1,706 responses to “Arlecchino”

1. People will pull for her and stop playing her after a week cause she’s not strong as the actual DPS characters in the game.

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   • “Trolls, I see trolls everywhere”

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2. Ppl think she is strong cause she has cool animations, but shes very similar to Yoimiya. Her dmg will not be high cause she has ICD.

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3. I see another Yoimiya sidegrade

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4. so, out of free-to-play polearms, we got what? White Tassel and Blackcliff?

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   • It depends on what you consider “free-to-play”.

     Dragon’s Bane, Kitain Cross Spear, Moonpiercer – all are good options for vape and burgeon teams.

     Missive Windspear (an event weapon) is fine if you have it.

     There are also Wavebreaker’s Fin and Prospector’s Drill, but those from gacha only.

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     • I got a Jade Spear and Homa I can steal from Hu Tao, are they good? I’m not summoning on the scam weapon banner anymore.

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       • I would go with Jade wing out of those two. she has C. dmg as her ascension stat so you may be lacking crit rate if you go with Homa. that might change if you have absolutely cracked artifacts for her though.

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5. she’s no.4, if they powerceep units how will be pierro?

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   • Considering n6 was weaker than no11 overall (yay for reactions) there’s no telling

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   • If she’s number 4, then Pierro has a ult that insta kills bosses lol

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6. -copium so called aoe
   -melee but 0 IR
   -can’t overheal herself
   >>can’t solo abyss at C0
   This shitty waifu for coomers will never match against Fontaine males, males just keep winning.

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   • Furina is female.

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     • C0 Furina can’t solo abyss like Lyney/Wrio/Neuvi tho
       Furina = shit waifu just like rest of them.

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       • Wriothesley can’t solo shit at C0
         Neuvi, Lyney and Arle are all capable solos at C0 but Wriothesley struggles to even keep his HP up

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       • Being able to solo abyss or not doesn’t define whether a character is good or not, you hack

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         • What kind of cope is this.
           Both Neuvi and Hu Tao need 180 pulls to get. One is Neuvi/flex/flex/flex and the other is stuck at Hu/Yelan/Furina/Xianyun (720 pulls), both clears abyss and somehow you coomers still denied Neuvi better than mid tao.
           As for Midrina, the only arguement you can bring is “SuPpOrTs bEtTeR tHaN sElFisH dPsEs” but what the point of support when the dps can do everything by himself already?
           Trio Fontaine males are the goats and better than whatever support or dps female can do. Because they can make the job done by themselves unlike those females.

   • Are you the same guy as before? how many times have you been hit on the head?
     -Said AoE is 10% more BoL (basically just 2 hits) and some decent Sweep attacks
     -0 IR is a shame but since her infusion isn’t time reliant dodging isn’t a huge deal
     -There’s plenty of defensive characters in the game if you can’t dodge sufficiently
     -Can’t solo abyss at C0 WITHOUT SKILL her kit in isolation is actually very powerful compared to more team reliant characters

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   • Just use shielder lol

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     • then it’s no longer a solo run
       Lyney/Wrio/Neuvi >>>>>>>> midsuck-leechino

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       • Please work on your names 0/10
         (also her solo dmg is on par with Lyney from what I can be bothered to calcaulate)

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   • again with no IL complaint. please explaiin why she need self-IR

     ・she can’t receive heal from other
     ・her self-heal is 15s cooldown
     ・she ATK scaling attacker. she has low HP by default unlike those HP scaling characters
     ・therefor, she can’t face-tank stuff like Raiden during burst
     ・for dodge error-proof it doesn’t matter if she get one-shot to dead anyway in spiral abyss
     ・it even worse with non-shield IR if enemy can do multiple-hit attack

     with all these conditions just simple give her shield. that’s it. just like you did with any other ATK melee attacker.
     really these 0 IR complaint make no sense to me. how could it help even ?

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7. Poor Hu Tao, was already overshadowed by Xiangling on release and since then she’s getting beaten like a dead horse by Lyney, Gaming, Arlecchino and it’s not even over yet as Pyro Archon and Sovereign are due release, poor funeral girl will be finally laid to rest in Natlan.

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   • Is the pyro sovereign leaked as playable? if not don’t count on it, since so far 3 sovereigns have been relegated to weekly bosses and 1 is drad

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     • 3? who?

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       • 1. Dvalin (Stormterror)
         2. Azhdaha
         3. Apep (Guardian of Apep’s Oasis)

         Although the first two are never explicitly called sovereigns, and the third is actually Apep’s “part”.

         The fourth is Orobashi, and he was killed by Raiden.

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         • That’s not actually true. Dvalin is a sovereign but Azhdaha isn’t and neither is Orobashi. The Orobashi were a species and Azhdaha is an ancient Geovishap.

         • Yes, Azhdaha is an ancient geovishap with a dragon heart; that is correct. 
           He is also the closest being (aside from Zhongli) to a geo-sovereign, which is why people often confuse him as one.

           In the case of Orobashi, there is a lot of uncertainty about whether he was a sovereign or not.

         • Only responding to the last part.

           Orobashi were a species, the one Raiden killed however was the last of their kind that went underground to escape the archon war. Howver many years later it sacrificed it’s self for it’s people. It isn’t anything major like a sovereign just another giant being that existed in the world. The Orobashi was ordered death by the HP for discovering the truth about the history of the world and the 7 sovereigns and finding out that the HP were not the rightful rulers of the world. Raiden didn’t even want to do it, they put on a show with Raiden giving the final strike and promised the Orobashi that she would watch over his people. To this day however they don’t know the truth and hate her for killing him.

         • 1, 2, and 4 are not.

         • Dvalin and Azhdaha aren’t even confirmed sovereigns.

           Orobashi wasn’t even a dragon, and he was ordered to die by the heavenly principles after he read some forbidden book or something.

         • Dvalin and Azhdaha aren’t even confirmed sovereigns.

           Orobashi wasn’t a dragon he was just a giant snake ordered to die by the heavenly principles after he read some forbidden book or something.

   • wym? hutaos still a top pyro unit and I’d put her above the rest of pyro units except gaming, she’s easily to build verstile but still isaine damage and passive helps with consistency plus she became stronger now with use of furina and cloud retainer and double hydro being changed allowing her at c0 to output more dmg then Lyney with the huge plunging dmg incorporate Into her combos and charged atk something lyney cant do and especially not fast or quick, this changes in my opinion once arlecchino comes out her dmg is values look insaine tho she won’t be able to utilize furina mutch and chevurse so she might not be completely overshadowing hutao until you get her cons or weapon, but that’s my take

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   • Poor Hu Tao got powercrept by a dude called Gaming

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8. Can someone confirm what the fiery wing sometimes shown on Arle’s back is? I thought it may be an indicator for her C6 but I’m not sure

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   • It seems to be an indicator for her 20s Blood-Debt Directive cooldown.

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     • You know, the wording of that thing sits wrong with me. “The maximum value of the Bond of Life she can be granted through this method within 20s after using her Elemental Skill is 80% of her Max HP.”

       The way it reads here to me is if even if i use another E skill after the CD is off, if i try to collect within the 20s that i last collected i won’t get anything if i’ve already gotten 80% the first time round… I hope i’m wrong here tho.

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       • I agree; it’s weird, to say the least. There is probably a mistranslation of some sort. 

         I made that assumption about the 20s cooldown because, in all the footage I saw, the wing appears after she uses a charge attack on the marked enemy, and then it stays as a “scarf” for 20s.
         Apparently, the big wing is a visual effect of her C2 (flare of Balemoon Bloodfire).

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       • And “Flare of Balemoon Bloodfire” (C2) also has a 10-second cooldown.

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   • from many leaks on reddit it seems to appeared only when her CA is able to reap Blood-Debt. regardless of BD level or gain pyro infusion.

     video sample:
     Arlecchino vs single hilichul from Kuroo : BoL not working so no pyro infusion / Arle use E then CA -> has wings
     Arlecchino vs multiple hilichul from Kuroo : same as above
     Arlecchino showcase via Mero : BoL working / Arle E then swap to Yelan Q then swap back to CA -> has wings + gain pyro infusion
     C0 arlecchino overload via kuroo : BoL working / Chev->Raiden->Bennett->Arle Q(already above 30%BoL) then she spam NA with pyro infusion on enemy with BD for awhile before CA them -> has wings

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     • *note on C0 arlecchino overload via kuroo
       video resolution was quite bad and when Arle perform CA, camera angle + damage numbers were in bad spot but you can see part/shape of wing from there but I’m not so sure because it might be just a part of her flame aoe. if that true then there is another possibility that wing is C2 effect when she does enhanced CA.

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   • Maybe it’s an indicator to her Pyro infusion stance?

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     • It was shown in her very first animation showcase with no I fusion active

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9. Where are they? still on the meeting with the flat earthers? maybe the idiots didn’t get paid last patch.

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   • I guess she’s not as easy of a target as Chiori. I’m looking forward to it tho

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     • She’s already had some doomposting tho
       However we must remain strong

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       • Just gotta remember they just dumb. c:

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         • You said it yourself a couple pages before, Hu Tao c0 > Arle c0 . Sometimes I don’t understand the mentality of Hoyo defenders. Stating truth = doompost for them.

         • In a perfect rotation vs shown calcs and with the stats atm yes that would seem to be the case.

           But we’re not talking about those posters, we’re talking about the idiots saying she’s just outright bad. When just because someone’s weaker than a very strong char that not many find fun to use it doesn’t mean she’s bad. She’s still going to be an awful lot more fun and far better at AoE than Hu Tao ever was not to mention she’s clear top 10 DPS in the game despite that.

           We’ve just also learned that the rotation Hu Tao beat is only 6.6s vs 9s as Arle’s C0 bufs end after just 2 normal attack rotations. As a result when i said C1 Hu Tao = C1 Arle it was actually wrong. Since C1 Arle does not end after just 2 normal attack rotations and can actually go for 6+ normal attack rotations which over doubles Arle C0 DPS over 18s. So after C1, Arle is way stronger than Hu Tao is.

10. I have never summoned for a Pyro Limited 5* on my main account and she’s still not gonna be the one. Summoned for Yoimiya on an F2P account back in the day and glad I didnt get her on my main account cause strict single targetness isnt that great and playing her alot leads to aching fingers due to clicking the normal attach button a lot.

    Now Arlecchino arrives and her animations look cool, but the whole Bond of Life and not being able to be healed thing irks me. I like my characters being able to be healed. But the most important thing is, Pyro nation is next up so the only way for Hoyo to sell a pyro character at this point during the dead patches is to make said pyro character a Fatui Harbinger and here it is.

    One can easily tell that there will be a new pyro DPS in Natlan who will work well with their pyro Archon and that would be the new meta team for pyro so theres rly not a point in summoning for Arlecchino unless you like the design/personality of the pixels. Her gameplay doesnt look game changing, compared to whenever a new Nation is released, gameplay does change (Dendro reactions – Sumeru, Energy issues – Inazuma, HP fluctuation – Fontaine, Grouping – Monstadt, Shielding – Liyue).

    Pyro archon and 5* pyro character of Natlan will be the power duo. This can already be seen in Hoyo’s pattern thus far (Raiden herself being the premiere electro DPS of Inazuma, Nahida + Alhaitham, Neuvi + Furina). They are the strongest combinations in their respective elements.

    Plus according to TC so far, Arlecchino is not as good as Hu Tao and Hu Tao even has less caveats in her gameplay

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    • Arle loses to Hu Tao on a C0 vs C0 basis over a huge 18s duration, but Arle gains far more from her consts at higher investments. C1 alone can take Arle from landing just 21 normals and losing her buff which is just 3 normal attack strings to literally NEVER losing it because her C1 is just that strong.

      Going from 100% to 30% at 5.5% of current Bol (Not max like was caled until now.) results in 21 hits. However if you take of 7 of those hits and gain 5% max Bol each time instead of losing, it results in a completely different experience. The obvious one is well you’re not losing 7 instances of the current % and instead gaining 7 of the max %.

      At 45% Bol each hit will take around 2.5% Bol while when you regain you regain 5%. This results in an average of maintaining around 45% Bol indefinitely. You’d literally have to be extremely unlucky to not gain any 5% Bol the 7 to 8 hits you have remaining.

      So just the C1 by it’s self, makes Arle significantly stronger in DPS. Going from 21 hits max to an unlimited number is absurd for a single const esp when it’s the 1st const. Hu is Tao.

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      • I read that C0 Arlecchino can reach +30 NA at C0 against multiple enemies . but out of curiosity , how long does 21 NA takes to execute ? if 21 NA takes around 10 – 12 sec + her Ultimate’s duration then I think 21 NA is more than enough because your supports buffs will run out and you will want to start a new rotation anyway , if takes less time, than yeah C1 will probably be huge for her

        but C1 Hutao is also big for her overall damage (especially for the average player)

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        • It takes 10 seconds. So depending on who you’re using you still have some time. But despite that, you don’t always need max buffs to finish off enemies ect ect.

          Also C1 does not just stop her from ever running out of Bol, it massively increases the DPS as it takes far longer. Like for example. At C0 you run out after 21 if you never refresh. However with C1 after 32 hits which is 50% more hits and takes 15 seconds to use, you still have 60% Bol active and you’re still hitting like a truck.

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          • That’s just the buffs from Bettet / Kazuha / Yelan / Furina / ZL / Nobleless / etc will end earlier and her damage will drop to zero.
            In theory, Chev buffs last long enough, but its strongest buffs are tied to being hired by Electro allies, so you still need to update Fischl/Yae/Beidou/etc and heal in order for any Chev buffs other than 40% Atk to work.

        • In an 18 sec rotation, arle usually get 9-11 sec field time. So she would get usually 18-22 hits or probably less during that time (No she can’t do 3 hits/sec it’s like 2). So her C1 is probably useless you want to extend your rotation in which case the external buffs would probably expire. The only thing her C1 does is getting that extra bond of life every third hit so her normal would do more damage overall. The only practical thing about the infusion extension would be is ifthe enemies are about to die you would not need to start the new rotation. Her C1 is nice but it’s not that big as you would think. All and all she and Hu Tao are comparable at C1, with Hu Tao being less restricted.

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          • Depends who you use. I prefer very long lasting buffs like from Zhongli and Raiden over shorter 12s buffs as i hate switching so often. I don’t have any issues with the game so idk why you’d need more.

            Arle even without buffs can do 30k normals on an average build, i really don’t understand how someone can view that as weak while others go around doing 30k plunges with Xiao soloing the content.

            My C6 Arle will be doing 45k up 30k in 15s doing a grand total of 32 attacks which over the duration averages out at 1.2b, Hu Tao could never. But yea i know you can’t compare C6 it’s not fair on average.

            It’s about 3.3 seconds for all 7 hits of her string. So for 21 hits it would take 10s yes. But her first 3 hits come out faster so i wasn’t really wrong, just didn’t see the full combo until after.

      • hoyo: everything is according to the plan $$$

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      • Excuse me, how did you get 21 normal attacks at C0? It should be 12 -13 going from 100% to 30% BoL. Additionally, Arle’s E-skill grants het 80% BoL max, which results in 9-10 attacks.

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        • It’s 21 attacks because it’s 5.5 reducing from CURRENT Bol. Meaning at 50% Bol you only lose 2.75% of your max not 5.5%.

          Her E can give 80%, but her wep can also give 25% and her ult can give 15% or 25% at C4.

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          • Well, if that’s what devs mean by “current BoL” then it’s a good thing.

          • “This will consume 5.5% of said current Bond of Life.”

        • The amount of BoL consumed is 5.5% of her current BoL, meaning each attack consume less than the previous and she ends up with 21 normals

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    • honestly agree with the first part. i think Arle is ok, but i simply like offield characters more, my current teams consist of only “sub-dps” units. Hope at least at Natlan we get any offield pyro character aside from year one Xiangling

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