有人怀着好奇的心情,伸手来摸。 ——而角这种器官也是有感觉的,无论心理上还是生理上。 同样被甘雨着重隐藏起来的秘密,还有「需要保持体型」一事。 尽管麒麟一族是严格的素食主义者,但璃月料理作为天下美食之集大成作,即使是素菜,也会令食客难以控制食欲。 因此,习惯了城市生活的甘雨,会非常在意自己的体型与体重。 不自觉地便会被美味吸引,又要严格控制好自己的进食——对甘雨来说,困难程度不亚于在龙脊雪山上找到一朵烈焰花。 但甘雨绝不会在半山腰放弃。 她曾在数千年前的魔神战争中,因为体胖如球而卡住了巨兽的食道,最终轻松降伏了对手。 这样令人啼笑皆非的过往,甘雨是无论如何也不想它再次重现的。 * 好感等级达到6后开启 |
玉京台植物志 | 记载着玉京台常见植物形态特征及习性的手写册,秀美的字体正是出自甘雨本人的手笔。 手册分类清晰,内容简练而翔实,甚至涵盖了市面上少见的难点归纳,诸如琉璃百合的养护要点、霓裳花的嫁接方法等等。 其可读性和科普性,作为正式的刊物出版都毫不为过。 ——以上,是从前往后翻阅时的阅读体验。 而如果从后往前翻阅,就不免令人瞠目结舌。 手册的最后几页,是触目惊心的大量黑色涂改痕迹。 如果有足够耐心细加辨认的话,或许能够勉强发现,这里原先记录着各类蔬菜的培养方法。 「如果自己学会种菜的话,肯定会更加难以控制食欲。」 甘雨攥着拳头强忍着欲望,才将好不容易总结出来的成果删去。 但过了一段时间,因为能量摄入不足而饿着肚子去浇花的甘雨,就已把整个脑袋凑入霓裳花堆里,幻想着那是甜甜花,来安慰自己了。 在不知不觉地袭来的午觉中,她梦见了满山的甜甜花。 * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
神之眼 | 麒麟是仙兽中的仁兽,饮必甘露,食必嘉禾。 不履生虫,不折生草,不群居,不旅行,不入阱陷,幽闲则循循如也,动则有容仪,是温柔而优雅的一族。 而当海中巨兽为非作恶、足下的土地遭遇危机时,和平便不再成为生活的选项。 三千年前,甘雨回应岩之神摩拉克斯的召唤,成为他在魔神战争中的助力。 战争结束后,她选择留在璃月帮助人们建设更完美的城邦。 初代璃月七星需要辅佐,甘雨毅然接过这一差事,出任他们的秘书。 她作出这一决定的瞬间,「神之眼」在腰间显现,令她拥有了超越肉身、与世界共鸣的力量。 这一刻,甘雨内心充满了平和的安定感。 哪怕变得更为强大,也无需驱动「神之眼」之力,而是将「神之眼」作为保护璃月的终极手段。 作为仙兽与人类的混血,她选择成为两个种族的桥梁。「神之眼」,便是她的新责任与新见证。 * 好感等级达到6后开启 |
102 responses to “甘雨”
…But ganyu is still good
just not great
Plenty great, what are you smoking?
got the most toxic fanbase
to be fair raiden’s fanbase is worse
both the braindeds from twitter and the meta players
Agree. If you fail to say her real name “Ei”, you’ll be crucified and burnt at a stake by her fanbase.
Not even close, hater
Ganyu is still the apex absolute bestest dps in the game it is just a fact. It is also a fact nothing will change it because mihoyo has realized they cant just bring out anymore dps like ganyu which will ridicule the game. aint gonna argue with noobs simps on copium.
“Ganyu Mains Since The Beginning”
Fun fact about Ganyu: she’s currently taking care of Yaoyao, a child from Liyue harbor. However, Yaoyao seems to be more of an assistant to Ganyu, and has left some notes at Wangshu Inn, discussing Ganyu’s needs.
Yaoyao writes things like “Can the owner please refrain from putting chilis in Ganyu’s food? She often stays up late and has a sensitive stomach, which chilis do absolutely no favors for.”
The owner later teases Yaoyao, saying that GANYU is the one that needs to be taken care of, not Yaoyao. So maybe we’ll get Ganyu In a quest involving Yaoyao?! I wonder if Ganyu and Yaoyao have a mother-daughter relationship
Ganyu is still very pretty and very strong. I don’t know what more y’all need from her.
Plus, I’d say she’s a relatively old unit, so the fact she’s still up there is impressive, you can’t lie.
I’m not one of them but I feel bad for the people who got Ganyu back in 1.2, when she was ridiculed as “Cryo Amber” by trolls. Now too many newbs have rerolled for Ganyu to get the best cryo dps and the essential part of a freeze team, one of the two meta teams in Genshin (the other meta team has Raiden).
Original Ganyu owners since 1.2 should get a unique costume or an Amos bow “Special True Ganyu Main Edition” to distinguish them from fake Ganyu mains.
Ridiculous and full of petty salt. Ganyu is great in her own right. She doesn’t need “special Edition” item to shine. You don’t represent actual Ganyu Mains (new or old). True Ganyu mains also know there are more than two meta teams in Genshin. But you do you.
there are other meta teams…yeah…but still melt ganyu is way better dps wise to freeze ayaka…and evryone knows ayaka is best at her freeze team
Source: Trust me bro?
source…speedruns on youtube…but i bet you dont wanna see them cause you are biased…watch some of the recent abyss speedruns
Speedrun on YouTube. That hit so hard. You had me dying of laugh LMFAO
Ayaka main coping so hard.
@LOL WHAT?…Nah…you died when you saw the speedruns…hahahaha
Like I said, you do you. It doesn’t change the fact that Ganyu isn’t the only meta unit regardless of whether you say she’s “better” than an another character. That wasn’t the point I was trying to make.
Come on dude, I can use Venti, Bennett & Ganyu to beat the abyss, but that doesn’t mean melt Ganyu is my first choice. You can’t just use other people’s speedrun clip to support your theory(and it’s very hard to achieve) , you have to realize that most people doesn’t have C6R5.
Ganyu is the best cyro dps and one of the two meta team beside raiden’s???I swear to god I’m not joking bro. Omg please… I’m not joking bro like she’s the best bro wdym ???
Let him cope
the fastest speedruns in recent abysses are basicaly raiden hypercarry or melt ganyu…so your the one whose coping…like goddamn just go and watch the fucking speedruns yourself and stop shitting in comment section here because no one at the end gonna pull on a character over your comments
Source : i made it up?
source…aliss runs in abyss 12
Dude probably watched Aliss videos and thinking all Ganyu mains can do the same ?
Of course it’s Aliss. It is like 0.00000001% chance you can do the same even if you have C6 R5 Ganyu. Aliss is just different breed. He got skills that most of players barely has. He is fast and very good at aiming. He is very skilled on what he do not only with melt Ganyu but other teams too. I have no idea why someone is using his footage to make a conclusion melt Ganyu is just that good like his melt Ganyu is something that anyone’s can play
@Sweet Paradise…yeah with a bit more money to make my weapon r5 i can do what aliss is doing…because im good at playing…now go and cry…hahahaha
Sure dude! A whale with C6+R5 characters recording a pure showcase video on YouTube with like a 100 trials for entertainment purpose is surely the power of average melt Ganyu indeed.
Melt ganyu so strong, so powercrept baby. Yes sir
Meanwhile what therychafters actually says about melt ganyu :
https://i.postimg.cc/0yVnr7fP/IMG-20220207-184926.jpg
This one too ??
https://youtu.be/x9r0LeBUqSo
the average melt ganyu is my alt account witch is completely f2p doing 55 k in noramal and 107 in bloom melt paired with c0 diona and c5 bennet and xiangling…also my ganyu weapon is r3 hamayumi…stats…50 crit rat and 190 crit dmg with 140…in a rotaion she can do 5 charged shot witch is 5x162k equal to 810k in a 15 second duration of benny and xiangling ult time…imo this f2p is beyond cracked specialy with the fact that her 4 star weapon isnt at r5…ohhhh…and by the way i have her c6r1 on my main….if you you cant afford to c6 a character thats not my problem
Also take into account that a freeze teams wether be ganyu or ayaka is absoulutely useless against bosses…thats why people either go nuke hypercarry raiden or melt ganyu or vape hutao or vape yoimiya or the goddamn nuke eula…because these are boss killers…freeze is useless against bosses
It is very impossible to do 5CA on a single rotation without running out of buff and the fact you are using diona as your shielder make it even more suspicious. Not to mention Ganyu slow CA and many other things that just doesn’t make any sense
Sweet Paradise…Then go and try it for yourself because you don’t know about her ca obviously and the fact that i wasted my time explaining her kit to you turn out to be a waste of time…and just for your own knowledge…her ca take almost 2.2 seconds….but you must be precise to do it on time to get 5 ca on time…my diona is also c6 which gives me 200 em….that’s why i use her…and yeah…her shield is enough if you build her hp to be high
You’re right. Everyone should definitely try out your guide so they can finally knows how terrible it was
If anything, that just shows you shouldn’t listen to Ayzel about Ganyu. The only Meltyu variation that’s anywhere close to being that low is the definitively worst one, using Kazuha as the pyro applicator. The other pyro applicators, Xiangling, Nahida, and Jean hover around 45k-50k dps (although Jean gets there by running Diona as a shielder, but gets away with her shorter shield duration with a much shorter CAing phase)
In fact, considering similar past sussy takes he’s had (like Hu Tao only getting 5 CAs per rotation), it’s probably best practice to not listen to Ayzel about anything
cringe mf
It has been 2 years but ganyu mains still can’t move on from 1.2 where is ganyu being praised alot during that time ?
All big and reliable TCs such as Zajef, Tenten, and Ayzel had pointed out Ganyu is now getting balanced and mostly overrated by her stans.
why is Ganyu getting balanced?
https://youtu.be/fiToH0XSozc ( is Ganyu still good in 3.0? ) by KQM’s Zajef
why Ganyu is overrated?
https://youtu.be/8znvpBT5kV4 ( top 5 most overrated characters by genshin community) by Tenten
She still as strong as usual but rather not the best option (anymore) because we have alot of new characters who are similar or uses the same team but can do it (perform) better than her.
Speaking about Ganyu vs Ayaka (since many commenters on this page likely your’s too). I think genshin players in general has acknowledged that Ayaka is stronger and better in term of DPS. So It’s pointless if you still using that comparison in order to troll people that coming to this page
All pro Genshin players and serious theorycrafters agree that Ganyu is the strongest cryo dps and one of the two meta dps (the other is Raiden).
I have not seen any of them saying that but okay. You do you. Have a nice day
First of all… We dont need theory when we can play the game ourself…second…this guy zajef is just a biased person like you…at the end the result in the game speak for themself…and for your own knowledge…nobody use a freeze team against a boss when you cant freeze them…and dps wise ganyu is way better than ayaka in melt team…if we were talking about freeze ganyu maybe….but we talking about melt team…ayaka could beat ganyu if she could work in melt teams….for example i used ayaka with sunfire jean but even sunfire jean couldnt keep up to make ayaka burst melt at all of it ticks…but you can easily use ganyu CA to melt both of normal and bloom frostflake…also the reason ayaka is being used more is genshin players are mostly on mobile and on both mobile and playstation controller its har to aim so they go with a burst nuke like ayaka
Tenten, Zajef and other TCs from KQM are the person behind elemental gauge, quadratic scaling, multi-reaction combo/taser and ICD theories. They are reliable and has good credibility atleast way more trustworthy than any thoughts that you wrote on this page. They’re not biased, they are the ones that telling you how good Ganyu was during her shinning era
Sweet Paradice…I don’t even know who the hell they are…so don’t tell me they told you how good melt ganyu was…and ganyu shining era is to this day…okay?…they are still biased??
Finally got Ganyu C1 with Amos, WOW she is awesome like everyone says. Sad to put my C6 Ayaka on the bench but she is just too clunky and weak for the abyss.
Ranged freeze gameplay is your style. For some people, Ganyu is very strong, but awkward to play (especially on mobile). But if you’re C6 Ayaka is too weak for the Abyss, you’re definitely doing something wrong. lol
C6 Ayaka is too weak for the abyss lmao. Are you using her lvl 1 with lvl 1 dull blade, lvl 1 talents and no artifact? Good try troll.
C0 Ayaka with amenoma is MORE than enough for all of the abyss rotations from 2.0 except anti-freeze one
2 years has passed but this guy still doing his best to sell ganyu. Makes me wonder how long it gonna take to make him forget about slandering ayaka ?
This aged like milk
https://iili.io/Vkd794.jpg
melt ganyu is still setting highest records on par with raiden team.just go and watch 3.0 speedruns on yt
Is she still relevant???
of course, she’s still one of the best DPS in genshin, her DPS potential is so crazy with ~600% multiplayer damage. I just got her and build her and she deals 26k damage per charge shot. lvl 80, 4pc wanderer, prototype crescent r3 lvl 80, normal attack talent 7, no reaction.
Lv 89 4pc wanderer, EM sand piece, skyward harp, NA talent 10, bennett burst, zhongli shield, xiangling = 53k+90k melt damage per CA no food on lv90 raiden boss
Replace xiangling with kazuha, it becomes 70k+120k melt damage per CA, but it gets way too dank to play
I tried using prototype crescent with kazuha and adjust my artifck to compensate for the extremely high atk stat surplus, it becomes 65k+110k damage, which is just about less than 10% lower damage, but completely F2P.
My friend who owns hunter’s path bow does 80k+135k damage…. that’s eula burst final damage every 2s, 5 times per rotation. But despite ganyu’s melt damage, she’s still not the best hyper carry out there. My xq+yelan+zhongli homa hutao does 80k damage per CA, and does 8 to 9 CA per rotation while also doing a fk ton of dmg with xq+yelan and hutao’s own NA damage is not bad, ocassionally doing 25k-30k damage when not on ICD, that is despite my hutao still not having the best artifck due to me giving up on witch set but own an abundant amount of insanely good wanderer set with over 40% crit value per piece. I’m waiting for hutao rerun for her C1 so I can do 11 CA per rotation using dash cancel, effectively increasing team total DPS by over 25% to 37%.
No one wants her anymore tbh
what do you expect?
-dendro, which is the current fad, doesn’t need her
-Ayaka powercrept her ages ago
-Her venti comp is already long forgotten
-she doesn’t have good roles in the story other than be a background
-Most mobile players don’t like her
Just look at her sales. It was only kokomi who carried her because of her new found relevance with dendro.
Mihoyo put brought her when there was a drought of good units. That is that reason why she was still regarded as great. She is good, but she had already become replaceable now that there are far far better alternatives to her.
Freeze Ayaka > Freeze Ganyu
Childe International > Melt Ganyu
She’s just mediocre nowadays.
While she certainly isn’t the best in teams anymore, her large power in all teams, even as a support, means she is a master of all trades, which is still very valuable. Also, most people have a lot of good wanderer’s pieces. This makes her a very strong f2p option imo, as her versatility allows her to be much more flexible.
Freeze Ayaka < Freeze Ganyu, Freeze Ayaka has long dead time and doesn't work with Rifthound or continous spawn enemies
Childe International < Melt Ganyu, she has higher dps to single target
She's still a beast nowadays.
Your comparison to Ayaka and Ganyu against Rift Hounds is situational. Just because Ganyu excels in that specific scenario doesn’t maker her better overall. The same can be said about Ayaka in the areas where she excels. Against multiple waves of enemies, give Ayaka enough ER, slap Favonious weapons on her supports, and/or use Amenoma, and she can Burst off cooldown.
At this point, it’s just a competition of egos comparing two great characters that excel in different areas. Pick the one you like and suits you most (or use both to tackle various content) and get over it.
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^ Hi, troll. Always a pleasure. ^^
Not you but the person above you is high on copium
Oh, my mistake. lol I’m not sure what “copium” means entirely, but that person I replied to is definitely in some serious denial while grasping at straws.
melt ganyu is only second to raiden hypercarry dps wise…so your claim is bullshit as fuck
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which c is the raiden in ur context? c0? then ayaka would be in the negative spot
Melt Ganyu is just for nuking and it is highly overrated.
It was never been a good team due to its inconsistency and poor energy management. Unless you have C6 Ganyu, fast hands and godly aim like Aliss, it will never be a good thing. That is why most people still prefer national and international teams over melt Ganyu. It is easier and does more damage too. Melt Ganyu was also never had any place in top of meta teams
Sweet paradise it sounds like you can’t aim, l2play. Don’t talk about meta if you have no clue about meta.
Meta is most effective tactic available which makes melt ganyu instantly lose its credibility because it harder to play and very inconsistent
I agree that its harder to play…but its damage is absolutely better than freeze ayaka or any national team except raiden one…the fact that its harder to play is the reason its not as famous as other meta teams…. because most of genshin players are either lacking at playing the game or are mobile players that cant aim
Melt Ganyu in fact is inferior to national and international teams, freeze ayaka, double hydro or even mono geo in some condition
@Sweet Paradise Melt Ganyu has been on top of meta for 2 years are you blind. Just another bad player that cant aim and call the unit bad because of his own terrible aiming
Ganyu was a very meta unit back then. She is on the top of meta before Inazuma act introduced. She is on there not because of her melt team but rather she was there because of her morgana which is the strongest team around that time. But, it’s all changed when Inazuma is released. We have more bosses and enemies that are not pullabe with venti, making her morgana a little bit balanced. She also getting more and more competitors that are just as strong or even stronger than her.
Melt ganyu was not a thing not because it is not strong. It is very strong on its own but in the other side it is also very inconsistent, a little bit clucky to use, easy to get interrupted and bad at regaining energy. Making it struggle on repeating the rotation and end up losing some dps (this is why this team is only good for nuking). Melt Ganyu also shares the same support characters with national and international teams which technically a better option to use because they’re easier, better energy management, more damage and more consistent
@Sweet Paradise look…let me end this shit because its frustrating… damage wise melt ganyu is too strong…you don’t wanna admit its better that ayaka freeze thats on you…i don’t care…but dont talk about energy problem because with only 180 er on xiangling you’re ready to go…second…best team for raiden is hypercarry and it can be used without bennet with kazuha and yae and kujou sara or if you don’t have yae you can use xingque or yelan instead… xiangling is absolutely bad in raiden national because it’s reaction with electro make little enemy’s get shoot to oblivion…this make your benny and xiangling to be free for your melt ganyu or for any other team…period
I will admit if it was really better but in fact it is not. Many TCs has made a calculation on every teams that we had today and Melt Ganyu is always inferior, way more inferior even against her Morgana team. I have no idea how you made a conclusion but it seems like you have a mindset higher damage per screenshot is better than damage per second
And the way you theorize and making calc on melt Ganyu is surprising bad. It is sounds impossible you can do 5CA on single rotation without running out of buff because Ganyu’s CA is actually very slow (without her c6) and the fact you are using diona make it even more suspicious.
Sweet Paradice…its not theory dummy…i dont know why you people emphasize on theory when you can use it in abyss…5 ca is easily possible because her ca take 2.2 second but i bet you either dont own the character that make you instead go and use those stupid theorys or you have skill issue which means you dont shoot ca at the right time and its causes you to shoot your 5 ca out of benny ult…now go and do your theorys…Im done whith these nonsense
Ganyu’s CA actually takes about 1.8 seconds if you’re properly animation canceling, so in fact 6 CAs are doable during Bennett’s burst in traditional Meltyu. 5 is pretty reasonable and gives you some decent leeway. Getting only 4 off is the bare minimum and any less than that and you genuinely suck at the game.
I can’t help but notice that Ganyu’s loudest detractors invariably know nothing about playing her.
People are still comparing characters from gigachad c6r5 300cd 1000 runs youtube videos lol.
ganyu segs
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